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    BC quote 173s at 3450gr - so 1725 a ski. If...

    BC quote 173s at 3450gr - so 1725 a ski.

    If you pick a length on BC's site the technical information specified further down on the product page changes (mostly updates the weight) to reflect the...
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    Let's just agree to disagree here. :) We've...

    Let's just agree to disagree here. :)

    We've had different experiences where we both have tried either setup, so we are talking based on actual experience. Different users prioritize differently,...
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    Yeah, that was my thinking behind the R10+ATK...

    Yeah, that was my thinking behind the R10+ATK pair as well.

    In the end I ended up preferring BMT90s w/Vipecs to said R10 pair for touring by a long shot. Admittedly, I am quite light at 66kg w/o...
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    I used Contour's split 1st gen skins a lot last...

    I used Contour's split 1st gen skins a lot last season on everything from 90mm BMTs to Wunderstick118s. They are awesome. The first gen glue is not perfection, but at the price I got them for they...
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    There is no mrs Kapow, so who knows? :) Their...

    There is no mrs Kapow, so who knows? :)

    Their first user will be a friend of mine who is a really strong skier. We have gone back and forth regarding what ski she should get for close to a year...
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    Man, noticing this thread ended up being a costly...

    Man, noticing this thread ended up being a costly "mistake".

    I ended up getting some 172 MB115s and 168 MB96tis for the Princess quiver, both to be mounted with Meidjo 2.0 telemark bindings....
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    MHSP - nice!

    MHSP - nice!
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    I do not know if they ship across the pond, but...

    I do not know if they ship across the pond, but the good folks over at Sport Bittl have a pretty sensational deal for Mantra102s (all sizes) at 57% off:...
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    holy crap.

    holy crap.
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    my bad - I forgot to check from our friends at...

    my bad - I forgot to check from our friends at Braa, I see their pricing is pretty spectacular. Shit, she can probably get a pair and sell them on without much of a (if any) loss if they do not work...
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    It could be that BMT122s are a bit much ski for...

    It could be that BMT122s are a bit much ski for her (perhaps a bit long and big surface area), but at 80% off aka dirt cheap they could be more than worth a shot for a dedicated pow slayer. They...
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    I am surprised that not more comments have been...

    I am surprised that not more comments have been made since this nice little tidbit was posted yesterday but 1.79kg for 187 woods108tours is a mighty fine weight - good job Iggy&crew!
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    yeah - something along those lines was probably...

    yeah - something along those lines was probably what happened. Or me getting a bit back seat and then being surprised by tails that did not provide the amount of support that I was expecting. It is...
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    Yeah, I kinda wished they made a 183-4 version...

    Yeah, I kinda wished they made a 183-4 version aka a shrunken 188. The jump from 180 to 188 is a bit big for us smaller riders, where the 180 one is a tad bit smaller than I would ideally want for...
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    I've never skied that run on MVWs and centered...

    I've never skied that run on MVWs and centered does not equal backseat. Still, you are probably right wrt using MVWs on that specific run - it is probably not the best of ideas. And since the main...
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    I think you read a bit to much into those...

    I think you read a bit to much into those somewhat dramatically highlighted parts. :) Thanks for the input though - much appreciated.

    MVWs has been mentioned in touring ski thread and this thread...
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    hehe, yeah - that might very well be mr smooth :)...

    hehe, yeah - that might very well be mr smooth :)

    The MVW's quiver role is as a 50/50 ski. I am def not expecting it to ski like a 2000gr+ two sheets of metal ski. The sensation described above...
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    lift as in lift :) It was this weird sensation...

    lift as in lift :)

    It was this weird sensation that air got caught under the shovels that made the shovels (and thus the rest of thhe ski would follow) be forced upwards aka lift aka not stay on...
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    I've seen the Mantra V-Werks being mentioned...

    I've seen the Mantra V-Werks being mentioned several times in this thread, but only in passing. Since several mags in this thread have experience with the skis I am currently contemplating, I thought...
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    To be fair - I didn't really plan on getting a...

    To be fair - I didn't really plan on getting a new pair of BGs after selling my pair of 179s and pre-asym 184s. A combination of a new home resort, the killer graphic and wanting to put my money...
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    Agreed. Though both slay soft snow with aplomb,...

    Agreed. Though both slay soft snow with aplomb, BGs and Wren108s still ski quite a bit differently. In fact, they complement each other nicely. Want to drive through the shovels -> wrens. Want to ski...
  22. does anybody have any experience of mounting...

    does anybody have any experience of mounting Mantra VWs somewhere in the +1 to +2 range? I am contemplating remounting my pair of 178s at +1 to +2 to gain stability/prevent nose lift at speed on...
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    I have no idea if Fjellsport ships abroad -...

    I have no idea if Fjellsport ships abroad - Adrgha and I are both over here in Scandiland :)

    Last year Fjellsport sold both r12s and r14s, and a few other lighter weight ATKs, where the pricing...
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    They already carry ATK - they sold them last year...

    They already carry ATK - they sold them last year at least. I got two pairs of FR14s from them. I did not need 14s, but buying them was cheaper and easier than getting 12s + freeride spacers.

    12s...
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    I have not tried either Raider 12 2.0s or FR14...

    I have not tried either Raider 12 2.0s or FR14 with and without the freeride spacers, but I am somewhat impressed with them from a design standpoint. My initial thought was just to cut some plastic...
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    Thanks DarthMarkus - that was a quality post with...

