My timeline is next spring or summer, so I'm at least hoping things stay steady right now. But a down turn wouldn't make me unhappy.
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My timeline is next spring or summer, so I'm at least hoping things stay steady right now. But a down turn wouldn't make me unhappy.
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Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
I don't understand how this has any effect on housing starts.
The developer needs to sell units in order to be able to self finance the next phase. Uncertainty in many different things including politics makes people understandably defensive, especially when it comes to investing their own $$$.
Byates has a big van.. Plenty of room for 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mofro261
I'll take the wife for a night here and there.
I'm seeing Candlelight Meadow condos that were going for up to 1.2 million are now being priced under 900k and still dropping. And it seems like sellers are having to compete as there are multiple units for sale. I'm curious to see how busy (or not) the resort is this year. Will you be there? Got a pass?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
I bought the green pass, absolute least I could spend and still get in a bunch of days. With my Boyne Bucks I was all in for about 440 of my $$$.
I will pay day rate for the tram for the 10 or so days I want to deal with it. With the new MLB chair I can enjoy skiing that side again.
Darth Powell has a good doom blog. Excellent riffs on selfish boomers
“Another way of putting this, Boomers have no idea why they have money at all.
That it was stolen from younger generations.”
Check out Darth Powell on X.
Wish not for an easy life, but rather, the strength to endure a hard one. https://x.com/VladTheInflator
Just ran into my neighbor (surveyor for the biggest engineering firm in the area) he says he has seen a slowing in terms of staking out sites, he is psyched. Also 1 house similar to mine just sold in here for 800K, fuckers don't even have trout fishing in their back yard.
2 other houses are about to go up for sale both to the north of me, be interesting to see what they bring. I am in no hurry to pull up stakes just yet. Biggest bummer is they were both good neighbors (1 is a Mag) and the President and VP of the HOA.
Buddy of mine is helping his mom list her place on 40 acres about 10 minutes from Steamboat Springs. (His dad just died.) Cannot be subdivided. They've been there 30 years. Great views apparently. Curious to see what they get for it. She's going to move into a condo in town.
[QUOTE=Bunion 2020;7108439Before the last slow down the 1st signs were in that high end market as well, the fabulously wealthy seem to know when the wheels are about to fall off.[/QUOTE]
I was working for The Club at Spanish Peaks in 2007-2008 and remember the wheels falling off in ‘08. I think we sold something like 100 units (lots, condos, specs) in 2007 and had something like 2 sales in 2008. Stock market crashed in September and shit rolled downhill from there. It was like the Illuminati knew ahead of time and us regular folks were left holding the bag. Learned a lot since then (hopefully).
Damn. Ranch property? Rich billionaires frothing right nowQuote:
Originally Posted by yeahman
DOM coming down in the last couple weeks. Sale to List price ratio tightening up. Pull back on rates in the last week or so. More and more higher dollar stuff going under contract quickly. July is always a bit slow anyway.
Just let me know when....we'd be sad to see you go though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
Could be 2 years could be 20. I like where I live in spite of all the bitching that goes with it.
That sounds like something I would say. Love CA but all the retards in this country try my patience some days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
Neighbor bought her house in 2020 for 1.4M.
Put it on the market July 28 for 2.295M, offer accepted July 30.
But what is she going to buy? The equity is nice but where to buy for less?
Tennessee
No kidding, my uncle moved out there for affordability and got two or three times the house he could have bought in Oregon.Quote:
Originally Posted by byates1
Which is fine, if you never leave the house.
And there are a whole *host* of very good reasons for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by dan_pdx
Amen to that, he really didn't want to go out there, and it doesn't sound like he's very happy, but his new wife is from Memphis and they straight up couldn't afford to stay in Oregon. My uncle and my dad grew up in Memphis, and I've visited a bunch of times (including Graceland haha). As they say, it's a fine place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live thereQuote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
and don't care about what rights you and your family have.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
I lived there from when I was about 8 until 13 1966-70. Local relatives were assholes, got shit on for being a Yankee (born in NC????). From what I recall, not moving back anytime. Lived near enough to Graceland that we used to climb over the 12' fence and wander the grounds until security would chase us off, still have a scar from that fence. Saw the King a couple of times driving around town.Quote:
Originally Posted by dan_pdx
Tennessee: southern gentility masking an abnormally violent state that usually ranks top 5 in murder, rape and aggravated assault. Seriously folks, despite its friendly public image, the real Tennessee is a place where you always lock your doors at night and everyone genuinely believes they need to have a gun to defend their house.
sounds adventure
I feel like thats true for some locations but not others. Same goes for most of the south. Either way, I sure as hell aint moving (back) there.Quote:
Originally Posted by neckdeep
I have no idea. I've never had a neighbor so closed off and weird. I told her about trees on our property line, leaning towards her automatic gate, coordinated with her and another neighbor to get the trees cut down. Within a week she has listed her house without a word.Quote:
Originally Posted by liv2ski
It's pretty nice here, quiet, remote. Nothing within walking distance, but great biking and wildlife. In the last 10 years it's gotten noticeably hotter and drier, but it's still relatively cool most of the time.
