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    I wouldn't plan on either of those being...

    I wouldn't plan on either of those being reliable. Time to time people get away with it, but a truck camper with a family usually gonna get moved out. Plus do you like your kids being woken up at 5am...
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    :frown::frown::frown::frown::frown: It's...

    :frown::frown::frown::frown::frown:

    It's perfect. Why can't we have such nice things in the US of god damn A.
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    Cool. Boxes are nice from a build out...

    Cool. Boxes are nice from a build out perspective.

    And welcome to TGR Evo. You've facilitated a lot of gearwhoring on this site.

    Alternate subject:
    I got a internet spot I'll be keeping...
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    I wasn't aware that they ever made a diesel...

    I wasn't aware that they ever made a diesel version of the express. Let alone one w/ AWD.
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    4x4, 6" lift, high top, built #vanlife isn't...

    4x4, 6" lift, high top, built #vanlife isn't cheap.

    #AstroVanLife certainly is.
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    I'm only on my 2nd vehicle. After 3 years with it...

    I'm only on my 2nd vehicle. After 3 years with it I'm down to $53 a night. Not including maintenance costs associated with its use as a regular ski-hill / mtb / adventure commuter.

    Is it as nice...
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    Sick.

    Sick.
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    Fuckin' A that's cherry. Luckily not in the...

    Fuckin' A that's cherry. Luckily not in the market. If I lived in the PNW where not being stealthy was okay, I'd be tempted to cash out on my van ASAP.

    We had the same gen Rodeo. Thing would...
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    This is everything. Spacious. Rad lift and 4x4....

    This is everything. Spacious. Rad lift and 4x4. And likely full of shag carpet soaked in bong water and puss juice.
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    As someone with a lifted AWD Astro with...

    As someone with a lifted AWD Astro with snow-rated AT tires....

    This is 99% true.

    I've had a few moments in the past couple years when AWD was necessary. But that's mostly because I was doing...
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    You may be thinking of a transit connect which is...

    You may be thinking of a transit connect which is the small version.

    The Transit comes in multiple wheelbases and multiple roof heights. The big'ems are as big as the biggest sprinters.
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    High roof is a game changer. You can build your...

    High roof is a game changer. You can build your bed up high and store skis/mtn bikes underneath. Plus you can STAND! when cooking or putting on clothes which makes all the difference in the world.
    ...
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    Yeah -- I'm having a hard time understanding why...

    Yeah -- I'm having a hard time understanding why you do a quigley conversion on these if not to make it into a camper.

    Good looking vehicle. But besides long-standing brand preference I'm not...
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    I can only imagine the sort of TGR fan-girl...

    I can only imagine the sort of TGR fan-girl orgies that this thing would house. It's the sort of place that would only allow coke. No meth.

    DigitalDeath's Mom would probably be the Mistress.
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    Vans, esp AWD/4x4 or at least Fire-Road capable...

    Vans, esp AWD/4x4 or at least Fire-Road capable seem to be fetching big premiums compared to similarly equipped trucks or SUVs. In my experience that's partially cache, and also because vans are just...
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    That is a fucking rad van @MiCol. Certainly...

    That is a fucking rad van @MiCol. Certainly worthy of a build and maybe a Ujoint 4x4 conversion.
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    As a "Front Range poseur" with a white, AWD,...

    As a "Front Range poseur" with a white, AWD, lifted Astro camping van I'm quite happy about this development. Even the lonely cougars in A$pen loved hearing about our van camping last weekend.
    ...
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    That's cause lifted Astros are rad. Mine...

    That's cause lifted Astros are rad.

    Mine misses the snow.

    http://i.imgur.com/p5g66Xd.jpg
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    That thread is about going from RWD to AWD. ...

    That thread is about going from RWD to AWD.

    The van above is an AWD converted to a 4x4. In the case of the later, its basically a t-case swap from an S10 or Blazer and engineering a shifter. I've...
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    Luckily I have a van with windows that pop out....

    Luckily I have a van with windows that pop out. And am not ballsy enough to sleep with my propane on (I just turn it off and get in a 0 degree bag with a bottle of whiskey, turn it on in morning.)
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    Good beta, thanks. Mostly my buddy's project but...

    Good beta, thanks. Mostly my buddy's project but I'll be lending a hand where I can. Its a bit more spacious for hanging out post ski/skin than my camper van in winter.

    Its an old Scamper. Not...
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    Well my friend got into the camper game in the...

    Well my friend got into the camper game in the dirtiest way possible. This is going to to be an interesting experiment. This evening we replaced numerous wood bits from the original 1988 frame. It...
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    Search JONG. There are tons of threads. Like:...

    Search JONG. There are tons of threads. Like: https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/170106-The-Comprehensive-Car-Camper-RV-Overnight-Camping-Locale-Thread

    tl;dr: Most resorts don't...
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    Great thoughts all -- appreciate it. Probably...

    Great thoughts all -- appreciate it. Probably look for something a bit shorter than 8'. There will be 3 max sleeping during the winter -- not for extended periods either (2-3 day outtings at MCP...
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    Great beta. Thanks. All are new to this. His 1500...

