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    In one of my posts and my review I specifically...

    In one of my posts and my review I specifically call out the shell molds approximately 5mm. Foot-specific boot-fitting questions I will leave to experts (mtnlion- greg, xavier etc)
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    One pair of liners will work for both. No...

    One pair of liners will work for both. No objective reason but I'd mold it for boots you'd use the most
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    Heads up from Matt Manser "Check in with your...

    Heads up from Matt Manser

    "Check in with your local Atomic retailer and have them order the "XTD Free/Lock Base Plate 13/19", part number AZE001416. This just recently became available and using...
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    as El Chup suspected - it made no difference when...

    as El Chup suspected - it made no difference when used in Beast, Vipec, Tecton, Kingpin, old Vertical, Comfort. I never checked in alpine or WTR binding
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    El Chup they are in really short supply. What's...

    El Chup they are in really short supply. What's in shops are what in shops and it's a boot of the year.

    If Europe had a poor snow maybe there'd be chances but it's unlikely

    Sent from my...
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    I got something like 10mm extra width out of the...

    I got something like 10mm extra width out of the Mtn Lab toe box. Crazy. And I bet it could have gone for more
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    Agree with you and disagree with Blister. That...

    Agree with you and disagree with Blister. That Production liner is a typical Palau liner good for 30days then bag it for catfood




    Its in the NS thread and summarized in my review. Different...
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    That's good feedback. Wet sock is more like the...

    That's good feedback. Wet sock is more like the TLT5 liner. I'd say dogshit is like the older Megaride Palau liners, the older Mercury/Vulcan stock. Binnable out-of-the-box failures is like the...
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    Def harsh for sure but i've said it before and...

    Def harsh for sure but i've said it before and will say it again - I am totally 100% an Intuition liner whore and completely biased. Matt Manser did say that the 130 liner I tried in the proto is...
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    I believe it can be done with both BUT the...

    I believe it can be done with both BUT the results will be uneven. At your own risk with new shells then if you wish

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    The stock liner had as much support as a wet sock...

    The stock liner had as much support as a wet sock fwiw but that was apparently improved in production. Did you stick an Intuition in there? Curious
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    I put a sz 27 Protour in the sz 27 Atomic. ...

    I put a sz 27 Protour in the sz 27 Atomic.

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    Matt Manser said it pretty well in the NS thread....

    Matt Manser said it pretty well in the NS thread. 120 should be fine for almost everyone. 130 is all bells and whistles; kind of almost a dentist boot. 120 is priced way better
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    I like this Greg. You just need a foot picture...

    I like this Greg. You just need a foot picture to complete it

    The flex of the Vulcan/Mercury was definitely on the harsh side, and I ended up cutting a "V" in the tongues of these boots to soften...
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    Thanks Greg. Honestly I can't keep up - the...

    Thanks Greg. Honestly I can't keep up - the mix-match and standards are so mutable
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    Review here...

    Review here http://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/Atomic-Hawx-Ultra-XTD-Alpine-touring-boot-2017-8
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    Greg - i Brainfarted- it is a 312mm HawX in my...

    Greg - i Brainfarted- it is a 312mm HawX in my 27,5 size. Just writing the review and noticed my goof
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    I was in a 26 ZeroG and a 27 Atomic Hawx. You...

    I was in a 26 ZeroG and a 27 Atomic Hawx. You will be able tp punch the Hawx for space at forefoot and in step

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    They punch well and hold a punch Easily...

    They punch well and hold a punch



    Easily even with just a MemoryFit cook. See previous posts where I discussed that



    Sizing the same as other touring boots. Which means + 1 to 0.5 up...
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    All the pics I linked were not displayed due to a...

    All the pics I linked were not displayed due to a change in the TGR forum setup. Here's the offline album.
    ...
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    Greg. It surprised me too

    Greg. It surprised me too
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    314mm

    314mm
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    I posted this pic ...

    I posted this pic

    https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17498633_10154162764146626_1947558460587782854_n.jpg?oh=ea8eceaa5d43b2d21cbcfc9ebba93572&oe=596255B7

    and someone asked me "Which...
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    Thanks Buenonda - how much do you weigh?

    Thanks Buenonda - how much do you weigh?
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    Middle of the road

    Middle of the road
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    That's the beauty of the interwebz and TGR. We...

    That's the beauty of the interwebz and TGR. We can have different impressions. Just 15 days on Hawk & MtnLab. But about 200 on Vulcan. Probably 100 or so Tecnica Cochise and ZeroG. Going to try...
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    Without the tongue. Only weigh 75kg

    Without the tongue. Only weigh 75kg
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    Ah that's good to know. Putting a tongue in and...

