Gortex for the lift and softshell/neo for the BC,
2 different types of exertion, 2 different types of gear. Also consider that the best designs and companies will be using the appropriate fabric

Well like I said gortex drysuits do keep me and the bro's prettty dry, certainly dryer than a cheaper coated nylon suit or I would be buying them for sure, I wear HH rubber gear working in the bush...

out to lunch is such a harsh term Guido

"water proof" is a continuim with soft shell on one end and rubberized helly hansen on the other end

As for gortex on the extreme end of things in a 100% wet environment I have a gortex dry suit...

Which IME is a anaerobic activity followed by sitting on a wet chair for 15 min So then go gore

I have arcterxy pants and jacket for the lifts but my favorite lift jacket and the one everyone at...

I have found the face fabric of Neo tends to "candyfloss" which might be the price you pay to have a more breathable fabric

So when it does its time to get a shave you fucking hippie ... so go...

Last summer I took my delamed pants into Arcterxy headquarters and got a full credit so IMO wait for summer send it in BUT they gotta be clean and in good shape ...not WORNOUT!

Neoshell is more water resistant than shoeller or windstopper but its still just a soft shell so while it breathes better than gortex for touring, I wouldn't use Neo for riding a chair and I...

still the best for what?

for ift riding YES, I use gortex and lots layers but for touring soft shell pants in windstopper and lately a marmot neoshell has been my favorite which is working good