pretty sure westchester is in connecticut….
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pretty sure westchester is in connecticut….
fact.
There is a huge difference between Verplank and Danbury.Quote:
Originally Posted by m2711c
But Mount Vernon, New Rochelle, and Yonkers are still in the Bronx. Curiously, Pelham is in the Bronx too, but Pelham Manor is in Connecticut. Pelham Bay is in Sicily.
Pardon me, does anyone have a link to the Upstate thread?
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In 2 weeks or so I start the pilgrimage to the almighty upstate. Land of immense taxation.
Ya skiing Huntah?
Ha. Only skied it once. Was a Wyndham guy in college. Easier to point it north on 87 to the ADK.
Hope to ski plattekill, the Silverton of the Catskills.
I rode a red plastic sled down BristolQuote:
Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
Sadly, no run down mountain towns or hill towns even on the list.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/drea...153047851.html
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Places across the US offer cash, homes, and other perks to lure remote workers and other relocators.
Insider rounded up the states, cities, and towns that will reward you to move there in some way.
The requirements to claim the incentives vary from full-time residency to a real-estate purchase.
Remote work and the search for housing that's affordable have permanently reshaped where people live — and cities across the US are noticing.
A number of places are offering new residents big incentives, like cash or free land.
^^Those towns should be thanking their lucky stars they AREN'T being targeted by remote workers. Fools.
Please elaborate.Quote:
Originally Posted by yeahman
Seriously? You are completely unaware of what's going on in places like Montana due to the influx of remote workers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Name Redacted
If you have to promote and pay people to move to one of those towns, then maybe they aren't all that great. Most of the places on the list have remote work requirements probably because there are no jobs in those places. They are looking for higher net income earners for the tax revenue.
But maybe Kansas doesn’t view these folks as a negative like Montana does.Quote:
Originally Posted by yeahman
Seriously - there are a lot of Midwestern towns in which *death* of the town is the main threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Name Redacted
And it's primarily because these places suck.
That was Montana 10-20 years ago. With all the natural resource jobs disappearing everybody thought people working "over the Internet" were going to be the savior of the state's economy. And for awhile it was okay. Then covid kicked the migration into overdrive and now people working remotely has proven to be the ruination of a really cool place where young people used to be able to move with nothing and live cheaply and live a great life enjoying the mountains and rivers--paying the "scenery tax" because high paying jobs were rare. Now real estate values are through the roof and my own kids will never be able to afford to buy a house or live where they grew up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Name Redacted
So these towns better be careful what they wish for is all I'm saying.
Climate is going to make Montana even more desirable over the next 50 years as well... used to be the prospect of the horrific winters was enough to deter a lot of people.Quote:
Originally Posted by yeahman
I don't think these small towns have much to worry about. There's not a lot of attraction to these places, which is why they are having to pay people to move there. Other than maybe the two college towns mentioned for Purdue and WVA.
Bingo!Quote:
Originally Posted by Toadman
75% of Montana is Kansas with a different last name. There are still eastern Montana dumps nobody wants to live in.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
but goddamn, living in sone place like summit co Colorado with all the moron remote workers and the moron parasites cashing in? Fuck that. You need to shower to wash off that asshole more than after a Jersey Shore Friday night
The industry or the local factory leaves town and then there is nothing to support these places. Maine is a good example. There were lots of small factory towns and when the manufacturing went over seas the towns dried up. Shoe manufacturing jobs in particular. Now all that is left is empty downtowns and meth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toadman
I've been to both places, and I will take the a-hole stench of Summit Co. over the Jersey Shore at least 6 months out of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by dunfree
I'm 95% sure I walked through this place over the summer when it was about 67% complete. No way this house would have gone for more than maybe $750k pre-COVID. It's crazy what they are asking for new construction in Bend.
https://www.redfin.com/OR/Bend/1185-...90eXBlPTMmej0w
Hey if a WFH family wants to repopulate the midwest instead of the more desirable locations then thats one less group of people standing in line at your local Bozeman Starbucks. I don’t have a problem with them or anyone repopulating the plains. Maybe they’ll change the voting habits there too. The more we can spread people out the better.
