Can’t they all just go to Castle Rock?Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
Win-Win!
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Can’t they all just go to Castle Rock?Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
Win-Win!
Sherriffs in places like Jackson, WY are known to buy one-way bus tickets for homeless people to go to SLC. And they openly admit it with a shrug of their shoulders, saying SLC has the resources to help homeless and their town does not.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
Problem solved!!
Shhh, smug mountain town people don’t like to admit that.
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It wouldn’t surprise me…but I have never heard anyone go on the record saying it has happened. That said, we have absolutely zero homeless infrastructure, just a rescue mission which is sort of a different deal. We also really have zero homeless that stick around for more than a month without a job.Quote:
Originally Posted by muted reborn
There are lots of house-less workers, though.
We did have one homeless lady named Rosie for a few years.
“We”? Did y’all keep her like a pet?
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Lol, she was crazy, but harmless. And yes, the community looked after her. She was offered housing repeatedly, not interested. She lived under a bridge by the then new Smith’s all winter. Even in 30-40 below temps.
Curiously, she would go to California in the summer, IIRC.
Odd.
To many tourists in the summer, even mountain town homeless don’t like tourists.
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Can’t blame her in the least.
https://www.jhnewsandguide.com/news/...c7662a3b3.html
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Hmm. So, not sure what is supposed to be done with someone who refuses drug/alcohol testing for a bed?
I really don't have an answer.
So it's like mutual exchange? SLC gets the homeless and Jackson gets the IKON refuges.
I’ll take the psycho alcoholics.
Wait a second…uhhh….
Never mind
Nah I still got my place just out past the golf course. Got it for $20k in 2008.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
It is too small for septic field and well so the price was right.
Could probable sell for $150k now to a cash buyer as it is not mortgageable . ALMOST dumped it last year but then didn't. Now never gonna. Waiting for them to run a gondola down there to Zobnick Rd (ie my front door... lol).
But seriously Id like to put a real house on it in the next 5 years... just need the $10k for a well and $50k for 'special engineered septic'
go with one of them poop incineratoratin' types 'o toilet and save yerself 'bout $35000 on a shitter.
Even Bozeman has it's own homeless street of dreams over by the Costco.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
It's a state and federal issue that is largely used as a political cudgel. At the rate we are going our national homeless strategy is going to be just keep them all housed by shuttling them from location to location in a whirl of petty political revenge.
People are quick to forget that the reason there are 100 layers of bureaucracy and misplaced priorities is because there are these pesky little things called laws that conjured all those layers of accountability and reporting and prioritization into being.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
I think this is the marketing Kevo's talking about that is buoying demand for Colorado Real Estate. I mean who would want to spend $79/day to be part of this scene! https://www.tixr.com/groups/ramblepr...gle-2023-55816
Does it come with a curated sticker pack for the rocket box?
Mountains Please
The Silverton Triangle
Mad River Ski it if you can
Keep Tahoe Blue
what else?
https://media.giphy.com/media/WGvwSV...bzcT/giphy.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
How is the Eagle Block Party a bad thing?
Two days of music, beer and food for $260 is chump change. Do you even Taylor Swift?
Anyone go the OpenDoor route? They've offered 92-95% of some of the neighborhood comparables. With a queue of repairs and upgrades to make the casa "desirable", there's some intrigue.
For me? Its not even a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
I just found it representative of Colorado marketing that came up a bit ago. It's just so stereotypically mountainy.
It's just what summer in Colorado has become for the somewhat monies masses.
I'm sure the Realtors will be there doing their thing..."imagine not have to drive back the the front range, relaxing in your condo overlooking the eagle, catching up on emails, maybe even "hoping on a call for a bit", then fuckin off for the rest of the day bike riding, fishing, getting a bit of a chub realizing that you have made it and you are better than everyone else?...only 3 units left!"
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Well, Devil’s Advocate observation, are they wrong? :FIREdevil
ah yes the place on Regina which I remember cuz it rhymes with Vagina, I visited you at the Carpathian ski factory, it was a dark and stormy night so the walls of the " living shed " were moving around a bitQuote:
Originally Posted by carpathian
edit: is that the town or the regional district ?
didnt you also live in a cozy place on the corner of Alfred & Queen ?
#live your dream!
I've spend parts of probably the last 10 summers working on a large condo complex in Fraser that is an absolutely shit box subject to a multi million dollar constructions defect settlement. They are a good customer that pays well for my carpentry services.
I see a pretty good cross section of property owners and renters. One dream is another man's nightmare. The new to town crowd just can't wipe the smiles of their faces Monday morning. They emerge onto their decks looking at the mountains with their lap tops and airpods.
