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    Hah, that didn't take much convincing :) Glad I...

    Hah, that didn't take much convincing :) Glad I could be of some small help.

    If any mag is in need of a helping push to justify buying gear let me know and I will be your designated hypeman ;)
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    Regular / resort layup skis with fairly light...

    Regular / resort layup skis with fairly light tech bindings is a fairly common setup for those who go up to ski down big lines, at least in the world of pro skiers. It is a great setup for touring,...
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    Keep in mind that the old tour construction was a...

    Keep in mind that the old tour construction was a milled down version of the standard core with 19oz glass instead of 22oz, whereas the new one is all eh... new. ;)

    If weight is of secondary...
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    Interestingly, the guy who I think make those...

    Interestingly, the guy who I think make those illustrations - or the measurements behind em anyway - is Endre Hals, ake Mr. www.eviskis.com. He had more than a bit to do with the creation of Hoji's...
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    I already commented on it in the ON3P thread, but...

    I already commented on it in the ON3P thread, but MF108s feel a bit different on snow than ON3Ps. I have only been on 182s, but their softer flex and construction derived smoothness
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    The entire line has not dropped yet. The Jessie,...

    The entire line has not dropped yet. The Jessie, Mera and Crushing Cans (Meeks custom top sheet) slots are not shown yet. J96s will be custom only for 2022 - I asked Iggy a while back.



    My...
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    Custom only - same as Woodsman116s (and wren96,...

    Custom only - same as Woodsman116s (and wren96, 108 and 114s). So this time of year that means a 20usd up charge and your choice of graphic as long as you choose from the stock options :)

    I do not...
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    hell yes! Solid choice - the Wren graphics are...

    hell yes! Solid choice - the Wren graphics are damned awesome this year. Can't wait to see some closeups of these!

    I am glad Iggy is planning to add more up close photos of the skis. The current...
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    Skiers who are slightly more...

    Skiers who are slightly more centered/upright/less directional and/or rides in slightly shallower/more variable conditions? I dunno - I am not the resident BG Whisperer, I am just trying not to...
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    Take this with a grain of salt as I have not...

    Take this with a grain of salt as I have not skied the new skis - yes, it should facilitate a slight increase in the skier's ability to manage speed / stop, even if the new ski is more soft/deep snow...
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    Moment just dropped a ski that could be right up...

    Moment just dropped a ski that could be right up your ally - Commander Tour. 1855gr/182 lenght touring ski with two sheets of metal and full edges/bases, so light enough to go up, but hella capable...
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    yeah, BG's ability to provide you with effortless...

    yeah, BG's ability to provide you with effortless speed management is great. They turn on a dime, and as such - when you want to stop you pivot them and angulate them skis and voila, like magic, you...
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    gaijin, worry not - the rocker lines are very...

    gaijin, worry not - the rocker lines are very gradual in person - especially out front which is pretty damned similar to Renegades - and the BG's ability to shred variable is down to the golden...
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    man, these pictures makes me all kinds of excited...

    man, these pictures makes me all kinds of excited - the new tail rocker looks awesome.



    The BG is offered with 4 ready to ship graphics in the 187 length.

    If you want a different graphic,...
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    well done Melee - the new line up looks amazing. ...

    well done Melee - the new line up looks amazing.

    Wildcat tours look sensational, as does the Commander Tours (the new metal layup and full on bases/edges sound absolutely killer for this type of...
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    Yeah, that was what I was trying to convey, but...

    Yeah, that was what I was trying to convey, but my specifics weren't that eh.. specific. Thanks for clearing it up :)

    I am not a fan of Dynafit, so I am biased against em to begin with. I am sure...
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    It was released last year as a more affordable...

    It was released last year as a more affordable Raider-version, but I have yet to see any feedback on them. The heels are the same, as are the principles used in the toe - the difference is the...
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    oh, but they do, at least compared to older...

    oh, but they do, at least compared to older Dynafits -> you do not pre-release ;) Increased functional elasticity, probably pretty negliable.

    The issue with describing it as performance benefit...
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    The rotation feature provides no more meaingful...

    The rotation feature provides no more meaingful elasticity in the front than any other tech binding. The swivel bit - as it it is locked on a axis - provides a solution to Dynafits of yesteryear...
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    FriFlyt seem to agree with you wrt the stiffness...

    FriFlyt seem to agree with you wrt the stiffness out back on Blazes & Katana108s, whereas Mantra102 are slightly stiffer out back (makes sense) and comparable to Katana108s in the front.

    I dunno,...
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    I know this is kinda obvious, but it all comes...

    I know this is kinda obvious, but it all comes down a tradeoff and what types of traits you want them to exibit.

    I think BGtours will be exceedingly good pow skis in all but the most challenging...
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    The BG118 was launched yesterday, so I doubt...

    The BG118 was launched yesterday, so I doubt you'll find much real world feedback on them :)

    I have not skied either (but have skied wood116s, kartel116s and BGs quite a bit), but by looking at...
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    You should consider petitioning Iggy to bring...

    You should consider petitioning Iggy to bring back a limited run of Pillow Fights then, that is - if you want something truly fat. ;)

    I've never seen PF irl. Does anybody know what their mount...
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    Nein, the widest is still the 116 - available...

