GT 194 out at Stevens pass. 15” in 48h, 4” in the last 12. Probably more Billy goat conditions, but I had to check em out.

Muh gawd, they float. The super long gradual rocker profile is really...

Maiden voyage for mine is tomorrow. Will report back.

I dunno. I see a ton of GT overlap. Kitty and train covers pretty much all conditions. Can’t see the CB playing nice at low tide.

Kitty and Amtrak

Late to this party.

Revolt 121s couldn’t really handle 115s…

Still need this? I think i can do this tomorrow.

Skeptical af. 130s can usually be had at your ski shop for $20 per pair

Most moments have a pretty big sweet spot. So the micro dissection of this decision is less necessary than with some other core TGR brands.

Deathwish at +1 rules. I’m always on something bigger on...

It’s hard not to love the DW112 as a fat all mountain or daily driver. It’s really balanced and shines in most conditions.

What a setup. I’m stoked for you.

You…probably don’t really need another setup. Unless you’re super active during volcano season. 90% of my touring is dwt/tecton

Is that GT a cold dead hands ski or is there a chance it hits gearswap?

Anyone run wildcat 101, dw112, and like a…ghost train? As an inbounds quiver?

I believe they were the stiffest skis core bros could buy that had indie cred and top sheets

Seems like a +1.69 scenario

What is the consensus on how far forward of the line you can go on the dw104? I love the frankenski in the park and when it’s mellow, but it always reminds me it has a speed limit (it is way higher...

Jdadour? Maybe? Had some 190 bibby tours for sale. Same (exceptionally great) ski

Punches above its weight and I definitely still wouldn’t do it in the PNW. Could probably get away with it in Japan, but then you’d need a bigger ski.

It’s awesome on tours. Good landing...

I still want a ghost train with the flat spot underfoot and triple camber. 126mm waist for the 194 I think?

Yeah. That sounds nice

Same. I am guessing without any actual runs on them that the countach is more like the commander than the wildcat. More charge bias, less play.

If you want that center mounted, the frankenski in a 182 is a pretty amazing low tide ride

Heh. I mean. Are you buying or selling? :P

Srsly though - best year, best size, best topsheet, best binding.

Maybe $600 total ($300 each?)
$250 skis, $250 bindings seems a screaming deal to...

Agree. My bent chet/shift is basically just an inbounds setup now. Have yet to sink the DWT/tecton setup

Beautiful setup.

And no, they aren’t touring Bibbys. These had an attempt at triple camber with a flat spot underfoot. A touch dodgy on the skin maybe, but dreamier in pow

Might sound weird or even worse on TGR - like bad skiing, but get off the front of your boot. Smearing only works if you're centered. Once you are, it works extremely well because of the flat/reverse...

Same. I think it's money there.

If low tide includes any park laps, go 184. If not, go 190

Center mount? Grab frankenski

Congrats. You won’t go back and forth anymore.

Sigh. Why do I read this thread when shit like this pops up? I don’t need these…but…

Yeah. I don’t need these

Those of you stuck in the wc108 tour vs deathwish tour…

My take is that there are many shortcomings that have been outlined in this thread about the 108 and 108 tour.

I’ve never read a single...

Yeah! Wanted to update the review.

A couple additions to my prior mini review.

The speed limit goes away when it’s a little warmer. Closing weekend this season, I was skiing these down groomers...

Also agree with the sentiments that the dwt is a great do it all touring ski. Exactly what I want for a daily BC setup. Predictable in any snow condition, capable in any snow condition. Never minded...

Yup. Agree with that

I still really like frankenskis. Dead center is just cherry. First time I’ve been out of the market for a skinny ski in a few seasons.

Clicked with the frankenski today. That was cool.

I’d be in. Love my old AF pbj. Don’t love my frankenski.

On that note I have a minimal use 182 20/21 frankenski w/ 1 mount that I’d move to an interested mag.

I have the 182 pbj which is now the wildcat 101 in a 184. Rode the 190 bibby for a while.

It’s dope. The 101 is so agile and easy.

Working mini review of the 182 2020-21 frankenski.

This thing is not a tank. It needs a precise centered stance (probably true of most center mounted skis) and kind of a light touch. With both of...

Just to be clear. The alpine style heel of the kingpin/tecton is SUPERIOR in your opinion? That’s what you’re saying?

Lightweight, engaged. Sturdy, blah blah voyager is good, but a tecton it is...

I need more time on my frankenskis. But I learned that I have no idea how to ski them in cut up pow. Had a great time landing switch off some old man rails. Feels like I have to ski groomers kind of...

Huh. Wonder what melee would say about that. More predictable fwd of the line perhaps? I’m at +0.5. Don’t think I would change. Put them there to make sure the nose would stay up in deep snow.
...

Checks out. Those of us near the line love the ski. Those that deviated further than 1cm are dissatisfied

Yes, I do ride park in my touring boots.
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Find myself wishing for a deathcat 101 w/ a tour core.

Is that a $1500 wish?

Edit: or maybe just do the praxis “-1” thing where the dwt is 102 underfoot.

Pics of the setup or it doesn’t exist

What is up with the tour layup and encouraging excessive speed?

One of many available opinions -

The deathwish is the best of the three.

And even though the wc108 is a damn nice ski...

It’s not close.

Line. Unless this is your fattest ski for deeper days. Presuming you have a fatter ski in the quiver.

Wildcat tour if you get to tour for pow. Deathwish if you spend time touring for snow that isn’t pow

Although if -2 is your jam on the Jeff 108...I’d go recommended or -1 at the most

Yup. I wouldn’t hesitate. Big sweet spot. I don’t feel like I need to at 170 lbs. tips floated up just fine.