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    Yeah, that could be. :) They are just so close to...

    Yeah, that could be. :) They are just so close to perfection imho. The underfoot backbone, more lively sidecut/flex and deeper rocker lines should make for killer skis. I know I love my k108s in...
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    Great - thanks! I've been seeking that kind of...

    Great - thanks! I've been seeking that kind of feedback. I've seen PowTron and Muggy stating that k116s are sweet one back, where I've been thinking either 1.5 or 2 back. The main "issue" this...
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    MHSP - a bummer! New skis are always fun though....

    MHSP - a bummer! New skis are always fun though.

    A couple of changes to the ON3P sections of my two quivers:

    In: stock 184 BGs (I followed Blister's advice to size uo (soory PowTron), with the...
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    Sticky: so which four? And couldn't you just do some...

    so which four?

    And couldn't you just do some remounting within the quiver? There shouldn't be any remounts that are no can do no? Sell the sollys, get some tectons - voila surely?

    and yes -...
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    sounds great! Glad to hear that they were a...

    sounds great! Glad to hear that they were a better match for how you like to ski. :)

    To be honest I must admit to being a bit surprised that there wasn't more intereset for the w114s, but oh well....
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    Iggy - do the in stock custom black/white BGs...

    Iggy - do the in stock custom black/white BGs w/eagle/wolves top sheets have glossy or matte/textured top sheets?
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    Some interesting bits on woodsman108s from...

    Some interesting bits on woodsman108s from Jonathan Ellsworth of Blister: "Strong like a wren, yet more centered and playful like a kartel. Could be a great comp ski." Color me intrigued.
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    Sticky: man, there has been a few killer quivers as of...

    man, there has been a few killer quivers as of late! What are those green ones detrusor?

    And agreed - that ATK/Tyrolia combo is killer! Color me impressed :)
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    Just imagine how mindnumbingly fast a custom...

    Just imagine how mindnumbingly fast a custom Wren96/108ti with a red top sheet will be. I do not know if I would have the balls to even try something like that.

    nice new blue/turqoise/yellow...
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    Great review VON. :) I do mirror the sentiment...

    Great review VON. :) I do mirror the sentiment that some skis can be too floaty in the rear, even that had nothing to do with why I did not click with my late BGs. :) I did me fall out of love with...
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    hm - so that is a bit strange. 4 posts up...

    hm - so that is a bit strange.

    4 posts up somebody says they are throwing away their 2019 skis due to them falling apart, and 4FRNT chimes in to build hype wrt 2020 products?

    All I can say is...
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    I say go for it - I think wren108s are absolutely...

    I say go for it - I think wren108s are absolutely awesome. I have just about 0% hesitation to recommend them to directional skiers who want an easy to ski charger with better fresh snow capability...
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    67.322%? In all honesty though, I do not...

    67.322%?

    In all honesty though, I do not know.

    My (very limited) experience with wren114s suggests that they will thrive in a narrower set of conditions than wren108s. Wren108s can easily be...
  14. will report back after some use - I hope to get...

    will report back after some use - I hope to get some use in over the next couple of weeks :) The plan is to replace my EXPs with the BMTs, and add the Mantras to the touring quiver - for a full four...
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    #wopsy 281440 Well, at least I have done my...

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    Well, at least I have done my part to thank Iggy for bringing the w114s into life. I decided on a whim that both my quivers needed to contain a pair :)

    I might still move on from...
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    :nonono2: Just read the thread, going backwards...

    :nonono2: Just read the thread, going backwards or think who of the posters in this thread that is the most likely to have provided the information you are seeking and look in their profiles...
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    Sticky: Agreed - killer quiver!

    Agreed - killer quiver!
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    they are a bit wider than your 110mm...

    they are a bit wider than your 110mm preference/requirement, but Blizzard Rustler 11s in 188 might be a good option as well. I have been really pleasantly surprised by my 180s - they really do a lot...
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    You sound like a prime candidate for...

    You sound like a prime candidate for Wrenegade114s too me. Nice price ones available here:

    https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/327598-ON3P-Spring-Cleaning-Skis-Bindings-Demos-etc
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    Woodsmans are live. SIZE SPECS ...

    Woodsmans are live.




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    Yeah, I really like their width, stiffness and...

    Yeah, I really like their width, stiffness and rocker profile, and I expect they do very, very well on icy groomers. I would def not mind owning a pair, especially for what I nearly got to buy them...
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    Holy crap. 279416 279418 279417 again -...

    Holy crap.
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    again - sorry for stealing your thunder from NS Iggy, but holy crap those look good. I have a feeling that filling up the custom slots over summer won't be much...
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    Yeah - that is in fact an issue when you have 10...

    Yeah - that is in fact an issue when you have 10 years filled to the brim with killer graphics. :) I know I would be very hard pressed to decide on which top to go with if a custom pair was planned....
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    Not that it detracts from your point, but the set...

    Not that it detracts from your point, but the set back on Wrens are size specific. 10.25 for the 189s, 9.25 for the 184s, prob 8.25 on 179s (have never measured, and Blister provided the two other) :)
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    sounds good - please keep us posted! The...

    sounds good - please keep us posted!