I have a client who sold their house in MT and is slowly in the process of moving to TN. Honestly can't image it. I mean I get it from a $ standpoint and there are some pretty places in TN, but damn it's also kinda hood and scary.
All stereotypes are my definition false.
That said, I also know quite a few people from Grand County that have "cashed out" and moved to TN. Part of the allure is that they people enjoy their perceived status, power and so on. They tend to be the same people that resist and resent the percieved changes to the mountain west over the last three decade.
They are looking for a chasing a reset where there generally older whiteness puts them a few rungs higher on the social ladder.
Also no income tax.
Some time ago, my mom made a surprise move from Newport Beach CA to EBF Missouri, cost of housing and living in general was the (stated) reason. It mystified me and my brothers, but very soon after the move she was diagnosed with dementia.
Just sayin’
Pretty similar to the folks moving from California to Idaho, or Texas. They cash out their beatup 4bd 2bath from 1988 for 1.5million, can buy a nice new-build on an acre or two for half that, and then can live high on the hog and enjoy feeling rich with status. Its small/medium fish wanting to move out of their big pond so they can be the big fish in a new small pond.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
High COLA are only worth it if you utilize and appreciate the reasons for the high COLA- typically culture (art, food, live entertainment), weather, and recreation access. If all you really want to do is eat at chain restaurants, play golf, bass fish, and watch college football in a air conditioned new-build then there is no good reason to live in a high COLA area. Nothing wrong with that, just not for me. Yet.
my socialist ski bud who rode a recumbent down the eastern seaboard to Tierra del fuego told me " as soon as we got across the mexican border i felt safe "
Got this from my Redfin agent:
I wanted to give you a quick update on what these changes could mean for you:
For Sellers:
Starting August 17, the buyer's agent fee will no longer be allowed to be shown on most MLSs. This means that buyer's agent compensation will likely become part of the offer negotiation more often.
Sellers can still choose to offer compensation to buyers' agents as part of their marketing strategy, outside of the MLS.
Buyers might ask you to cover their agent's fee in their offer, and you can negotiate from there.
For Buyers:
Buyers will agree to their agent's fee before touring any homes. These agreements will also make it clear that agent compensation is negotiable.
perfectQuote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
honestly I see the burn out leave factor all the time there are lots of reasons for it
the number of people who want to eat at chain restaurants golf fish watch hours and hours of sports and get upset when the ac clunks out and they have to open a window and maybe be hot blows my mind
the number of people dumping thousands and thousands of dollars into outdoor living space and air conditioning in a home at 10,000 ft proves we are fucked
Doesn't Summit County have chain stores? I mean I know there is a Target and Lows in Trailerthorne. Its basically the Kremmling Mall.
Yeah, outdoor TVs, fireplaces and heaters on the North Facing deck. It's be College Football Season and they'll have the six panel stacking slider open, fireplaces and heat blasting, sweaters on, EVs in the driveway. I had one customer where the husband wasn't even interested in visiting the property until the TVs were hooked up playing the Golf Channel.
We've been talking the the salesmen (lumber, doors and windows, cabinetry, flooring and so on) talk about things slowing down the established local contractor say busy as ever. We think the shit bags on the margin and going back where they can from because the easy money is up.
Dude, you are behind the times. It has now been christened "CondoThorne". All the trailers are gone, those are in Breck ironically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
Yeah, but you can still get the lunch special at La Perla and head W on 70. Which has been the primary purpose Slummit has served for 30years.
Hungry Ute>La Perla
Normal Trough>70
https://www.steamboatpilot.com/opini...rings-anymore/ (open incognito if you hit a paywall/data mine)
This is the fabricated class war @fastfred talks about. The ski town papers are full of these raging mic drop don't let the door hit you in the ass letters.
Bro, you may not want to be replaced, but you are replaceable. Lived in 7 states guy with his 4 year roots!
Generally speaking, the Ski Resorts actually put there money where there mouth is and building (or subsidise) housing for their employees. The same can't be said for The School Districts, Local Municipalities, Locally Owned Business and so on. They just deploy to struggling workers to do their dirty work. And we get Housing Programs to keep it all on life support paid for by....the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?