    Nein, the widest is still the 116 - available through customs, just specify that it is the ski you want. So it can be ordered now / during the summer customs sale in the stock configuration with your...
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    clear + clear looks interesting for sure. Nice to...

    clear + clear looks interesting for sure. Nice to see various elements.



    yeah, I am probably the worst person in the thread to make the overthinking point as well as I do not just overthink my...
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    do not get me wrong, I think KVWs in 177 are an...

    do not get me wrong, I think KVWs in 177 are an absolute blast in soft snow and on groomers. They slay both of those conditions with aplomb. I just dislike their balance point as the terrain slackens...
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    sounds good, though a good post ride drink can be...

    sounds good, though a good post ride drink can be a sweet glass of carbonated water - aka something to enjoy while thinking about what a great day you just had - it need not be brewed as such, though...
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    I would be surprised if you did not find your new...

    I would be surprised if you did not find your new skis to be an upgrade on pretty much any factor other than being heavier.

    The move away from elliptical sidecut in the tails made the skis more...
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    I am sure that Iggy will provide some added info...

    I am sure that Iggy will provide some added info on the new lineup before long, though I imagine that he has been more than a bit busy as of late between updating the site, finalizing graphics and...
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    Huzzah - the 2022 line is live! Or most of it...

    Huzzah - the 2022 line is live! Or most of it anyway. Good jobb Iggy and crew!

    Best graphic name? "Touring gram reducing white+red" :)

    Fuck - I want to order some new sticks. Wood102tours in...
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    I am sure that you are aware, but 177 is the...

    I am sure that you are aware, but 177 is the shortest length for KVWs. Also, the shovels are 2mm narrower, so a mm a side - something I doubt you'd noticed. Not that the latter is an issue if you...
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    The various Woodsmans are in the process of being...

    The various Woodsmans are in the process of being Castified, and in some cases re-Castified. The main drivers behind the move are not that I dislike Shifts or are unhappy with them - they have worked...
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    the issue with the 177 as a solution is that the...

    the issue with the 177 as a solution is that the real difference isn't all that big from your current setup imho. The 177 measure in at 177 or some such, while the 184 is more like 182 no?, so not a...
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    That is very interesting - thanks for the...

    That is very interesting - thanks for the feedback. :)
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    Interesting - the same thing came up in the...

    Interesting - the same thing came up in the Blizzard thread. It was mentioned there too that it is currently slow going shifting units in anything wider than 110.

    But man Iggy, the new lineup...
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    yes yes, but Patience my friends, patience...

    yes yes, but



    Patience my friends, patience - all good things come to those who wait. ;)

    Also, it could be that the design you crave will be available as a stock ski with zero up charge. I...
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    snicker - doesn't everybody's office look like...

    snicker - doesn't everybody's office look like that pre-season? ;)

    Aforementioned le Goat Pen;


    I think it is fair to say that Bandit should able to provide pretty damned nuanced feedback...
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    holy jeebus guys, agruing about preference is...

    holy jeebus guys, agruing about preference is kinda pointless - unless you ski the same terrain/snow with the same technique. And 123ski, worry not - asym will probably be available through customs...
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    I do not get the debate above. So more float out...

    I do not get the debate above. So more float out front with a slightly more supportive rear end should kinda equal out no or equal the gap balance wise, especially if the flex pattern is a tad softer...
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    Man, the BG110tour and BG118tour graphics are...

    Man, the BG110tour and BG118tour graphics are both amazing too, even if the Wood110 is stupendously good and hard to beat. I never knew I loved clouds/smoke on skis as I apparently do - the wood110...
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    ON3P 11/12 catalogue...

    ON3P 11/12 catalogue with those in it. All past year catalogues up to the 17/18 season.



    yeah, I probably should, they seem like killer skis - though that part of the quiver is a bit bloated...
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    yeah, my bad if I came across as confrontational...

    yeah, my bad if I came across as confrontational or as a defensive ON3P fanboi - such was not my intent. And rest assured that BGs are not a wheelie type ski - their flex pattern is too supportive...
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    Has anyone tried a tour layup ski, but with a...

    Has anyone tried a tour layup ski, but with a stiffer flex pattern, or stiffer front ski? I am assuming that the flex would end up being somewhat similar to the stock layup with tour+stiffer, but...
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    To be honest, I am a bit unsure just what it is...

    To be honest, I am a bit unsure just what it is you hope to get out of your post, but I'll try to answer it regardless.

    Just try a pair before over-thinking whether the tail rocker lines are too...
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    Def 110s. Holy crap - those look amazing....

    Def 110s.

    Holy crap - those look amazing. Can't wait to see the rest of the line.
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    The shell is the same - sans labeling - the liner...

    The shell is the same - sans labeling - the liner and power strap are not. At least Lange has been pretty clear in stating that the two liners a different as far as I know. The only things that...
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    I would go through this thread...

    I would go through this thread if you have not already. If the info is not there already then there are mags in it that can provide it for you.

    I would also propose that you post the above...
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    Either size is going to work, but at you weight...

    Either size is going to work, but at you weight 189s will provide more float and be more stable - more likely than not without a significant loss in nimbleness.

    If you can get 184s at a steal...
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    My original plan for this summer was to see if I...

    My original plan for this summer was to see if I could afford a pair of custom wood102tis. I have regretted selling my wren96s and wren96tis (if not my wren88s), so I've been wanting to get back on a...
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    yeah, that Cooper tires' winter performance...

    yeah, that Cooper tires' winter performance deteriorate faster than tires from other brands is a well known issue with Coopers - that is, I've heard/read it multiple times before. Oh well.

    Thanks...
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