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    There are various plans, but a chunk of Bernie's...

    There are various plans, but a chunk of Bernie's costs are to help share technology with the developing world. Elizabeth Warren wants to create a a $1.5 trillion “Green Industrial Mobilization” of...
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    To those who say we can't afford to do anything...

    To those who say we can't afford to do anything about climate change, the Government Accountability Office has set the cost of the Wall Street bailout in 2008 at $16 trillion. Bernie's climate plan,...
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    Wattsupwiththat is a known Koch brothers paid...

    Wattsupwiththat is a known Koch brothers paid denier site. Good reference.
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    294243 "“Based on these results, I can more...

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    "“Based on these results, I can more confidently state that there is no technical or economic barrier to transitioning the entire world to 100 percent clean renewable energy with a stable...
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    Our house is on fire and the fire department can...

    Our house is on fire and the fire department can only send fire trucks, not drone firefighters. Might as well not bother. Let it burn.
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    This too is a lie. One of Ron's goals is to throw...

    This too is a lie. One of Ron's goals is to throw so much bullshit out there that we don't argue every point.

    There very definitely is consensus on how dangerous AGW is for society

    From the...
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    Ok, this global warming shit is getting out of hand...

    "With increasing specificity and speed, scientists have been able to tell us how much worse climate change made an extreme weather event. "


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    Funny thing is with the attention to climate...

    Funny thing is with the attention to climate these days I bet even Trump will come around and push an industry backed carbon tax before the election to show he is doing something on this issue. It...
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    It must suck to be Ron right now. For years the...

    It must suck to be Ron right now. For years the media didn't cover climate but now it is everywhere. It is pretty lonely to be a denier these days.

    Time Magazine is devoting their entire issue...
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    "Editorial: Climate change is already here. 2020...

    "Editorial: Climate change is already here. 2020 could be your last chance to stop an apocalypse"


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    What? Your fingers have so much cherry juice on...

    What? Your fingers have so much cherry juice on them it is hard to read your writing. I am glad to see you accept that the last five years globally have been the hottest on record however.

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    Cherry pick much? You are incredibly dishonest....

    Cherry pick much? You are incredibly dishonest. 2012 set the record for greatest melt in Greenland. 2019 came close to beating that record, and although it didn't, it continues the trend of the ice...
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    "Al Roker just got back from Greenland, and he’s...

    "Al Roker just got back from Greenland, and he’s horrified by what he saw there"


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    OF course none of this is true, but it does lead...

    OF course none of this is true, but it does lead me to a joke:

    2 aliens come down to earth 150 years from now. There is devastation everywhere, only a handful of humans are alive and they are...
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    September 5, 2019 "The world’s vast oceans,...

    September 5, 2019
    "The world’s vast oceans, glacial ice sheets and northern permafrost are poised to unleash disaster, including drought, floods, hunger and destruction, unless dramatic action is...
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    A very small percentage of meteorologists are...

    A very small percentage of meteorologists are actually trained climate scientists. And the stats have changed quite a bit and even meteorologists are coming around.
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    The dead horse is climate change denial. Stop...

    The dead horse is climate change denial. Stop beating it. Every stat and figure you present is wrong and a lie. Saying it over and over again does not make it true.
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    Ask Ron.

    Ask Ron.
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    I call BSL on this! :fm::yourock:

    I call BSL on this! :fm::yourock:
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    Just once when you have real data to back it up....

    Just once when you have real data to back it up. You have not done that yet, because you can't.

    How many times do I have to post that the 3% of dissenters have been shown to be making mistakes,...
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    Ok, this global warming shit is getting out of hand...

    Questioning the credibility of the IPCC is pretty funny. AR5 had over 2000 expert reviewers for just the first round of review. "The IPCC’s technical reports derive their credibility principally from...
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    Ok, this global warming shit is getting out of hand...

    "Clean energy has reached a tipping point: It’s now cheaper to build and use a combination of wind, solar, batteries, and other clean tech in the U.S. than to build most proposed natural gas plants....
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    Obviously you don't understand the science, and...

    Obviously you don't understand the science, and your struggles with this sentence demonstrate that.
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    Taalas comment that it is not going to be the end...

    Taalas comment that it is not going to be the end of the world rings true. Of course it isn't going to be the end of the world. The planet doesn't need saving, as it will exist long after we are...
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    More bullshit! In the article you link to, that...