    Thanks DarthMarkus - that was a quality post with a much wider utility than just understanding the Blizzards in question. Thank you for taking the time to go in depth :)
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    BMT90s are excellent skis. My pair - 177s...

    BMT90s are excellent skis. My pair - 177s w/Fritschi Vipec Blacks - completely blew me away last season and was one of the major suprises of the 2020 quiver consolidation project / season for me....
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    I would add Völkl BMT109s and Katana V Werks to...

    I would add Völkl BMT109s and Katana V Werks to the list as well.

    BMT109s if you want something looser and lighter, Katanas if you want something a bit more chargy (mount forward a bit is...
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    I am not sure if I really appreciated just how...

    I am not sure if I really appreciated just how awesome the new BG series graphics - here the BG Tours - are. I would really like to see the new line in person, because the depicted part of thhe BG...
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    ah, I can def understand how you would want the...

    ah, I can def understand how you would want the shorter length for touring.

    Yeah, just give Iggy/ON3P a call or chat with them - you won't know for sure until you ask. :)
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    Consider going custom - the length has already...

    Consider going custom - the length has already been developed, if for the old lay up, so on3p might very well make a 177 for you even if they don't offer them as stock - or consider sizing up....
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    I found the story behind the evolution of the...

    I found the story behind the evolution of the commander 98s and 108s to be very, very interesting. Thanks for the transparency and details Melee, and let's hope other Norwegian mythological creatures...
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    Blister seem to like R12s:...

    Blister seem to like R12s: https://blisterreview.com/gear-reviews/2020-2021-atk-raider-12-majesty-r12
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    Not new, but Salomon MTNs/Atomic Backlands are...

    Not new, but Salomon MTNs/Atomic Backlands are also very good bindings at a sensible price imho.
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    I will leave it to Iggy to give a firm yes or no,...

    I will leave it to Iggy to give a firm yes or no, their approach in years past has been "you want it we build it". I even asked if it was possible to get the matte, textured top sheets before they...
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    btw - if anybody is grappling with what top sheet...

    btw - if anybody is grappling with what top sheet to get on theirs customs, yet struggle to find all the previous stock graphics - then worry not, all stock ON3P graphics from 2011 through 2018 can...
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    Full Woodsman-line, BG108tours, BGtours and BGs...

    Full Woodsman-line, BG108tours, BGtours and BGs are live! Or, the graphics are - specs to follow in some cases.

    336532

    Unsurprisingly, BG108tours have the same dimensions as a Steeple108s, but...
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    Kartel/Jeffrey108s is one of ON3P best selling...

    Kartel/Jeffrey108s is one of ON3P best selling skis. Why would it be odd that some people would want a lighter version to tour with? Similarly, a lot of brands offer increasingly lighter skis in...
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    Snicker :) Yeah, I had not noticed some of the...

    Snicker :) Yeah, I had not noticed some of the bits that might potentially be a tad bit controversial to some individuals after I wrote that. ;)

    Text bits on the C&D top to bottom:
    - huge
    -...
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    Huge!

    Huge!
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    Jubilations - Iggy posted the 2021 C&D: 336172...

    Jubilations - Iggy posted the 2021 C&D:
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    The graphic is great as usual - gothic and skeletons, where the 189s are also offered in cat camo, black and midnight at stock pricing. Why anyone...
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    ah, my bad re 108 vs 116 - I need to learn how to...

    ah, my bad re 108 vs 116 - I need to learn how to read. :)

    I did not try my kartel108s at -2 before I sold them to get Woodsman108s, but was strongly considering trying before I took the plunge. ...
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    the quoted weight for Wildcat 184s an 190s are...

    the quoted weight for Wildcat 184s an 190s are up approx 130-140gr pr ski compared to what Evo quotes for the 2020 184s and 190s, so hopefully yes.

    Skis in the 2160gr range and 2270gr range...
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    yeah, the C98 and C108 look down right scary...

    yeah, the C98 and C108 look down right scary fast. The geo just screams speed. It will be very interesting to hear how they compare to Völkl Mantra 102s and Katana 108s - they seem designed for...
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    well fekk me - so much awesomeness! I hate to say...

    well fekk me - so much awesomeness! I hate to say it (as waiting has been a pain), but it has been more than worth the wait ;)

    oh my - w116 weights are up significantly through using the w108 core...
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    I tried to make a pair of Kartel/Jeffrey116s into...

    I tried to make a pair of Kartel/Jeffrey116s into Woodsman116s before the latter was introduced, and while the speed limit of my custom stiffer k116s is high and the skis are good, the added...
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    Excellent post - thanks for the insight! :)

    Excellent post - thanks for the insight! :)
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    Fischer Ranger 102 FR is supposedly a ski similar...

    Fischer Ranger 102 FR is supposedly a ski similar to what you are describing kc and most/all reviews are fairly glowing. They are supposed to be a bit more demanding than R10s, but still fairly...
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    if you like R9s chances are good that you will...

    if you like R9s chances are good that you will like the current R10s - they should ski pretty similarly, or more so than R10s and R11s anyway. The current R10 is a bit heavier than the one Jay P...
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    https://images.finncdn.no/dynamic/1280w/2020/7/ver...

    https://images.finncdn.no/dynamic/1280w/2020/7/vertical-0/24/8/185/742/918_199875267.png I think this graphic is pretty awesome :)
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