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    maybe try a combo of gaffers tape and food-grade...

    maybe try a combo of gaffers tape and food-grade silicone or teflon spray (on the back of the liner). less invasive than making cuts and no damage done if it doesn't work.
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    i just wear them for a few days on the hill and...

    i just wear them for a few days on the hill and they're good.

    otherwise, hot rice sock method is probably what you want.

    i don't bother with the shell at all whatever the old man says.
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    Did you do a shell fit and if so how much space...

    Did you do a shell fit and if so how much space was there behind your heel? Therein lies the answer.
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    Bootorials guy addresses this exact scenario. ...

    Bootorials guy addresses this exact scenario.

    Unfortunately, this forum won't let me post the link to the vid.

    So...google "Stretching liners - Bootorials Ep. 29" and start at 1:15.
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