    Ah that's good to know. Putting a tongue in and out touring would be a bummer for most. I know it would be for me
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    Thx Summit and Grinch. I've got one waiting for...

    Thx Summit and Grinch. I've got one waiting for review. Will have to do the boot on boot test. Interesting..... weights would seem to be still in the 1600g range for the boot without tongue but...
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    Is the tongue easy to remove on the Lupo? ...

    Is the tongue easy to remove on the Lupo? Reviews and pictures don't show it clearly
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    Maybe I'm just being pessimistic. I don't know...

    Maybe I'm just being pessimistic. I don't know for sure if the Vulcan will continue for next year. I'll ask around. I've hoarded a couple of pairs for myself just in case
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    It's still mindblowing how Dynafit basically...

    It's still mindblowing how Dynafit basically orphaned the Vulcan for the Khion Beast. Hope they go ahead with the Hoji Vulcan 2.0. Pretty amazing that the Vulcan, a 5 year old boot, is still the...
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    Cochise would be very close in skiing performance...

    Cochise would be very close in skiing performance FOR MY SIZE AND WEIGHT. Wouldn't come close to touring as well.

    ZeroG would be not quite as good touring or downhill but I had limited days.
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    No idea. Scarpa recently eviscerated NA...

    No idea. Scarpa recently eviscerated NA marketing and is short on samples. Hate to guess on something like that
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    Khion is reviewed here...

    Khion is reviewed here https://www.tetongravity.com/story/gear-tech/dynafit-carbon-khion-alpine-touring-boot-teton-tested

    Prelim instinct is Khion is tied with Atomic for ski quality but far behind...
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    A few more days on this boot and some thoughts...

    A few more days on this boot and some thoughts after mostly touring and some inbounds. Tried the Vulcan and Mountain Lab on one foot and the Hawk Ultra Extended on the other foot at the same time.
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    [QUOTE=gregL;4952444]Hey Lee and XXX'er, deal me...

    [QUOTE=gregL;4952444]Hey Lee and XXX'er, deal me in!

    You and XXX-ers my azn brothers
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    Re 1st buckle. People weight weenie this boot. ...

    Re 1st buckle. People weight weenie this boot. I personally won't but enough will ask that I felt it best to get the info first hand.

    If you take a look at the Wildsnow article there's quite a...
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    No idea about the QST boot. I fit the Mtn Lab...

    No idea about the QST boot. I fit the Mtn Lab well after extensive punching fyi
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    Visually it looks the same. After removing the...

    Visually it looks the same. After removing the forefoot buckle one then has to crank the 2nd buckle quite a bit in ski mode to get a good ski fit. Cranking that buckle visually shifts the overlap a...
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    Volumizer goes between liner and bootboard. I...

    Volumizer goes between liner and bootboard. I suppose it could also go into liner if you have space but that would suggest a poor cook
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    With the Hawk Ultra Extended you get laces for...

    With the Hawk Ultra Extended you get laces for the liner, spoiler (in case the 17 deg forward lean is not enough) and a thin volumizer to take up some space
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    What Xavier said then also add tech fittings. ...

    What Xavier said then also add tech fittings. Tough to get much boot length



    Thats a tough one. If it were 1 finger then for sure give it a go. 0.5 though isn't a hell of a lot. I chose to...
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    Took the Hawk Ultra Extended out for a long tour...

    Took the Hawk Ultra Extended out for a long tour and skied ego boosting blower pow lines. Not a great test for downhill as Backland Ultimates could have done just as fine in snow of such acceptable...
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    Gratuitous gear shot. I'll try them with the...

    Gratuitous gear shot. I'll try them with the Backland 109 and the Backland bindings

    https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16681733_10154084522936626_5111123404733522366_n.j ...
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    I tried editing the thread title but it didn't...

    I tried editing the thread title but it didn't work. Annoying.

    man you wrote this one pretty much the way I did. I tried the boot without the volume spacers and had to clamp down the buckles a...
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    Bump for Timberridge Noram rep tells me that...

    Bump for Timberridge

    Noram rep tells me that they would prefer to call it the Hawk EXTENDED. Unfortunate connotation for XTD when said a bit too quickly perhaps.

    Got some boots and a PK and...
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    Holy crap. That guy is good. Awesome info. ...

    Holy crap. That guy is good. Awesome info. Matthew Manser from Austria fyi.

    Judo and Rob they only have them in sz 27 right now as a limited ryn
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    Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD aka Hawk Extended aka HawX

    Atomic Hawk Ultra XTD aka Hawk Extended aka HawX

    I'll throw up the stuff I got from Atomic here. Going to be away skiing next week and not going to get the boot for another couple of weeks but...
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