Yeah. I remember Big O had to special order them for us. But that wasn't in the mountains. What you related was just shit company rep to dealer communications. Pretty inexcusable.

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Thanks for clarifying what I was seeing. That makes sense.

I wonder if Cooper just wasn't selling enough or what?

Hard to say with different sizes on different vehicles. But it seemed to me that when the ATWs still had a fair amount of tread, they were the best AT tire experience on snow I've ever had. Very...

So did we establish that ATWs and AT3 4S are different tires that are being concurrently sold by Cooper? They're both still on Cooper's site? ATW not coming up in general google search nor when...

Depends on her tolerance and preference. I'm thankful to not have these issues. :fmicon:

Just curious how you managed to find either ATWs for that cheap or KO2s for that expensive. Similar prices at the generic tire shop. But the lowest Costco price is enough to pay for a Costco...

I bet shredgnar actually had AT3s? I think ATWs do well in the snow, even after some wear.

That said, BW, how were they almost double the cost of KO2s? Costco had KO2s for cheaper than I bought...

Pssst... ATW is the same pattern, rated a bit less tread life, but softer compound that does better in winter. Not noticeably different than a standard AT tire in the summer when it was a hundred in...

Cooper ATW, as previously stated.

Next time we may go KO2 simply due to Costco availability (so cheaper than Cooper), but depends on wife because it's her DD while I drive the commuter shitbox.

My father-in-law likes those Michelin ATs on his half-ton too. Was happy with them this winter around Truckee. YMMV.

My ATWs are from BigO, but always done Costco otherwise. Same lifetime balancing and rotation. But Costco has a deal where if the tire fails, they'll prorate you the remaining value based on a...

^^^ That's part of it for sure. They generally get more expensive as you go up the load range. It's also not a cheap tire, generally.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=55
http://www.americastire.com/learn/load-range-load-index
http://www.trucktrend.com/how-to/towing/1407-understanding-tire-load-ratings/

It definitely would be, but the ATW doesn't come in a C rating for the OEM tire size. They only have two C-rated size options. 4R is primarily my wife's daily driver. When I was tire shopping 18...

Yeah, they're not cheap, but treadwear is excellent.



I have ATWs in load range E on the 4Runner. As does bodywhomper on his Landcruiser. Excellent results. Road noise is really reasonable,...

Danno, you have a Costco in B-town, yeah? Buy the p-rated or c-rated KO2s and call it good. Long treadlife, excellent reviews, and better than average traction in snow and ice.

Costco carries KO2s now. That'd be my choice as a Costco truck tire, no question.

(Assume ^^^ purchased before KO2s available?)

Which Korea?
http://i.imgur.com/0TEadKu.jpg

I strongly suspect he was talking about the old version. People rave about the new ones, and all the tire tests give them top marks.

I'm still digging the Cooper ATWs on my 4Runner.

265/70/17. Non-Limited 5th Gens come with 17" wheels. Limiteds have 20s, which I would have ditched immediately if we went that route.

Really? I hear them all the time. Family members and friends run them often.

I have 12k on the Cooper ATWs we put on our 4Runner just before Thanksgiving last year. Best AT tire in the snow I've...