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    Based on what people have stated it seems like...

    Based on what people have stated it seems like you're safe up to +5mm from the stated brake width without bending, +10mm with either bending or shaving away some plastic. FWIW, I opted for the 120mm...
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    This happened to me during my initial test mount....

    This happened to me during my initial test mount. When the AFD is set too low for your boot (which it normally will be before you start adjusting), you need to consciously raise the toe up to the...
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    I wouldn't quite say that yet. The AFD has...

    I wouldn't quite say that yet. The AFD has definitely been a nuisance for me, but that's it. If it stays put the rest of the season it was worth the trouble. My guess is that most of the "walkout"...
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    The Official Salomon S/Lab SHIFT MNC Thread -AMA

    Ah. Missed that half of the initial question.
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    That part of the sole does sit on the AFD because...

    That part of the sole does sit on the AFD because the Shiftís AFD is so much farther back than a traditional binding. My Dalbello Lupos with GripWalk soles sit the same way.

    I donít think it...
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    This, especially in alpine sole situations when...

    This, especially in alpine sole situations when youíre only applying force to the front edge of the AFD. Itís odd to me that they were able to engineer a change in angle when adjusting up from...
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    I donít think weíve seen enough to justify that....

    I donít think weíve seen enough to justify that. This recent post seems to be the only full-blown pull out here. If I remember correctly the one previous was dubious as to whether or not the shop...
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    Quick AFD drop update: Went the route of...

    Quick AFD drop update: Went the route of adjusting upward until it was barely touching the sole and then turning another 1/4 or 1/2 turn until there was a tiny bit of resistance between the AFD and...
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    The Official Salomon S/Lab SHIFT MNC Thread -AMA

    I gotta think this has more to do with the fact that the two underfoot screws are responsible for taking 99% of the force that would cause a pull out. The front nub isn't always engaged depending on...
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    Great first true touring day in the Shifts...

    Great first true touring day in the Shifts yesterday. All together we ascended somewhere around 5000 or 6000 feet in the Tahoe backcountry. No break releases. Easy switches in and out of the risers....
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    That sounds about right. It happens any time you...

    That sounds about right. It happens any time you change the direction of the screw, which is kind of the only way to do it if you're adjusting to a gap. Glad they worked out for ya.
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    Found what I was looking for....

    Found what I was looking for. https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/314741-Grip-Walk-sole-dimensions/page3 post #58. Kryptons modded with GripWalk soles. Soles ground to fit Pivots with...
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    Yes and no. I think they're claiming this is the...

    Yes and no. I think they're claiming this is the first time they've used carbon-reinforced nylon on a binding, but they definitely aren't claiming that they invented that material. As I recall from...
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    Yeah, changeover time is probably pretty...

    Yeah, changeover time is probably pretty comparable. With both setups you're removing your skis, fiddling with something and locking back in. Pretty much a wash. You save about 130g with the Shift...
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    A. Bummer. B. There is likely no way you're...

    A. Bummer.
    B. There is likely no way you're getting a warranty replacement for a sold out product in under two weeks. I'd make a backup plan.
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    The Shift's AFDs are just that much farther back...

    The Shift's AFDs are just that much farther back than traditional bindings. My Lupo 130Cs line up the same way. Since those boots came out a season or two before the Shift, Dalbello couldn't have...
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    That would make sense to me as Iíve never used...

    That would make sense to me as Iíve never used Solly bindings prior to the Shifts.
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    This has actually been a pet peeve of mine, too,...

    This has actually been a pet peeve of mine, too, and I've had to resort to reaching down to individually pull on each brake arm in order to separate them before trying to pull my skis apart. WTF!?
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    I had a fun one a couple seasons ago. Came off a...

    I had a fun one a couple seasons ago. Came off a small cliff too far forward and went over the handlebars upon landing. One ski shot down to the bottom of the mountain while the other stayed...
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    FWIW Iíve been having the AFD drop problem, but...

    FWIW Iíve been having the AFD drop problem, but it hasnít affected the release characteristics as of yet. It seems like you just got a bum unit. Hopefully Solly gets you squared away with one that...
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    Before you get to the final lockout the plastic...

    Before you get to the final lockout the plastic lever flexes a little bit and kind of feels like it might break. I haven't seen anyone actually break theirs, though, so once you get over the mental...
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    I think weíre both saying the same thing. More...

    I think weíre both saying the same thing. More than likely itís a worm screw and a gear but either the gear or the screw is shaped such that it doesnít immediately re-engage when you reverse...
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    Thanks for the advice. One thought I had was that...

    Thanks for the advice. One thought I had was that it may have to do with how the AFD screw engages with the raise/lower mechanism. It seems like if you turn in one direction and then reverse to the...
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    I've been leaving mine in ski mode, mostly...

    I've been leaving mine in ski mode, mostly because less shit sticks out that way. They look less goofy. They do snap open pretty violently when switching from ski to walk, but I would bet that has...
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    Is anyone having problems with their AFD needing...

    Is anyone having problems with their AFD needing to be constantly readjusted upwards? My hope was that the Shifts could work for my 50/50 resort/backcountry setup, but after resort days, even without...
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    This hasn't been my experience with other jigs,...

