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    FWIW, when considering the entire population in...

    FWIW, when considering the entire population in an area urban BLM protests increased social distancing resulting in a net decrease of the spread of SARS2 relative to areas without protests. The most...
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    According to the source: it's bars. "People in...

    According to the source: it's bars.

    "People in their 20s now make up the largest age group of confirmed COVID-19 cases in Minnesota. That news comes after clusters of cases were tied to bars in...
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    Given what researchers have been saying for...

    Given what researchers have been saying for months after antibody surveys trickled in, Redfield's CDC statement doesn't really add any new information other than acknowledging a lot of people have...
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    When covid-19 deaths are analysed by age, America...

    When covid-19 deaths are analysed by age, America is an outlier. In America, people in their 80s account for less than half of all covid-19 deaths; people in their 40s, 50s and 60s, meanwhile,...
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    Cells derived from elective abortions have been...

    Cells derived from elective abortions have been used since the 1960s to manufacture vaccines, including current vaccines against rubella, chickenpox, hepatitis A, and shingles. They have also been...
  6. The quillette article makes some fair points. The...

    The quillette article makes some fair points. The argument, for example, that the anti-slavery movement in America dates to its founding is true because some states wanted to eliminate slavery even...
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    Prelimary results from a database of 1,100...

    Prelimary results from a database of 1,100 Covid-19 superspreading events from around the world:

    Nearly all SSEs in the database — more than 97% — took place indoors

    The great majority of SSEs...
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    If the results hold up, we could see death rates...

    If the results hold up, we could see death rates fall even faster than case rates.

    Unfortunately, there was no benefit in patients not needing respiratory support. Very good news, all the same.
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    ^ Yeah, when running or riding people have been...

    ^ Yeah, when running or riding people have been really good about giving other people room to pass on a trail but inevitably they give a loud boisterous greeting or if they have dogs with them they...
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    There was question asked earlier about whether...

    There was question asked earlier about whether masks creates a "false sense of security" causing people to let their guard down in other ways. A new study says seeing someone in a mask is a reminder...
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    A good graphic for how masks mitigate risk: ...

    A good graphic for how masks mitigate risk:

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    The Washington Post data is even more damning...

    The Washington Post data is even more damning than the Intentional Lethal Force Data. According to the Washington Post:

    Black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and...
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    Your article says, "the rate at which black...

    Your article says, "the rate at which black Americans are killed by police is more than twice as high as the rate for white Americans."

    According to the Intentional Lethal Force Data (Menifield &...
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    Where's the link to the article?

    Where's the link to the article?
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    Wait, what? According to your source: "Black...

    Wait, what? According to your source:

    "Black victims were significantly more likely to be unarmed than white or Hispanic victims. Black victims were also significantly less likely than whites to...
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    Frank Serpico, a cop who reported credible...

    Frank Serpico, a cop who reported credible evidence of widespread systematic police corruption back in the '60s, then got shot in the face in a possible police set up is still alive... and still mad...
  17. No need for the scare quotes Lee and Davis were...

    No need for the scare quotes Lee and Davis were either traitors who violated their oath or enemies of America who renounced their citizenship to join a mythical nation of slavery.

    It's as if an...
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    ^ Everywhere You Look Under Surging Stocks Is...

    ^ Everywhere You Look Under Surging Stocks Is Fervid Retail Buying:
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    Let my people go... but be better, really — Moses

    Let my people go... but be better, really — Moses
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    According to Morgan Stanley the epidemic is...

    According to Morgan Stanley the epidemic is slowly expanding nationally at a doubling rate of 60 days.

    Even though that's a big improvement, it's probably not enough to achieve confidence at an...
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    The WHO is saying it's rare for asymptomatic...

    The WHO is saying it's rare for asymptomatic people to spread the virus (a point of contention with no clear consensus) not that it's rare for presymptomatic people to spread the virus. At this point...
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    Yeah, "Defund the Police" is a bad message, bad...

    Yeah, "Defund the Police" is a bad message, bad idea and bad for communities, especially poor communities. Nuanced reform is always harder to pull off in the face of blunt talking points.
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    Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT): 330987

    Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT):

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    Yeah, I understood what you meant and I think the...

    Yeah, I understood what you meant and I think the answer to the masks in a closed environment where the disease is prevalent is similar to a health care setting. Masks under that scenario are less...
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    The link to the wiki source article no longer...

    The link to the wiki source article no longer works so it's not clear what role the state had at the time. Maybe the county was forced to take over by the state government

    According to the...
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    Camden, NJ disbanded its police force in 2013 and...

    Camden, NJ disbanded its police force in 2013 and things got a lot better. Camden is still a poor area and crime is still high but afterwards the murder and violent crime rate decreased while the...
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    ^ There are ecological studies showing masks...

