I doubt you are. In soft snow the BG is pretty easy to and the best pow ski I have ever own. After you get some time on it let us know how the current gen skis. I love my asym BG.


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I think you have to live in state to do factory pickup. You may want to email them and ask.


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I haven’t rode the current BG but in general the BG is much more of a soft snow specific ski that really excels in sticky snow. Wildcat has a more forward mount feels less directional but outside the...

Looks like it to me. They have been saying it will be released soon for a while now.


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I 2nd the 50/50 layup. I have a the BG110 tour and it is great but a little light for resort chop.


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So I take it the new WD 108 is a good amount less ski than the OG


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Most likely be released after the season is over!


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Any insight on what next season’s lineup is going to look like or when it will be released?


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I have a BG 110 tour in 187. Great 3d snow ski. I skied it once on a groomer and wasn’t that crazy about it but fine in soft snow suck as corn even if it isn’t truly 3d snow. Let me k ow if you have...

I own both they are pretty different skis.

The billygoat is way looser and is much better in deeper snow. It is the best ski I have ever owned for PNW tree skiing. It is pretty stable in 3D snow...

I am sure someone has already posted about this but this is looong thread……anyone spent a season on the woodsman 110 and if so what are their thoughts on them.


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Where did you find this top sheet?


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Glad to see you are using them and like them.


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I am getting antsy on snow showing up.


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Have you heard how the new version should ski compared to the asym?


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I cannot wait to hear how the new goat compares to the old one.


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You may want to contact them and ask if you can buy a single ski.


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Iggy, are you going to do a podcast w blister this year?


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You know what else changed with the ski? Did they change the rocker, flex pattern, or mount point?


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If you decide to go wren 114, I have a used one for sale.


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After spending the last two days on the goats, I see why so many people on here love them. I will most likely be selling my wren 114s soon.


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Thanks. I am guessing it will be close to my old atomic automatic which was also a pintail.


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Just ordered a pair if billy goats for the first time. I know I need to ski very centered on hard snow but how much will I be able to get on the shovel on a pow day?


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That is exactly how I fell about my WD108. I never had a problem with it and it skis anything remotely soft very well.


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Anyone put much time on the new lighter cores? Can you tell any difference from the previous versions?


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I have been skiing a pair for about a year and they seem fine. My guess is it is the tune.


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I think so. I love my woodsman. I have a wren 114 and the woodsman 108. I think the woodsman is a better fit for skiing meadows and bachelor. It handles tight spots better and it is still plenty...

ON3p is probably going to time there 2020/2021 release with everyone getting their stimulus checks.


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Which shop is this so we can avoid it?


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The blister review of the woodsman is spot on.


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I have a pair of wood 108 in 187. Do you have any specific questions about them?


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You can also demo some of ON3Ps skis at evo.


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Yeah. Its easier to work into tighter turns and feels lot better in moguls. My wren isn’t bad in tighter terrain but it takes more work.


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The woodsman is my longest ski and it feel pretty maneuverable to me although my other skis are heavier skis w bigger turn radiuses and less tail rocker. If you like close to Portland you can demo...

I have a woodsman 108 in a 187 and love it. For reference I also own a bodacious in 186 and wren 114 in 184. The woodsman in 187 felt like the right length for me. The woodsman handles tight spaces...

I would note they were discounted to $550 on the ON3P website at the end of the season and were not selling very quickly. Thats when I picked my pair.


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Thanks for the info. I was interested in a tour wren 96 for skiing the volcanoes in the spring.

I am not in good enough shape to carry anything to wide or heavy. The 96 would also be nice whenever...

How much would a wren 96 in 179 length weigh with a tour core. Also is that something you make? I didn’t see it available on the custom ski builder online.


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The goat will float better than the bodacious but the bodacious handles hard snow much better.


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I haven’t spent time on the dynastar XXL so I cannot compare but I have skied the wren 108 ti. I didn’t have any problem with the tails washing out and I felt the overall edge grip was pretty good...

I was looking at the black wren custom and noticed on the site it said it is the stiffest ski you make. Is it stiffer both longitudinally and torsionally stiffer than the 108 ti?


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Thanks for the feedback. I have a pair of 114's and have been debating about picking up some 108's for more of a daily driver and tighter terrain.

How much overlap is there between the 108 and 114?

Its stiff but nothing crazy. It is damper than the wren 114 and 186 bodacious but it is also easier to ski. I took it through a few moguls and it didn't give me any problems. I didn't feel like it...

I skied the Wren 108 TI. It does have really good edge hold on hardpack and it is probably the most damp ski I have ever skied. The day I skied it, it snowed 3 inches on top of refrozen hardpark. It...

Which is your favorite Wren?

For someone that like the wren in a 184 and felt that was the right size for them would you recommend the woodsman in a 187?

The bibby has slightly less tip splay and a decent amount more tail slay. Not sure about where the rocker starts between the two.

Is the float any different from the non metal version?

I own the 184 bibby and have skied the 184 wren 114. The wren 114 is a much more stable ski than the bibby. The bibby is more maneuverable and a quicker ski but the wren 114 blows it out of the water...