    This hasn't been my experience with other jigs, and I actually give Salomon props for it. I find most Look and Marker jigs (the only other alpine bindings I've used) put the heel about 2/3 of the way...
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    The Official Salomon S/Lab SHIFT MNC Thread -AMA

    Toe placement drives where your boot centerline falls. If youíre mounting a 306mm boot with a 296mm template and then adjusting the heel an extra 10mm back on the track, your boot center on the...
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    The AFD can sort of stick in place as you adjust...

    The AFD can sort of stick in place as you adjust it, as if it is indexed at certain spots on the screw (itís not, but feels that way.) You will turn the screw three times and the AFD will barely...
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    A little more investigation into the AFD: At a...

    A little more investigation into the AFD:

    At a certain point while the AFD is being adjusted upward it will dramatically change from being flat-ish to being angled up toward the toe (the upward...
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    First day on snow with the Shifts inbounds at...

    First day on snow with the Shifts inbounds at Mammoth yesterday. Looking forward to getting them out on a tour soon. A couple of notes:

    They felt really good in the crud -just like an alpine...
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    The paper template, by all accounts here, puts...

    The paper template, by all accounts here, puts the heel pretty close to the center of the 30mm track. I moved the heel drilling points on my mount 10mm forward of the template, which put the heel...
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    Good on Salomon for this. In my experience,...

    Good on Salomon for this. In my experience, mainly with Look and Marker, their jigs do the opposite, and it drives me nuts. They always have noticeably more rearward adjustment, and it makes their...
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    That exact thing popped into my head as I was...

    That exact thing popped into my head as I was looking at them. The toepiece is so long compared with a traditional binding I really do think it would affect the ski's flex pattern if it was fixed all...
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    So I mounted my shifts last night, seemingly...

    So I mounted my shifts last night, seemingly without issue. I noticed this morning that I can see a sliver of light under the front part of the toes as if the front screw post thing wasn't in tight...
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    The Official Salomon S/Lab SHIFT MNC Thread -AMA

    That was it. Had the boot in at a screwy ramp angle. Thanks for the help.
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    So the paper should slide freely over the entire...

    So the paper should slide freely over the entire Teflon part? I can seem to get the AFD low enough for that. Is anyone else having this problem?
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    Did my test mount today. Template is spot on....

    Did my test mount today. Template is spot on. They only thing Iím unsure on is the AFD height. Dalbello boots/GripWalk sole. I seem to be at the bottom of the AFDís range (screw wonít turn anymore),...
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    The Official Salomon S/Lab SHIFT MNC Thread -AMA

    I donít think youíre installing correctly. The 30mm screws should not be visible once youíre finished. The 83mm you mention is the approximate distance between the 30mm and the 40mm screws before the...
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    Thanks Thom. I'm a self-mount virgin, so if I do...

    Thanks Thom. I'm a self-mount virgin, so if I do it myself in the interest of avoiding as many potential screw-ups as possible I'll probably just order a new one. Live and learn.
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    Thanks. Is it a pain in the ass if I ask the tech...

    Thanks. Is it a pain in the ass if I ask the tech to put the toe in the jig's normal spot but drill the heel 5mm forward of normal? I was planning on doing that for my mount. My boots have a...
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    For any shop techs or riders that have had a shop...

    For any shop techs or riders that have had a shop mount - Where does the heel end up on the track when you drill with the Salomon jig? I ordered the wrong size drill bit (FYI the new Bent Chetlers...
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    Double checking one thing as these will be my...

    Double checking one thing as these will be my first self-mount and I need to buy a drill bit (I no longer live near a shop I trust):

    Salomon recommends a 3.6mm x 9.5mm drill bit. Did you find any...
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    I can second that. I was considering a similar...

    I can second that. I was considering a similar remount a little while back and did an overlay of the paper templates. Assuming you're mounting for the same BSL the closest possible conflict is the...
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    How much do the Quickstep inserts protrude? Could...

    How much do the Quickstep inserts protrude? Could you just file them flush?
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    I hadn't thought of it that way. There's probably...

    I hadn't thought of it that way. There's probably some friction force from the front screw receptacle thing, too. The biggest potential issue I see is landing hard with your weight too far forward...
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    Many thanks. With as flimsy as that plastic piece...

    Many thanks. With as flimsy as that plastic piece is I can't imagine those screws are doing much more than keeping snow from getting under the AFD. I really doubt they're actually holding the binding...
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    I think a couple of online shops are selling just...

    I think a couple of online shops are selling just the brakes for around $100. Bummer to spend that much, but if the current brakes are that annoying it could be worth it.
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    For anyone that has done a test mount before...

    For anyone that has done a test mount before their final one, is there anything particular to know or watch out for when sliding the toe forward to reveal the back two screws? The piece of plastic...
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    That would line up with my measurement of the...

    That would line up with my measurement of the 120s and with what others are finding. +5-7mm no bending. +7-10mm minimal bending, if any. +10-20mm probably doable with a normal amount of bending.
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    Received my pair today with 120mm brakes. I'm not...

    Received my pair today with 120mm brakes. I'm not sure precisely how they'll sit once they're installed, but nudged to their widest natural position, the plastic ends measure approximately 127.5mm...
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