    Great beta. Thanks. All are new to this. His 1500 has the upgrade spring and shock package which means he'll still need to be lightweight but should ride okay. He's thinking softop, no toilet etc,...
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    My MCP partner just bought a Silverado and needs...

    My MCP partner just bought a Silverado and needs a slide in for our winter adventures. My AWD camper van is about to regulated to 2nd most comfy setup.

    Crew cab 1500, which i believe means 5'9"...
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    You'll be fine assuming you're not trying to...

    You'll be fine assuming you're not trying to wander up Forest Service roads in the middle of winter. The biggest downside to FWD (compared to RWD, not 4x4) is it is a less ideal design for towing.
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    Great summary of CCV experiences. Personally...

    Great summary of CCV experiences.

    Personally if I needed to sleep/haul a family of 4, a crew cab truck w/ a slide-in makes way more sense and is more budget friendly than a van setup. And this...
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    Nice Previa's. The dude in the 2nd ad is the...

    Nice Previa's. The dude in the 2nd ad is the fellow I talked to win I was looking for one. He really knew the vehicles inside and out (only thing he sells).
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    Oh, and KBB doesn't mean shit for sale price of...

    Oh, and KBB doesn't mean shit for sale price of AWD vans in the Front Range. Expect to pay a premium unless you're willing to go get your van somewhere else.
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    I made same decision (Previa vs Astro) in the...

    I made same decision (Previa vs Astro) in the same market (Front Range) as you this past spring. Previa's are a good option, just don't get in an accident as their crash rating is horrible. They also...
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    Astro 4x4 Tiger. Fucking tits. If I didn't have a...

    Astro 4x4 Tiger. Fucking tits. If I didn't have a lifted AWD 2001 it'd e mighty tempting.
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    Prices on any camper-equipped van are insane, esp...

    Prices on any camper-equipped van are insane, esp in the Denver area. But doing it yourself is typically just as pricey (and finish hard to match a factory.)

    I can't believe there isn't a market...
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    Man was this a good weekend to sleep near a ski...

    Man was this a good weekend to sleep near a ski hill in CO. Loveland got 29-35" out of the storm depending on who you ask.

    Friday evening pulled in here. When I left in the morning there was...
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    Not in the parking lot.... But camped with my...

    Not in the parking lot....

    But camped with my buddies last weekend

    https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/t31.0-8/q82/s2048x2048/12719180_10100806730522390_2714546105086548316_o.jpg
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    Yep that's basically what it comes down to. To...

    Yep that's basically what it comes down to. To get interior layout/build quality of the Westie is pricey. Recreating something like it on the Astro platform will run you 3-5K for a decent van to...
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    Nostalgia yes. But I think you're...

    Nostalgia yes.

    But I think you're underselling some of Westie's pros. They have the best interior layout ever designed. One that is mimicked by basically every other van outfitter. They have a...
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    Thanks -- my buddies have already dubbed it...

    Thanks -- my buddies have already dubbed it "Storm."

    Bootin' up in a van with seat swivels is pretty luxurious....

    http://i.imgur.com/GrKOtKv.jpg

    First day at the Luv
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    Seller was a bit smarter than that. There is...

    Seller was a bit smarter than that. There is rubber dampening in places and marine carpet lining in a good bit of it. It's pretty clever given the lockers are bomber and cost him next to nothing.
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    Snapped a photo of the seller's new project this...

    Snapped a photo of the seller's new project this morning when I road over to pick up my old car.

    http://i.imgur.com/emdV0xf.jpg
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    I took a semi-justified sick day to make it...

    I took a semi-justified sick day to make it happen. (Every adult got norovirus on the Crusty Butt trip last weekend thanks to an infant.)

    New build is rad. Same basic platform, but bigger: Express...
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    I now own two Astros.... ...

    I now own two Astros....

    http://i.imgur.com/16Qtj1r.jpg
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    Please don't scoop me on this. Headed to check it...

    Please don't scoop me on this. Headed to check it out in a few hours to replace my dying astro.
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    Yep, sounds like a great truck and dude. ...

    Yep, sounds like a great truck and dude.

    Currently arguing with the SO whether we need to have more than 2 legal seats in our mountain vehicle.
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    Does your buddy do mag discounts? I already...

    Does your buddy do mag discounts? I already emailed him to get mileage and some other info....
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    If I had the mechanical aptitude to keep it up I...

    If I had the mechanical aptitude to keep it up I would be all over it.

    Currently hounding Denver CL for an AWD or otherwise well-equipped van to replace my Astro which died coming home from...
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    Thats a nice lookin' rig. Way classier than...

    Thats a nice lookin' rig.

    Way classier than my POS Astro that is usually in that lot. I'll bring the whiskey.
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    I'm in much the same boat as you North --...

    I'm in much the same boat as you North -- although I'm the platform I'm on (AWD Astro) has less body length issues. I've currently squeezed in some 235/70/15 snow tires but tire clearance is...
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    Nice looking rig -- probably in good shape too if...

    Nice looking rig -- probably in good shape too if it was just a flower hauler.

    As for the tires, I've got 235/70/15s on my stock alloys. Front wheels do get a tiny bit of rub when steering is...
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    Nice choice! Did you find it locally here in the...

    Nice choice! Did you find it locally here in the Front Range? May I ask price/condition/miles?
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