    The Ranger 102fr pretty much sounds like my ideal resort slayer mounted at +2 or +3 from the research I did earlier today. I first saw an amazing deal on them...
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    lots of solid advice in the thread! The insight...

    lots of solid advice in the thread! The insight on BGs suitability for the snow in your stomping ground seem like solid advice :)

    Agreed on Shifts/Tectons on the Rens - if possible mount wise -...
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    I really like it when the details and references...

    I really like it when the details and references in the graphics become apparent. If you check ON3P's insta one can see that the pattern on the new Jeffreys are stylized B-52s or some such, a pretty...
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    I think the three ski quiver you outline sounds...

    I think the three ski quiver you outline sounds very thought out, where each ski fulfills a very specific role and covers most conditions very, very well.

    Personally I feel that the BG vs Wren108...
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    oh my - so fresh and so clean! The Woodsman has...

    oh my - so fresh and so clean! The Woodsman has arrived in style!

    Can't wait for the specs. The coloring had me confused there for a micro second too ;)

    Gaijin - yes, ti as in titanal. The...
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    As TahoeJ say, they hold up pretty well for a lot...

    As TahoeJ say, they hold up pretty well for a lot of folks :)

    That being said - with Kartel108 in 191 being what the OP sport (assumtion bigger, heavier guy), a Cast setup would perhaps be the...
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    The new wrenegade108 ti should rail pretty hard -...

    The new wrenegade108 ti should rail pretty hard - as would a Wrenegade96ti, though I am guessing Woodsman108s might be a better fit with how you ski (assuming you ski more centred). I dunno if ON3P...
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    Man, you guys have done it again Iggy. A...

    Man, you guys have done it again Iggy.

    A daemon eating a man was a classy move for sure for going full on evil graphics ;) Jessies/Magnus/Jeffreys look like they will have one helluva on-snow...
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    BGs for the win - those look amazing imo! I...

    BGs for the win - those look amazing imo! I really like that it builds on this year's already stellar graphic, instead of going in a completely new direction (or BGs have been pretty consistent in...
  34. It sure seems like Q has excellent taste in skis...

    It sure seems like Q has excellent taste in skis ;)
  35. I am sure you've seen them, but there is a brand...

    I am sure you've seen them, but there is a brand new blem 174 wren96 pair above, that will run you 500 together with demo binders. Seems like one helluva deal by me at least :)
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    holy hell - that looked like a lot of fun! Thanks...

    holy hell - that looked like a lot of fun! Thanks for sharing. :)

    Steeple graphic = pure class too :)
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    nice! Nice green game you've got going there too...

    nice! Nice green game you've got going there too ;)

    For how soft the tips and tails are I agree - R11s sure ski solidly :)
  38. i dunno man. Like all other things it is a bit of...

    i dunno man. Like all other things it is a bit of a trade off. I dunno - I am probably talking out of my ass here.

    The main issue as I see it is that it is very difficult to compare apples to...
  39. Click on the link (it plays from the point of the...

    Click on the link (it plays from the point of the video when your question is partially answered):
    https://youtu.be/HdKfFcgukp4?t=124

    It is the same video that I posted on the previous page, that...
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    Perfection! Very, very appreciated! Thank you :)...

    Perfection! Very, very appreciated! Thank you :) The ability to zoom in and really appreciate the graphic is very welcome. They look amazing imo.

    I looked at a pair of that years C&Ds in a store...
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    the previews look pretty damned good thus far! ...

    the previews look pretty damned good thus far!

    Also, the spring cleaning also seems to be a success thus far. Fewer and fewer pairs remaining. :) Grab them while you can eh?
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    Dammit - those 179 BGs really speak to me. Alas,...

    Dammit - those 179 BGs really speak to me. Alas, re post #6679. I think.

    I continue to be impressed by you CS though Iggy - second to none!
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    I do not need new skis! I do not need new skis! I...

    I do not need new skis! I do not need new skis! I do not need new skis!

    Let's see if telling myself that works better this year than in years past... :)

    But for real, I do not need new skis....
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    Sticky: thanks - now that is the way to do a quiver...

    thanks - now that is the way to do a quiver presentation imho! The thoroughness is appreciated!

    Really like how you avoided overlap too ;) Seriously though - I really like how skis are bought for...
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    repost from the Woodsman 108 vs Wildcat 108...

    repost from the Woodsman 108 vs Wildcat 108 thread, for those of you that does not follow it:
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    Perhaps these are still up for grabs?...

    Perhaps these are still up for grabs?
    https://www.pugski.com/threads/moment-sierra-162cm-w-aaatack-13-demo.9785/
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    A quick de-rail since the OP seems well happy -...

    A quick de-rail since the OP seems well happy - does anybody have time on Rustler 11s and BC Animas and can compare the two real quick?

    I am a bit curious about Animas you see, so any insights...
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    Great post CallMeAl! Now I too wanna get me some...

    Great post CallMeAl! Now I too wanna get me some Woodsmans! That will be for the quiver consolidation of 2021 though ;)

    Or, should I not remount my K108s back two centimeters, sell them and get...
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    192s are bit wider, while still probably being...

    192s are bit wider, while still probably being plenty accesible due to the softer tips/tails on all Rustler11s. So if you like longer skis, want more float for powder days and you are a good skier...
  50. Poll: The geometries of the two skis are really quite...

    The geometries of the two skis are really quite similar. That is, a 181 kartel108 and 182 CT 3.0 will probably have a very, very similar mid part of the ski - the most important part of the skin,...
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