    More bullshit! In the article you link to, that has been spun by climate deniers, Petteri Taalas says “Now, we should stay calm and ponder what is really the solution to this problem,” Taalas said....
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    Ron, where do you like to ride?

    Ron, where do you like to ride?
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    "Climate crisis is greatest ever threat to human...

    "Climate crisis is greatest ever threat to human rights, UN warns"

    "Rights chief Michelle Bachelet highlights role in civil wars
    "‘The world has never seen a threat to human rights of this...
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    So you're saying Ron has a chance. . . "Only...

    So you're saying Ron has a chance. . .

    "Only one-in-a-million chance global warming is not manmade, scientists say"
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    I posted those he other day but here it is again:...

    I posted those he other day but here it is again:


    ^^ the climate scientists on Twitter are furious about this article, saying Franzen gets the science wrong.

    Michael Mann:
    "Hey @NewYorker,...
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    Are you bi or something?

    Are you bi or something?
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    Or the science...

    Or the science...
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    Ron's mind cannot be changed. I still bet he is...

    Ron's mind cannot be changed. I still bet he is paid by one of the Koch Brothers organizations. Anyone who thinks they can change his mind is as crazy as he is.

    I post for everyone else reading...
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    Oh yes, I trust known Heartland Institute climate...

    Oh yes, I trust known Heartland Institute climate denier James Taylor over NASA any day. He's not even a scientist. You win.
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    "Those 3% of scientific papers that deny climate...

    "Those 3% of scientific papers that deny climate change? A review found them all flawed"



    https://qz.com/1069298/the-3-of-scientific-papers-that-deny-climate-change-are-all-flawed/
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    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

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    "No doubt left' about scientific consensus on...

    "No doubt left' about scientific consensus on global warming, say experts"



    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/24/scientific-consensus-on-humans-causing-global-warming-passes-99
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    "Do scientists agree on climate change? "Yes,...

    "Do scientists agree on climate change?
    "Yes, the vast majority of actively publishing climate scientists – 97 percent – agree that humans are causing global warming and climate change. Most of the...
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    I keep wondering when and how Cedar Creek condos...

    I keep wondering when and how Cedar Creek condos will be bought and knocked down for some sort of fancy hotel or building. How would a developer buy out every owner? But the L makes it seem likely.
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    ^^ the climate scientists on Twitter are furious...

    ^^ the climate scientists on Twitter are furious about this article, saying Franzen gets the science wrong.

    Michael Mann:
    "Hey @NewYorker, I fixed the headline for you:
    "What if we stopped...
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    “Any scientist who could soundly demonstrate that...

    “Any scientist who could soundly demonstrate that Earth is not warming [because of human activity] would become an instant science celebrity.” -@MichaelEMann
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    Even this is not true, of course. Where is your...

    Even this is not true, of course. Where is your source for this?

    "UK Government energy generation statistics show rise in renewables"...
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    Good try, but wrong. I sent an article about...

    Good try, but wrong. I sent an article about Scotland. You brought up the UK, not me.

    More lies. How much do you get paid for this?
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    Once again you are lying. The UK, with the help...

    Once again you are lying. The UK, with the help of Scotland's wind, went 7 days without using coal. The UK is more than Scotland.
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    This is laughable. Thanks for making the point...

    This is laughable. Thanks for making the point that every location has different options available to it - whether that is hydro, wind, solar, geothermal, or whatever, and the energy mix will be...
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    "Iceland: A 100% renewables example in the modern...

    "Iceland: A 100% renewables example in the modern era"
    https://reneweconomy.com.au/iceland-a-100-renewables-example-in-the-modern-era-56428/

    "11 COUNTRIES LEADING THE CHARGE ON RENEWABLE ENERGY"...
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    https://youtu.be/VmT9EFWzcN4

    https://youtu.be/VmT9EFWzcN4
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    Please don't just accept RJ's basic point that...

    Please don't just accept RJ's basic point that 100% renewables is not possible, or that it is too expensive. That, too, is untrue.

    Large scale wind is cheaper than natural gas (what is unnatural...
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    Technology problems. Wind probably stopped...

    Technology problems. Wind probably stopped blowing. :the_finge
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    Surely RJ will have a lie to counter this. It...

    Surely RJ will have a lie to counter this. It will be either some false data showing how this is wrong or some claim attacking the source. He would find a way to argue that yellow isn't yellow if it...
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    True dat. I tilted at this windmill for a while,...

    True dat. I tilted at this windmill for a while, but now mostly just share climate information for others to view.
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