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    Yeah, that's the best educated guess. Exposure to...

    Yeah, that's the best educated guess. Exposure to high doses would explain why young healthy health care workers died from the virus. The problem, statistically speaking, is it's difficult to test...
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    Currently there's no way to quantify what the...

    Currently there's no way to quantify what the threshold is but a higher dose is clearly worse. The number of infected people matters, proximity matters, timing matters, and aiflow whether indoors or...
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    Deebz attempting to turn the absence of evidence...

    Deebz attempting to turn the absence of evidence into a man bites dog story. A half-witted jellyfish could make a better point.


    At the time Mofro, iceman, and others had good laugh at deebs...
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    ^ Spot on, the rojo and deebz deliberate strategy...

    ^ Spot on, the rojo and deebz deliberate strategy plainly stated is to “Flood the zone with shit.”


    On the off chance anyone cares: in response to Deebs post above, he purposely left out the...
  5. Awesome that they showed up, messed up that they...

    Awesome that they showed up, messed up that they had to.



    Heh, it's not all horses and buggies.

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  6. Things are messed up when conservative pious...

    Things are messed up when conservative pious Amish-Mennonite-ChurchOfGod groups show up to protest:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qud7ptrxOVg
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    lol @ reality. Election year partisan re-framing...

    lol @ reality. Election year partisan re-framing means ignoring Taiwan, Hong Kong, S Korea, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and so on, along with ignoring the fact that stay at home orders were...
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    ^ Also, many people assume the ratio of old to...

    ^ Also, many people assume the ratio of old to young affected by COVID is static. As people adapt to circumstance, and higher-risk people take more precautions, while lower risk people relax their...
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    Nope. You're months late to the discussion. Even...

    Nope. You're months late to the discussion. Even your posts about the serology results from Spain and France were discussed here the week before you began trolling.

    The response to your arguments...
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    Why? I've been making a similar argument, along...

    Why? I've been making a similar argument, along with plenty of other people, to the one in liv2ski's post here for months and we're still in the club. You haven't brought anything new to the table....
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    lol, as predicted Ron breaks his promise by...

    lol, as predicted Ron breaks his promise by moving the goalpost with his otherwise invalid argument.
  12. Who knows how fringe this is but there are...

    Who knows how fringe this is but there are articles about the “Boogaloo Bois,” a right wing militia movement embedding themselves in protests hoping confrontations with law enforcement will build...
  13. Bow and arrow guy was interviewed afterwords by...

    Bow and arrow guy was interviewed afterwords by local news. He said he showed up and drove through the crowd shouting all lives matter in order to "help" the police. After he got out of his car and...
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    We all know Ron won't keep his promise to stop...

    We all know Ron won't keep his promise to stop posting if an argument of his is invalidated. But, in a recent post Ron wrote in response to Adolf Allerbus's argument that killing millions of American...
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    The difference is Buster is telling the truth....

    The difference is Buster is telling the truth. Deeb on the other hand, no way, since lying is like 90% of what he does. He likes to make things up, for example:
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    Yeah, understood. Core Shot asked about...

    Yeah, understood. Core Shot asked about hospitalized or dead for under 40 so about 0.2% fatalities among diagnosed cases, 20% of all hospitalizations, 12% of ICU admissions, and roughly 0.025% of all...
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    ^ Either way the numbers are low for people under...

    ^ Either way the numbers are low for people under 40 but the 0.2% is the case fatality rate which is not the same as the percentage of all cases.

    Early on there was a strong nosocomial...
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    The data across several first world countries...

    The data across several first world countries shows the case fatality rate for people ages 20 to 40 is currently about .2% so somewhere around 99.8% of the cases under 40 survive. Under 40 also make...
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    Conservative source National Review hinting at...

    Conservative source National Review hinting at political machinations from the new CDC site featuring the low IFR numbers mentioned above:

    Why Does the CDC Think the COVID-19 Fatality Rate Is So...
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    ^ Speaking of masks, a new BMJ Global Health...

    ^ Speaking of masks, a new BMJ Global Health study shows masks capable of reducing secondary SARS-CoV-2 transmission in households by 79%:

    https://gh.bmj.com/content/bmjgh/5/5/e002794.full.pdf
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    And yet numerators and denominators still confuse...

    And yet numerators and denominators still confuse you.


    Also, the quoted text in Deeb's post below appears to be fabricated. So yeah, both innumerate and mendacious.
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    Never, not once, have I argued there are no...

    Never, not once, have I argued there are no asymptomatic carriers. Because Deeb is dumb and mendacious Deeb continues to confuse/conflate infectious and/or pre-symptomatic with asymptomatic. He was...
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    Are you innumerate? Because I used your CDC...

    Are you innumerate? Because I used your CDC numbers. NYC is also on average healthier than the US population and those results are in line with meta-analysis from other regions and countries. In...
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    It looks like COVID is around ten times more...

