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Yes.

How about one asking how Alterra can sell more tickets than the CCC allows?

Ultimately, the cost of skiing in the PNW will continue to rise as long as environmentalists keep threatening to sue.

In sum, you do not know. I don't like it, but it's a fact that not only are the parking passes increasing in cost, but now all of A lot is permit only. I'm detecting a trend.

Again, your stated...

Funny, I thought that you claimed that Crystal charging for parking was not possible. What does this "think' mean?

I'm so confused.

I don't like the fee, but I'm not sure we're on the same...

So Crystal may or may not have the right to charge for parking. And none of us have copy of the SUP to really claim one way or the other. It's always nice to assume things that help your position...

Does the permit explicitly allow them to charge for the upper lot? Enquiring minds would like to know.

That's all fine,

I think environmentalists do and I think they have an important role to play.

But I also think they overstep their mandate when it comes to ski area development and have an...

Well golly gosh gee and wowsers. How incredibly insightful.

I'm glad that you agree that environmentalists impact the development of ski areas, despite your positioning with them.

Viability wasn't your argument counselor, it was that environmentalists are not to blame. So nice pivot.

Look, there's a lot of factors as to why ski areas are not being developed in the PNW. ...

So you're saying it's because of intermittent snow? OK. And environmentalists had an impact? Cool.

Excellent counselor.

Do you have further expertise to offer on the Crustal MDP and the...

Anyone who has whit of experience knows that the access road used to be much better managed and that WSP used to regulate access on snow days. You're just wrong here. They are knowingly overselling...

How involved in the Crustal MDP were you? Read up on the Sandy Butte. I think you're posting out of ignorance in this regard.


This is also not true. There's a number of excellent spots I omit...

Yup. And this is where I diverge from most libuhrals with regard to the Nature Conservancy, the Sierra Club and other environmental groups who attack the ski areas on the basis of environmental...

^This was my problem.

On the subject of Crustal abuse and errors, at the root is knowingly selling more tickets to a public owned resource than can be satisfied. That is a betrayal of the Public...

Oh good; that will make Crustal even more crowded.

Really kind of a joke when Alterra has bungled the road management so badly that people can't even get up the access road.

Plus, the parking...

Been transferring my ppass the last few years; now that our kids are grown and don't ski with me, it's better for other people with kids to use it.


The main barricade is below the bridge above...

A lot @ Crustal is now $1100/year paid parking only*.

*there's a midweek non main season pass for $500.

That will teach all you second class hoi polloi to try to ski Crustal.

Hey, La Nina building:

https://psl.noaa.gov/map/clim/sst.shtml

Sunrise off in the distance.
...

++++

Smells fishy to me; this corvid is nothing to crow about.

Izzat because of your essences?

huh?

I got in good shape too, touring around the Oberalppass for 7 days...

It's a number thing: there's some probability that someone will get hurt and need hospitalization or SAR assistance or some other resource.

Either you count, or you don't.

Right now, especially...

Perhaps the Wharton School could host a seminar on how not to run a ski area?

Well gee, I sure hope they don't fix the toilets. It's the last defense against the Ikonistas.

Try your congressional rep or even Senator, most of the FS won't care since they're hoping for or using revolving doors in the forest industries and won't sully their chances.

Can you...

No surprise.
I'm phrasing it as an abuse of the Public Trust: knowingly selling more lift tickets than they can service on public lands.

we will be up

Padded seats ftw

Looks like it: was 39F on top @ 16:00, freezing level down to 6k tomorrow.

Props, Poppa K

Speak for yourself hippie.

where^?

Slippery Creek slips again.

That place was a funkhole.

w0000t

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ski alpental some, then get back to us.

bakers ok, but it's 3+ hours drive.

I like crustal a bunch too, but this is like old biddys bickering about which flavor of protestant is best and whose...

Is the skiing inverse of sour grapes fourflaking?

NWAC is my meteoharbinger.

Looks like tomorrow am may allow Crustal upper mtn ops, but afternoon at 9k is:
Friday Morning
W 40 - 55

Friday Afternoon
WSW 55 - 75

Iffy would be a...

So long as the access road is kept in shitty shape, huh?

Tram from Sunrise to Summit House. There's not enough lifts unloading there.

I understand Alterra has hired John Galt as the new traffic coordinator promoting a new genre of rational self driving access and the rights of individuals to use their steering wheels solely for...

Thanks!
The three weeks of guck seems to be concluding.

I was. 3 laps off Debbies, 3 laps on 2.

ya think?

Sand must be against their religion?

Sure seemed like all the people that went to Crustal yesterday decided to drive up I90 about noon today.

Divisive pnw skiology again?