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  1. Thread: White Rim Advice

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    Just got back. More of a driving trip than a...

    Just got back. More of a driving trip than a biking trip, 8 people in 3 cars with only 2 nights on the rim. It was a blast. I did learn that 50 miles is too much to drive in a day, oof.
  2. Thread: White Rim Advice

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    I've never aired down. :shrug:

    I've never aired down. :shrug:
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    Some in my group once camped down this side road,...

    Some in my group once camped down this side road, right near the start of the mineral bottom descent: https://maps.app.goo.gl/uwihQV2GZdkRVSbw9

    Pretty decent, and a few options, no idea how likely...
  4. Thread: White Rim Advice

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    I've done it 3 times with my 1up, and will be...

    I've done it 3 times with my 1up, and will be doing it a 4th time in 3 weeks. No issues.
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    Just found out that this is happening during my...

    Just found out that this is happening during my trip: https://stateparks.utah.gov/activities/dark-sky/annular-solar-eclipse-october-14-2023/

    That should be cool AF.
  6. Thread: White Rim Advice

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    Hardscrabble and Airport. So the day would...

    Hardscrabble and Airport. So the day would include the Hardscrabble and Murphy climbs (though I will be driving my truck for those).
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    I prefer the booze cruise method. And the...

    I prefer the booze cruise method. And the distance between our 2 campsites is 50 miles, which is way more than I would enjoy biking. But will just do a different kind of trip, probably a much smaller...
  8. Thread: White Rim Advice

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    Anyone get a permit for the Fall? I got one,...

    Anyone get a permit for the Fall?

    I got one, but not what I was looking for, tried to get 3 nights but could only get 2. The system is annoying AF because it will show the available sites, you...
  9. Thread: White Rim Advice

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    That's about 10 times the cost of a...

    That's about 10 times the cost of a self-supported trip.

    And call me weird, but I like the driving. I mean, I like the biking too but I have driven Murphy and Hardscrabble every time I have done...
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    I practiced too, as best I could, but I guess in...

    I practiced too, as best I could, but I guess in my practice I didn't see that picking a night makes all the nights before it disappear.

    Personally, I was able to get what I wanted more or less in...
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    So, all the Fall dates were just released this...

    So, all the Fall dates were just released this morning. Was trying to get a permit for middle of October, 3 nights. Within seconds everything was gone, I am not even sure how one could have clicked...
  12. Thread: White Rim Advice

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    have you done one with your kids before? We've...

    have you done one with your kids before? We've been planning on (or talking about would be more accurate) the next one being a kiddo trip, but that is new territory for us. Kiddo will be 10, decent...
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    I don't know for sure, all I know is that the...

    I don't know for sure, all I know is that the Fall dates (what I am interested in) come out May 10.
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    So I did some researching. Looks like they will...

    So I did some researching. Looks like they will be releasing in 3 month blocks, all at the same time/date, 8am MT. The previous system was annoying AF because you had to stay up till midnight on 3...
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    Looks like they changed the permit system for...

    Looks like they changed the permit system for this upcoming year. Anyone got the lowdown on the new system?
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    those videos make it look more mellow than it is....

    those videos make it look more mellow than it is. and as noted above, conditions are different year to year. If we had taken a Subaru in the last time I was there (which again, is against the...
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    If it's something you would consider taking on a...

    If it's something you would consider taking on a generally mellow but very real 4wd road, then it is likely fine.

    That said, as Jummo just mentioned, conditions can vary a lot. And the vehicles...
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    If my goal was to ride 100 miles, you'd be...

    If my goal was to ride 100 miles, you'd be correct.

    If my goal was to ride and camp and recreate for 3-4 days in some of the most beautiful terrain there is, then you are, what's that word? Oh,...
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    Also, buy this book, it's cheap and very...

    Also, buy this book, it's cheap and very informative: https://shop.cnha.org/products/a-naturalists-guide-to-the-white-rim-trail
  20. Thread: White Rim Advice

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    The Fort Bottom side hike is a must do, IMO.

    The Fort Bottom side hike is a must do, IMO.
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    I've done it 3 times, and done both directions. ...

    I've done it 3 times, and done both directions. I assumed the way we did it is a given, but given this:


    it has to be said. One hudgely important piece of advice is don't do this. Do. a. car....
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    It all depends on how much you like your Subaru....

    It all depends on how much you like your Subaru. ;)

    In case it isn't clear, I'm not suggesting anyone try that (and you're not allowed to, 4wd with low range is required). Just meant to point out...
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    It's mostly just dirt road, but there are a few...

    It's mostly just dirt road, but there are a few short sections that are legit four wheeling, as in a large majority of the people in our groups did not feel comfortable driving those sections. But...
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    By the way, if you've never done a multi day raft...

    By the way, if you've never done a multi day raft trip, that means that serious advanced planning is needed.
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    Needs to be a legit 4wd vehicle, with a low, but...

    Needs to be a legit 4wd vehicle, with a low, but stock is fine.

    I've done it 3 times, with 12-15 people and 3 cars over 4 days. As was said, it's like a raft trip on wheels. Happy to answer...
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