    It looks like COVID is around ten times more deadly than the flu even for the under 65 crowd.

    According to your source for the '17/18, notably bad, influenza season IFR-Symptomatic by age group:
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    A few weeks ago when Sweden's health authority...

    A few weeks ago when Sweden's health authority issued a press release saying they were well (40%) on their way to herd immunity people here quickly blew those claims out of the water with some back...
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    And so because of ABBA Sweden becomes our...

    And so because of ABBA Sweden becomes our Waterloo....
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    The paper was released Sunday and will be...

    The paper was released Sunday and will be published in the Clinical Infectious Diseases medical journal, but isn't available on the internet yet.

    I couldn't find better info on symptoms and viral...
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    Given the United States history of being the...

    Given the United States history of being the world's leader in epidemic response LongShortLong's counterfactual reads more true than not.

    Deebased is moving the goal post by arguing no country...
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    That he respects your statistics degree from...

    That he respects your statistics degree from Koch-Brothers university.
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    Despite all the wheels they're still just a rat...

    Despite all the wheels they're still just a rat in a cage.
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    They have. A study used hamsters (is that small...

    They have. A study used hamsters (is that small enough?) with fans to simulate the wind blowing across cages from an infected group to a healthy group. Mask barriers were placed just on cages with...
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    It’s a dilemma. Everyone’s future depends...

    It’s a dilemma. Everyone’s future depends critically on the course of the disease. Barring a technological breakthrough like a vaccine or a treatment America’s economic recovery will depend on trust....
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    You're wrong. Masks work if enough people wear...

    You're wrong. Masks work if enough people wear them.

    In Japan, where nearly everyone is wearing a mask, there is no lockdown, still-active subways, and many businesses have remained...
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    Both studies looked at cloth masks in a...

    Both studies looked at cloth masks in a clinic/hospital setting and found them ineffective compared with an N95. That's why, along with not wanting to create even more shortages for health care...
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    Harvard has a new study/model on climate...

    Harvard has a new study/model on climate conditions and COVID-19 transmission.

    They find temperature and relative humidity changes R0 (the contagiousness or transmissibility) of COVID-19 by as...
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    And, in the spirit of bipartisanship NYC's De...

    And, in the spirit of bipartisanship NYC's De Blasio initially attempted to follow simple, faulty ideas from herd immunity ideologists that sounded good, but went against what leading national and...
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    Speaking of the truth and gross negligence, for...

    Speaking of the truth and gross negligence, for anyone who missed anything Edward Luce with the Financial Times has a recap of the story so far:


    Again and again, the story that emerged is of a...
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    If 80% of Americans wore masks, COVID-19...

    If 80% of Americans wore masks, COVID-19 Infections would plummet, according to a new study.

    There’s compelling evidence that Japan, Hong Kong, and other East Asian locales are doing it right and...
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    ^ Re highangle's head cold and for all the people...

    ^ Re highangle's head cold and for all the people who had respiratory illnesses earlier this past winter, it's unlikely you had COVID but the good news is if it was caused by one of the other...
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    Speaking of immunity, recent research suggests...

    Speaking of immunity, recent research suggests there's crossreactive immunity from other coronaviruses which might explain why there's so many mild or asymptomatic cases, and also suggests vaccines...
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    It would be helpful if the subset of folk(s) here...

    It would be helpful if the subset of folk(s) here would stop the "lockdown" rhetoric. There are very few instances of crude shotgun blast lockdowns in America. It's a minority of people persisting...
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    Framing this as lockdown vs reopening is...

    Framing this as lockdown vs reopening is inaccurate because businesses are reopening so what matters is how they go about doing it. How people choose to act.

    There won't be a robust return to...
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    Is what we're doing now working? Didn't somebody...

    Is what we're doing now working? Didn't somebody here post a bunch of charts and then argue it's mostly elderly and health compromised who are affected so we should end whatever it is we're doing?
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    ^ And we shouldn't assume there's an easy way of...

    ^ And we shouldn't assume there's an easy way of protecting high risk individuals while simultaneously allowing the virus to spread unchecked.

    What are we going to do tuck them away in bubble...
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    It exposes the dangers of widespread reopening...

    It exposes the dangers of widespread reopening without a containment plan.

    Case in point the Smithfield Foods meatpacking plant in South Dakota. Smithfield paid bonuses to workers for not staying...
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    FWIW, all macro models including Austrian,...

    FWIW, all macro models including Austrian, Keynesian, Marxist, monetarist, and RBC define rising prosperity as increasing real incomes, not increasing nominal wages and not increasing asset prices....
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    The key point is the money supply is not a...

    The key point is the money supply is not a reliable measure of monetary policy. The evidence that the Fed was too tight is seen in the sharp drop in Nominal GDP (NGDP) leading to a sharp drop in Real...
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