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  1. The biggest difference in these boots is the fact...

    The biggest difference in these boots is the fact that there is some overlap over the top of the foot. It really helps to reduce the amount of deformation an open throat shell experiences when...
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    No

    No
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    It definitely came up in conversation at our...

    It definitely came up in conversation at our meetings in Alta when we were testing some future designs for Rustler. Prolly not gonna happen for 23/24 but you never know.

    Also there is a...
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    Tomorrow is the date I promise…

    Tomorrow is the date I promise…
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    They should be shipping to shops this week.

    They should be shipping to shops this week.
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    Yes there is a full boot board… but that’s not...

    Yes there is a full boot board… but that’s not what I was referring to exactly.

    Weight is 960 and 990 for the two models.
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    How were those skis “whack” exactly? And are...

    How were those skis “whack” exactly?

    And are you saying the best selling ski in the United States ever, is all due to marketing?
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    One of the biggest differences between the...

    One of the biggest differences between the Cochise 106 and the OG is how the sidecut is laid out on the ski. This is why people might say the OG skis better on groomers than the present one.
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    From a material standpoint Rustler is more...

    From a material standpoint Rustler is more expensive to make than Gunsmoke/Peacemaker was. However when you sell 50x more it’s easy to justify.

    Prolly never see a re release of of either ski. ...
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    There’s something rather unique about the ZG Peak...

    There’s something rather unique about the ZG Peak that no other boot in this category has… more info Monday or Tuesday.

    Won’t be available until Fall.
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    The amount of concavity that’s present in...

    The amount of concavity that’s present in virtually all Rustlers does not affect performance in any way shape or form. How do I know? Cause I’ve tested it side by side with one ground completely...
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    Wow there’s some bad info here. Most skis that...

    Wow there’s some bad info here.

    Most skis that have rocker will have some sort of concavity in the tips and tails. It’s due to the fact that when these skis are run through the finish machinery...
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    From a brand standpoint these will never be sold,...

    From a brand standpoint these will never be sold, marketed, presented in any way as skis for inbounds skiing.

    Rustlers are perfect for 50/50 skis. Hustle is touring focused. If Rustler is too...
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    Neither Another touring focused option for...

    Neither

    Another touring focused option for folks wanting a different feel and function than ZeroG.
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    Lots Hustles will be available in multiple...

    Lots

    Hustles will be available in multiple sizes in 9/10/11 in 2-3 weeks.
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    The Rustler still exists. It’s has a new...

    The Rustler still exists. It’s has a new topsheet for next year. There are some new graphic version that will be in the market in the next 2-3 weeks.
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    These are the Rustler lower molds without DRT and...

    These are the Rustler lower molds without DRT and with a new lightweight Trueblend core that’s complete different than the Trueblend core in Brahma/Bonafide/BP.

    They are completely different skis...
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    These are a new ski not meant to replace anything.

    These are a new ski not meant to replace anything.
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    Similar to Rustler but starts with an H not an R…

    Similar to Rustler but starts with an H not an R…
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    Please do. I’m behind the bar 90% of the time so...

    Please do. I’m behind the bar 90% of the time so please mention you saw us on here.



    For anyone that cares. We opened in September. Partner has been a professional brewer for 9+ years,...
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    Thanks for the stoke man. That’s my brewery!

    Thanks for the stoke man. That’s my brewery!
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    I will neither confirm nor deny the existence of...

    I will neither confirm nor deny the existence of said boot…..
  23. You’re not gonna have much fun skiing ZeroG 95s...

    You’re not gonna have much fun skiing ZeroG 95s in bounds 70% of the time. They’re just too light to ski the variable conditions you find at a resort day in and day out.
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    Kristofferson is skiing Markers. Started at...

    Kristofferson is skiing Markers. Started at Soelden. Used them every race this year.
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    Hirscher started using the Marker EPS bindings in...

    Hirscher started using the Marker EPS bindings in 2014 (as well as the Marker piston plates). He grew up skiing Markers on his Blizzards until he switched to Atomic. Mikaela maybe used them the...
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    You can’t remove the bolts in the T drive piece...

    You can’t remove the bolts in the T drive piece to “tweak” the flex. You have to make the down cuts n the lower slightly bigger or deeper if you want to soften them a bit.

    Or

    You could swap...
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    NGT

    NGT
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    They are in no way shape or form stiff. Pretty...

