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    One Fucked up Situation

    Currently 4 dead on board, 138 sick, and nowhere to go. They were heading for Ft Lauderdale but Panama won't let them through the canal. It's easy to say "Why the fuck would you take cruise now?"...
  2. This is from yesterdays' EDCSO facebook. They may...

    This is from yesterdays' EDCSO facebook. They may emphasize it again tomorrow after today's incident. good news, they didn't mention mountain biking.
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    All week? hmmm. Sadly that and the truth don't...

    All week? hmmm. Sadly that and the truth don't jibe. The bill passed the senate late Wednesday night. Pelosi, who I assume you are aware is not actually in the Senate, was instrumental in getting the...
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    I'm not saying it's not real, but when I look at...

    I'm not saying it's not real, but when I look at that website all of the 'it's not real' alarms are going off.
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    where do you see 'today' numbers down???...

    where do you see 'today' numbers down???
    Nowhere. And all the John Burch Murdoch graphs are going to look worse tomorrow. and the lake is starting to fill with lily pads
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    we shall see. we do seem to be going headlong...

    we shall see. we do seem to be going headlong into tragedy. I would not be surprised if our death total tops 400 today. Should be another large addition from New York as well as smaller from Cali,...
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    but his emphasis was on nationwide all at the...

    but his emphasis was on nationwide all at the same time. the time frame was 6 to 10 weeks. So maybe they're just hoping it's 6. His timeframe also depended on changes happening that have not, and...
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    Seems kind of strange given Bill Gates is...

    Seems kind of strange given Bill Gates is advocating for a nationwide lockdown for up to 10 weeks.
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    True. I mentioned that on Tuesday, but since then...

    True. I mentioned that on Tuesday, but since then all the small towns have filled in on the east, but not so much on the west coast where things have been on lockdown longer (if at all)
  10. i would assume they will be at least 'asking'...

    i would assume they will be at least 'asking' people to not go mountain biking by then anywhere within a 40 minute drive
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    more than likely both on both coasts. but there...

    more than likely both on both coasts. but there is no doubt more travel from China/Asia to the west coast and more travel from Europe to the east coast, especially when stopovers must be factored in....
  12. SAR and emergency vehicles there too apparently.

    SAR and emergency vehicles there too apparently.
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    looking at the nytimes map this morning there...

    looking at the nytimes map this morning there seems to be an east vs west thing showing up.
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html
  14. the difference is when we ski/bike etc. we aren't...

    the difference is when we ski/bike etc. we aren't indirectly or statistically putting some guy in a grocery at risk. just ourselves. so it's a different kind of risk altogether IMO.
  15. just to add one more element. current reports of...

    just to add one more element. current reports of a heli hovering for long periods over powderhouse
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    and today looks to go well over 300 deaths* here...

    and today looks to go well over 300 deaths* here which will be yet another roughly 33% gain. Every day it happens the likelihood of us reaching 10k deaths/day by easter becomes more likely.
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    ya know these are viruses right?

    ya know these are viruses right?
  18. I don't think there's anything wrong with someone...

    I don't think there's anything wrong with someone driving from the keys to a trailhead or calbase. Riding a bike there would be the most dangerous part of your day. And skiing doesn't have to be...
  19. Why does it bother you when they go ski? There is...

    Why does it bother you when they go ski? There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Anything that keeps people sane is good. Travelling any kind of unnecessary distance to do it changes things IMO....
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    and the $88k is based on 'stays longer than 96...

    and the $88k is based on 'stays longer than 96 hours' when the ventilator support needed typically requires much more than that for covid cases.
  21. just to be clear, i'm not talking about folks...

    just to be clear, i'm not talking about folks heading to nearby trailheads or passes, but Kirkwood is a separate community.
  22. this. there is snow here in Tahoe. Right outside...

    this. there is snow here in Tahoe. Right outside my back door. Not everyone has that luxury but noone here needs to drive to Kirkwood unless you're okay with folks from Santa Clara driving up here....
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    I am a bit unsure of what they did but the more...