    ^ There are ecological studies showing masks work. Those studies are less about physics and more about breaking the chain of transmission. Masks, social distancing (when possible) and hygiene slow...
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    Overall, the answer is yes it is a bad way to put...

    Overall, the answer is yes it is a bad way to put down protests. Much if not most of the time a large police presence pursuing discretion and deescalation achieves better results. A protect-and-serve...
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    The same can be said for protesters held in...

    The same can be said for protesters held in detention for 24-48hrs. Either give them masks or stop making so many arrests.

    Open-air transmissions are occurring but they are rare. Meanwhile...
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    Due to a “misclassification error” the official...

    Due to a “misclassification error” the official unemployment rate is likely 3% higher than the numbers reported yesterday:


    If this “misclassification error” had not occurred, the “overall...
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    No I don't think you are. Rather than focusing...

    No I don't think you are. Rather than focusing your time and energy on the Fed (assuming you actually care about these things and aren't talking your book) then worrying about fiscal and regulatory...
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    Modern nationalistic myths aside the collapse of...

    Modern nationalistic myths aside the collapse of Rome took about 500 years, or 50 decades.
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    It's something of Rorschach test deciding whether...

    It's something of Rorschach test deciding whether the other officer was trying to help or preparing to deliver a blow just in case. I saw it as trying to help but there are now 100s of videos showing...
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    The TGR crowd should be happy today. A full 10% ...

    The TGR crowd should be happy today. A full 10% of the net gain in jobs last month across the entire American economy applies to this demographic. The future is shiny and white:
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  35. Lee was a loser and a traitor. This thread is...

    Lee was a loser and a traitor. This thread is like asking why Benedict Arnold isn't venerated. Ridicule is what Lee deserves.
  36. A fair point generally speaking but the majority...

    A fair point generally speaking but the majority of confederate statues were erected during the Jim Crow era specifically to send a political message: Long live the Confederacy! The goal was to...
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    This is speculative and highly uncertain at this...

    This is speculative and highly uncertain at this point: genetic variation, dosage and cross immunity with other coronaviruses etc., some combination of which could mean the percentage of population...
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    Are you joking? Relying on the courts and juries...

    Are you joking? Relying on the courts and juries to redress wrongs is part of the problem because the police enjoy sweeping legal protection as key instruments of government. Reliance on miracles...
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    Might as well love the one you're with. A bigger...

    Might as well love the one you're with. A bigger problem is crowding 100s of people indoors in detention overnight.




    WRT the trawler discussion, it's a floating meat packing plant. A humid...
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    It's a big concern coming from the econ/science...

    It's a big concern coming from the econ/science sources I follow and I've heard a lot of mayors pleading with protesters to self quarantine. My hope is that it's mostly young people mingling with...
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    Yeah, it puts to rest the fatalistic notion the...

    Yeah, it puts to rest the fatalistic notion the virus is everywhere and uncontrollable. Avoid closed spaces, crowds, close contacts or when that's not possible wear a mask:

    "The infectiousness of...
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    With a 1600CFM or more fan blowing outdoors...

    With a 1600CFM or more fan blowing outdoors you're probably safe. The risk is not from inhaling a single virus filled droplet but from inhaling a lot of droplets. A fan blowing outdoors will dilute...
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    Yeah, that's the best educated guess. Exposure to...

    Yeah, that's the best educated guess. Exposure to high doses would explain why young healthy health care workers died from the virus. The problem, statistically speaking, is it's difficult to test...
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    Currently there's no way to quantify what the...

    Currently there's no way to quantify what the threshold is but a higher dose is clearly worse. The number of infected people matters, proximity matters, timing matters, and aiflow whether indoors or...
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    Deebz attempting to turn the absence of evidence...

    Deebz attempting to turn the absence of evidence into a man bites dog story. A half-witted jellyfish could make a better point.


    At the time Mofro, iceman, and others had good laugh at deebs...
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    ^ Spot on, the rojo and deebz deliberate strategy...

    ^ Spot on, the rojo and deebz deliberate strategy plainly stated is to “Flood the zone with shit.”


    On the off chance anyone cares: in response to Deebs post above, he purposely left out the...
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    Awesome that they showed up, messed up that they...

    Awesome that they showed up, messed up that they had to.



    Heh, it's not all horses and buggies.

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    Things are messed up when conservative pious...

    Things are messed up when conservative pious Amish-Mennonite-ChurchOfGod groups show up to protest:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qud7ptrxOVg
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    lol @ reality. Election year partisan re-framing...

    lol @ reality. Election year partisan re-framing means ignoring Taiwan, Hong Kong, S Korea, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and so on, along with ignoring the fact that stay at home orders were...
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    ^ Also, many people assume the ratio of old to...

    ^ Also, many people assume the ratio of old to young affected by COVID is static. As people adapt to circumstance, and higher-risk people take more precautions, while lower risk people relax their...
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