    They are in no way shape or form stiff. Pretty soft torsionally and longitudinally. Not quite as soft as asym tip ones but still rather soft
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    Comparing brand new skis to skis that have many...

    Comparing brand new skis to skis that have many days on them is rather tough. The break in period is real thing and skis tend to relax a bit after some use.

    As has been covered the new Cochise...
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    I asked this in the fall and didn’t get too many...

    I asked this in the fall and didn’t get too many responses so I’ll ask again. For those that don’t like the R11s but like the Gunsmokes or simply like the Gunsmokes more than R11s, what is it about...
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    There is no “cheaping out” on hardware on...

    There is no “cheaping out” on hardware on anything. Everything used is to standard specs for ski boots. If you use a fresh #2 screwdriver and know what you’re doing you don’t even need the heat but...
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    It is the most badass loctite for a reason. ...

    It is the most badass loctite for a reason. Everyone loves screw removable shit on their boots until you’re in the middle of nowhere and those screws loosen and fall out..

    A heat gun or even a...
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    Based off the OG Spur/Bodacious Design (the...

    Based off the OG Spur/Bodacious Design (the tapered tip ones). No carbon in the tip and tail and a bit lighter. Sidewalls aren’t as thick either so they’re not as powerful on edge. They have a...
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    No way that boot is a “plug” boot. It’s probably...

    No way that boot is a “plug” boot. It’s probably full PU, and might be stiffer plastic, but it’s just injected in plastic of similar color to make it look like the new XT3. The cost of making a new...
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    The Rustler Core is a blend of Beach, Poplar,...

    The Rustler Core is a blend of Beach, Poplar, Bamboo, and Paulownia. The Paulownia is the center stringer in that core. It is reinforced with unidirectional carbon stringers over the center of the...
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    Completely understand the long term resort...

    Completely understand the long term resort durability part... do you understand the performance part?

    The cores of those skis are designed to hit target weight and performance goals not because...
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    Ain’t no balsa in that core You want a ski to...

    Ain’t no balsa in that core

    You want a ski to hit that weight... it won’t last forever. There are always compromises.
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    The glitter and pastel is throwing you off bro! ...

    The glitter and pastel is throwing you off bro!

    I don’t have the specs sheets from 19/20 but 20/21 they’re listed as the same target weight from the factory which means construction is the same. ...
  39. Boot heaters would be a much better option.

    Boot heaters would be a much better option.
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    “Race Stock” skis don’t necessarily use...

    “Race Stock” skis don’t necessarily use “hardwood” either... definitely not maple
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    Metal does not make skis stiff... damp and...

    Metal does not make skis stiff... damp and heavier yes, stiffer no...

    Pretty sure there’s not many skis made in Europe that use maple. It has more to do with the consistency of the grain I...
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    There was no “watered down” gen... if anything...

    There was no “watered down” gen... if anything the first gen was the easiest. The 2018 got carbon reinforcement in the tips and tails. For some reason people thought the carbon replaced the metal...
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    Literally the stiffest skis on the wall..

    Literally the stiffest skis on the wall..
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    100% not compete bullshit.. and most...

    100% not compete bullshit.. and most manufacturers have plenty of data to back it up
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    No not the same. Not crazy different but 20/21...

    No not the same. Not crazy different but 20/21 is more anatomical, lighter, a bit taller, and more wiggle room past the met heads.
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    There is no ski coming out of the Amer, Volkl,...

    There is no ski coming out of the Amer, Volkl, Fischer, Blizzard, Elan, Stockli, Head factory that cost more than $500 US that’s made with some sort of sub standard base material. I’m 99% positive...
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    90% of skiers have never flexed their boots and...

    90% of skiers have never flexed their boots and rearward support is more important than anything. But who cares, ignorance is bliss. 90% of skiers just want something warm and comfortable, that’s...
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    A few years ago UPS rates went through the roof...

    A few years ago UPS rates went through the roof when boxes got over a certain length. It’s insane now. They literally triple the rate for something of comparable weight that’s smaller in size.
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    The new Cochise 106 uses the same wood core as...

    The new Cochise 106 uses the same wood core as the Rustler 11. A lot of what we learned about tip and tail flex from Rustler was also applied to the new Cochise design.
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    192 Rustler 11 is not getting discontinued... no...

    192 Rustler 11 is not getting discontinued... no one ever said anything like that.
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