    I am a bit unsure of what they did but the more unsettling thing was that they seemed unsure of what they did. Or the intensivist was more like, "It's kind of fucked up that we had to do it this way,...
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    soooo, i'm not sure how this works. my mom has...

    soooo, i'm not sure how this works. my mom has not been doing well, in Sacramento. She lives with my brother. She's 80 and in poor health, but has been deteriorating quickly over the last three days...
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    earlier there was a discussion about whether we...

    earlier there was a discussion about whether we were splitting ventilators. we are...
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    back on page 50, I surmised they would use cell...

    back on page 50, I surmised they would use cell phone tracking to define proximity contacts. Meaning you can trace an infected person's phone tracking history to see what other phones it was in a...
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    USA temporarily takes the case lead over Italy

    USA temporarily takes the case lead over Italy
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    it's endemic to the human population now. It...

    it's endemic to the human population now. It isn't going away without a vaccine
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    Circle back to us? How are we any less threat to...

    Circle back to us? How are we any less threat to them than they are to us? It's not going away here
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    Keep watching the german data though. I can't...

    Keep watching the german data though. I can't help but think they are just lagging behind. And the fatalities appear to be starting the exponential rise.
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    Where does that come from? It doesn't jibe with...

    Where does that come from? It doesn't jibe with the info on worldometers, although it could just have to do with the time of day they reset.
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    Dammit pretty sure I placed an order...

    Dammit pretty sure I placed an order simultaneously to the stimulus being announced.
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    yeah but they were still working and weren't...

    yeah but they were still working and weren't locked down then, there was just a ban on large gatherings. they didn't just ignore it, they flaunted it. and endangered thousands
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    not sure if this was posted back when it...

    not sure if this was posted back when it happened, but when you look at this, and what is currently happening now in Louisiana, Newsom and Sisolak are looking pretty smart. Trump not so much....
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    Hang in there. And IMO the next disaster is...

    Hang in there.

    And IMO the next disaster is currently unfolding in New Orleans.
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    you can't read it correctly. the case data can't...

    you can't read it correctly. the case data can't be used to compare because of the way testing is done or not done. It's apples and oranges. You have to look at the mortality. And if you look at that...
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    meh. it's not like it was ever gonna be anything...

    meh. it's not like it was ever gonna be anything except a kick in the ass to the senate. the digital currency was interesting though.
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    google john burn murdoch

    google john burn murdoch
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    Damn. i never gave your username much thought...

    Damn. i never gave your username much thought until just now. Makes me laugh thinking.

    And on that note, about a week ago KQ was starting to panic and I wanted to post this as a joke at the time...
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    it seems like it but i think we are seeing the...

    it seems like it but i think we are seeing the results of early testing, which should significantly flatten the curve. However, I think another part of the early testing is they found cases before...
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    which is also a possibility. restrict it's use to...

    which is also a possibility. restrict it's use to health care workers and probably some others
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    that doubling rate of the deaths is what i've...

    that doubling rate of the deaths is what i've been harping on, since the testing is unreliable (for statistical measuring at this point).

    and it's slightly more than doubling every three days (or...
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    Your previous statements have left you with a...

    Your previous statements have left you with a complete lack of credibility. That statement didn't help.
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    or like me, you'll realize the joys of not taking...

    or like me, you'll realize the joys of not taking the work home, and go back to being one of the people you sometimes felt you were babysitting. but if you want to continue to run a day care of...
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    yeah it doesn't really matter what he says today....

    yeah it doesn't really matter what he says today. the bodies are gonna pile up fast it seems. since the 3/13, the number of new dead has more than doubled every 3 days. IF that keeps up we will be...
  46. is that a duck tied to her pole? And Why?

    is that a duck tied to her pole? And
    Why?
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    Yeah, between NV going to delivery only and fears...

    Yeah, between NV going to delivery only and fears of stuff like this in the future I bought 6g (thc) of butter yesterday. Also got a card so if just goes to that, which I think is likely, I'll be set...
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    aha, so, #poundthehammerdothedance sounds good

    aha, so, #poundthehammerdothedance sounds good
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    Already at yesterdays death total, and Washington...

    Already at yesterdays death total, and Washington hasn't added any yet. We 'could' hit 150 today.
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    it's too soon to say Italy is peaking. also...

    it's too soon to say Italy is peaking. also consider we have 330 million people with many more large outbreaks than Italy as well as many more areas yet to break out.

    It's not 'Mission...
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