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    Sticky: I don't see why it should not. The bindings look...

    I don't see why it should not. The bindings look basically the same.

    But I can't be sure without having both for a side-by-side comparison -which I don't have, unfortunately.
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    Sticky: No, it doesn't The heel piece of the Warden 11...

    No, it doesn't

    The heel piece of the Warden 11 is different. I am currently working on a template that accomodates the Warden11
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    Sticky: I am happy if people do use my templates and...

    I am happy if people do use my templates and develop them further. I am more than pleased, if my templates help in any way.

    But please change at least the colour scheme and make it clear that this...
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    Sticky: To all of you who have been struggling getting my...

    To all of you who have been struggling getting my templates, when needed: my deepest apologies. Powderguide.com is suffering from an unprecedented series of technical issues beyond my control.

    I...
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    Sticky: If you think you're the only source of my...

    If you think you're the only source of my feedback (or maybe the only engineer mounting skis on the internet?), you're much mistaken.

    And if you aim to give constructive feedback, maybe you...
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    Sticky: Not for inserts admittedly, but I doubt that...

    Not for inserts admittedly, but I doubt that wouldn't have worked. The template has been used for 9xx, STH and STH2 in my hands as well as quite a few other's I trust to be competent.


    Of course,...
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    Sticky: That's 0.265 mm per hole. Besides being well...

    That's 0.265 mm per hole.

    Besides being well within the wiggle room an M5 machine screw has within the binding's holes, see my post above for reference of why I don't agree. Hell, the line...
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    Sticky: The funny thing being that 100-oaks referred to...

    The funny thing being that 100-oaks referred to V1.0 and his suggestions have long since implemented.

    Drama queen :rolleyes2


    My and Jondrum's template (current R6) are identical when it comes...
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    Sticky: That's the standard M-Series template.

    That's the standard M-Series template.
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    Sticky: I haven't seen one on the webs yet. The heel...

    I haven't seen one on the webs yet. The heel pattern has changed in comparison to the Axial2, correct?

    If you'll measure it, I'll make a template, no problem.
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    Sticky: I have updated the file to include a few of the...

    I have updated the file to include a few of the bindings that hit the market in the last years.
    Someone in this forum was looking for a vipec/kingpin mount pattern comparison, I think - but I fail...
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    Sticky: Thanks again. Template with the change from 38 to...

    Thanks again. Template with the change from 38 to 36mm is up (also because two more people suggested it on the German forum).
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    Sticky: Thanks mate, feedback is always much appreciated...

    Thanks mate, feedback is always much appreciated (and much needed). I will look into it and change the template accordingly. Fine-tuning the beast templates has been quite a nuisance with conflicting...
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    Sticky: Isn't that the same mounting pattern as all...

    Isn't that the same mounting pattern as all Jester/Griffon/Squire/Lord? They all have the same mount pattern for normal/schizo/demo, just that the demo gets mounted for BSL 315 to fit all boot sole...
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    Sticky: I'd be curious to know what is incorrect about...

    I'd be curious to know what is incorrect about the Vipec template, as I have had only positive feedback up to now and people verifying it.

    Thanks for helping to improve the templates further
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    Sticky: They are the same than the new axial3. Which are...

    They are the same than the new axial3. Which are different than the axial2, if I'm not mistaken.
    I yet haven't mounted one of those myself, and I am not aware of an existing template


    You should...
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    Sticky: You got some quite different measurements there...

    You got some quite different measurements there when compared to existing templates for the Marker M Series. Any idea why that binder is so different?
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    Sticky: I'll look into a solution for that.

    I'll look into a solution for that.
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    Sticky: Cheers, mate! Very helpful indeed. Although it...

    Cheers, mate! Very helpful indeed.
    Although it seems you got an outdated version of the paper template there. Nonetheless this comparison is highly useful and I'll tweak the numbers further

    ...
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    Sticky: You'll find a non verified one in the link above...

    You'll find a non verified one in the link above your post.
    Non verified meaning I just know of one single successful mount. I'm pretty sure the template's correct, but proceed with caution.
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    Sticky: The squire demo has the same mount pattern than...

    The squire demo has the same mount pattern than the jester demo/schizo. Which is actually just one hole more than the normal jester/griffon/squire.

    You can find the template for all those bindings...
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    Sticky: Got ya. Thanks. Obviously, it was me that got...

    Got ya. Thanks.

    Obviously, it was me that got it wrong this time.
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    Sticky: Cheers, mate So, this is correct, then? ...

    Cheers, mate

    So, this is correct, then?


    Sorry to be so nitpicky on this, but I am normally craving for any input I can get to improve my templates for accurancy. And although you used another...
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    Sticky: Just to get this straight: by - you mean further...

    Just to get this straight: by - you mean further towards the tail and by + further towards the tip of the ski?

    I'm asking because I find this very confusing. If a BSL midline position is e.g....
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    Sticky: Sorry to hear that! Unfortunately, it's not my...

    Sorry to hear that!
    Unfortunately, it's not my website. I'm just a forum moderator there. But I forwarded the note of your trouble.
    However, it currently works fine for me. Maybe just try again on...
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    Sticky: Finding the Midsole or actually determining...