Girl, don't even get me started. I spent the better half of a decade trying to find husband material in Summit County. The WORST jackass was a remote worker moron. Even the disabled line cook who admitted to a murder on our first date was better company.Quote:
Originally Posted by dunfree
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Well, there you have it. Summit Co sucks because they admit murder Jersey Shore knows to lie.
Idk why he dropped that bomb on me, man. We were having a great time closing down Coppertop and getting ready to take it to Mulligans for dinner. Moron.Quote:
Originally Posted by dunfree
I says, "I'm going to the bathroom" and high tail it to the parking lot bus like, "Drive! I got a murderer behind me!" And then high tailed it back to Denver with one bare foot and one ski boot. An experience I will never soon forget.
Ugh, what a nightmare first date. So glad I'm not single anymore! [emoji849]
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So what? This completely misses the point. And it's a myth anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by dunfree
There are agents already marketing this to texassicans. I think it's just awesome - you play a big part in ruining the climate, it makes your home inhabitable, so why not move north where there's still water and it's not yet too hot to live. Yee Haw, lots of real estate agents (and property owners) in New Mexico and Colorado made millions off of 'em over the last thirty or forty years, why not get some of that filthy lucre?Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
https://billings.craigslist.org/reo/...679817739.html
dunfree and I are moving in together, with his poor credit and bench warrants it's time for a change. Luckily this gem is right up our alley.
We look forward to hosting many of you to the yet undiscovered ski mecca of Forsythe.
97703 has the most expensive real estate in OR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toadman
No Shit!? I would have thought some swanky zip code in Lake Oswego.Quote:
Originally Posted by TBS
No. It is not not true. And no. Some people do want to live there. But there is more affordable real estate in places like NW MT, NW CO and all over WY, ID, UT and elsewhere in the intermountain west.Quote:
Originally Posted by yeahman
But they tend to be far aware from skiing and living wage jobs. I don't know what the solution is but it sucks for those not on the property ladder. Here in Grand County, USA we have gone from having an affordable housing problem to a straight housing problem. Homes start at $1million and condos about $500k plus high HOAs.
The ski area just said "fuck it" and build a +/- 300 unit hotel for staff. I think this winter will be interesting. I know of service businesses that are massively understaffed. The service levels are going to be disgustingly low.
We will see. The "I bought a house in the mountains but I couldn't park at the ski area, the lift lines were redic, we couldn't find anywhere to eat, the grocery was out of food and it took 4 hours to drive home" story must get old eventually.
That's interesting but what would be really interesting would be a state by state breakdown of every zip code in each state. Then we could really target the affordable areas, invest there, and make them unaffordable asap. That's the American way.Quote:
Originally Posted by TBS
And you guys are naive if you don't believe these so called less desirable areas will be targeted by the WFH crowd. First wave of WFH took over desirable areas, next wave will invade less desirable, then third tier desirable, and so on down the line. It is inevitable that these still affordable places be ruined. Talk to me in twenty years.
I don't disagree with your path for where the WFH'rs will live but your doomsday scenario is only one version of the future. Things to consider:
are the WFH wages sustainable relative to IRL wages or will the laptop class be turned into the next non-living wage industry?
Is a virtual economy even the future?
I mean if, in 20years, places like Havre, Evaston and Wendover have the same lack of affordability as the sexy places of today I think the housing market is going to be the least of our worries.
Don't forget Wells, Nevada.
The WFH boom is already dropping off. Many newer or hipper tech and tech adjacent companies are calling back their super lax policies. Employees not able to be 100% remote. Must be in the office 2-3 days a week etc. There are people who moved here 2 years ago from Austin/San Jose/etc who are not allowed to be fully remote anymore.
That being said the cat is out of the bag so to speak and yes there is a crazy number of remote workers now. I really really don't see a time where techie remote workers are going to want to live in Wibaux or similar.
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In the mountains, it rolls downhill...or should I say down valley.
The equity has to go somewhere. And people have to live somewhere also.
The awesome HCL places are only awesome is you can afford the HCL.
At some point, a place on the lake in Kansas with a funded 401k, a bit of cheese in the bank and a good night's sleep that comes from not freaking out about money starts to look enticing.
The machine will figure out how to exchange a living wage for corporate profits in the WFH industries. Nobody is insulated from that.
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