    Finding the Midsole or actually determining exactly the distance between the holes and the sole stop is always the hardest thing of making a template. So it's easily happening that when measuring the...
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    Sticky: Under the same link mentioned above you'll find...

    Under the same link mentioned above you'll find my vipec template. But please use with caution, it hasn't been verified by a second successful mount yet.



    Cheers, mate!


    Very good catch and...
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    Sticky: Checkout here under Marker/Kingpin:...

    Checkout here under Marker/Kingpin: http://www.powderguide.com/community/forum/post/zubehoer/montageanleitung-bindung-schnell-und-praezise-montieren.html?tx_mmforum_pi1[pid]=seite#pid7410
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    Sticky: I'd be surprised if the hole pattern would vary...

    I'd be surprised if the hole pattern would vary just slightly. A binding manufacturer would nromally be well advised to keep a pattern (all retail partners with jigs will be grateful), or change it...
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    Sticky: Check out the link 4 posts above yours. The...

    Check out the link 4 posts above yours. The Salomon STH2 template listed on that page should be what you're looking for.
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    Sticky: Happy to help. Good to know. I'll have a...

    Happy to help.



    Good to know. I'll have a look whether the 2nd pattern can be included into the template. Thanks or the info.
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    Sticky: or you: 1)Open and drink beer* 2)Consult...

    or you:

    1)Open and drink beer*
    2)Consult powderguide.com for a template.
    3)Mount your bindings.
    4)Post pics of the finished product.

    Still, step one remains of vital, utmost importance.
    ...
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    Sticky: After a bit of research I decided to adjust my...

    After a bit of research I decided to adjust my salomon templates (for full details, see here:...
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    Sticky: Easy with your wording there. I've mounted a...

    Easy with your wording there. I've mounted a dozen plus bindings with this template myself and have not run into any problems at all. Several times for mounting inserts. Proper mounts were never a...
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    Sticky: But the front piece screw pattern hasn't changed...

    But the front piece screw pattern hasn't changed at all. It's still the same trusty old driver toe...
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    Sticky: The STH2 isn't yet included in my BSL comparison...

    The STH2 isn't yet included in my BSL comparison PDF, unfortunately. Maybe I should update it somewhen....


    But I did a quick overlay. They're pretty conflicting on identical BSL (red is the...
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    Sticky: Blimey, how could I get it that wrong???...

    Blimey, how could I get it that wrong??? :confused:
    You clearly cited it....
    My bad.

    Then another apology seems in order. Even though three apologies in a row from me are a damn rare thing. :D
    ...
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    Sticky: My apologies for your inconvenience! But I have...

    My apologies for your inconvenience!
    But I have to admit that your troubles with boot centre being inaccurate puzzles me, as the STH2 driver toe is basically identical with the old sally driver toe...
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    Sticky: That's a proper way to go. You might also find...

    That's a proper way to go. You might also find this helpful: https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=102588&d=1320302347 (or the newer version:...
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    Sticky: Thanks, that's nice. But I didn't really bother,...

    Thanks, that's nice. But I didn't really bother, don't worry...
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    Sticky: Yes, it has beed done in Illustrator. But nope,...

    Yes, it has beed done in Illustrator. But nope, not by Jon ;)

    All my templates exist as Illustrator-files, if they're of any help to you, PM me.
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    Sticky: Same than Jester/Griffon

    Same than Jester/Griffon
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    Sticky: You can also tell the 4-hole heels apart from...

    You can also tell the 4-hole heels apart from those with 5 by slightly flexing them. Is it one stiff plate, where the binding is on, then it's the 4-hole piece.
    If the part with the breaks is...
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    Sticky: I did one once, but I never mounted the binding...

    I did one once, but I never mounted the binding in the end. So consider it being not verified.
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    Sticky: I wanted to say, that the placement on your...

    I wanted to say, that the placement on your template of the hole groups for toe piece and heel piece looks a little better to obtain an accurate mid-sole position.
    For the toe piece, the rear two...
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    Sticky: Your template (very minor tilt in it -sorry,...

    Your template (very minor tilt in it -sorry, tried to align to top left screw)
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    The four front screws on mine are spot on, but the 5th for Demo/Schizo looks better with your...
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    Sticky: My confidence level is mid-high. I didn't mount...

    My confidence level is mid-high. I didn't mount them myself, but a reliable friend and engineer did. Normally, he's rather picky and reported it to be fine. Measured myself from a scan, but I never...
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    Sticky: with 2 out of 3 I can provide assistance...

    with 2 out of 3 I can provide assistance...
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    Sticky: That's the one I did. It was used 2x successfully...

    That's the one I did. It was used 2x successfully to my knowledge.
    Feel free to use/change it...

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    Sticky: I agree on Jonathan's mounting strategy. And...

    I agree on Jonathan's mounting strategy.

    And BSL on AT and alpine boots is measured toe edge to heel edge in a straight line.
    Most TECH insert boots have the pin line 15mm behind toe edge. Some...
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