They are fucking winning! The absolutely is part of the real estate demand. People geographic flexibility has/is created a demographic shift to places people want to live from places that have to live.
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Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
Which one is that?
Any any word yet on wtf is going to happen with that Grand Park mixed retail building that has been sitting as a stalled project for years? Heard that concrete froze and there was a dispute on what to do next...true?
If not all of them...almost all of them. The larger multi-family complexes tend to be pretty low quality around here.Quote:
Which one is that?
Its gonna get knocked the fuck down at some point but the owner is in no hurry. I'm pretty sure its all up to the lawyers at this point.Quote:
Any any word yet on wtf is going to happen with that Grand Park mixed retail building
In case the $1,500 per square foot listing in Victor wasn't high enough for your, realtors here are now pricing shit at $1,800 per square foot.
This particular property is being flipped by the subsidiary of a local country club that successfully sells $4 million houses directly under the RNAV approach to the airport where large jets routinely fly at 500 feet AGL.
I fully expected the "Neckdeep Hypothesis" to play out (AirBnB owners get burned by carrying costs and flood the market with inventory), but so far my bearish outlook on local real estate has been completely incorrect.
Granted, it is 41+ acres. But yeah…
Back in ‘97 they couldn’t sell 20 acre parcels in Tetonia for $60k.
Where is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevo
The cheap side of the Tetons
And you get an AG exemption!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevo
https://goo.gl/maps/3x4iAQMx1MyKQNS29Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
Here's the approach plate- https://flightaware.com/resources/ai...PS)+RWY+04/pdf
And here's a $3.8mm house that is inside the DIVVE waypoint, less than .8 nautical miles from the end of Runway 4.
The RNAV calls for a 3.5% glideslope for the last several waypoints and to cross the runway threshold at 40 feet AGL. Back of the napkin math puts aircraft following the RNAV at roughly 200 feet AGL when they pass over this neighborhood.
And none of the shop/garage space is counted as sf. And it mentions irrigation rights- water rights are worth a lot depending on what they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
All in all, there are a lot of reasons why $/sf isn't a very useful metric in a large number of cases. Works OK in a cookie cutter suburb but very rarely in mountain towns.
Lol at DIVVE. 3.5 is pretty steep for a jet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevo
All sorts of wtf there. I've been to Driggs. It did not strike me as a 3.8 mil town (pre-pandemic). Maybe up toward the ghee, but a few blocks off Main? A guy I used to know moved from Bellingham to Driggs/Victor because it was too unaffordable here!
The guy who gets flown in on a biz jet is not supposed to be the guy living under its flight path.
The runway is way too close to neighborhoods. Major WTF at the airport and how it is managed. The city is getting hit with a huge bill to move the runway after people in and around said neighborhood complained. Turns out the existing runway placement doesn't have a legal runway protection zone. https://buckrail.com/city-of-driggs-...reed-memorial/Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
RE: the RNAV- the airport is too close to the Tetons/ Targhee for an RNAV on RWY 22, so RWY 4 is the only option for an instrument approach. Runway 22 also happens to be the designated calm wind runway and the prevailing wind direction, so that is the runway that local pilots use most often. 22 has a published right hand traffic pattern to keep air traffic away from downtown. Most airports have left hand traffic patterns. The RNAV for runway 4 drops pretty steeply over the Big Holes (mountains to the west of town). Biz jets on IFR clearance get basically to the crest of those mountains (VICUP waypoint) before they can reliably make radio calls on CTAF. It is very common to have one or more small planes flying right traffic pattern on 22 when a jet on the RNAV for 4 comes in hot through VICUP, 10.5 miles from the airport.
The good jet pilots will quickly realize that there are planes in the pattern for 22 and will immediately sidestep left to set up for a kinda high workload right traffic visual approach to 22 while communicating with traffic in the pattern. In order to do this you'd need to have done a little bit of homework to research the runway and traffic patterns well in advance, like you're supposed to.
The bad jet pilots announce a 10 mile final, continue to follow their pre-programmed RNAV approach, sometimes all the way down to the runway, while other pilots flying a 22 pattern try to communicate with them. The other planes in the pattern have to break off their approaches to not die.
Other bad jet pilots will sidestep to the right and set up for a left traffic visual approach to 22 because they just assume that there is a left traffic pattern for 22. The causes several problems- the valley is tighter to the south, which means tighter turns to avoid hitting the Tetons and a higher workload and it also exposes traffic in the correct right traffic pattern for potential mid air, head on collisions with the left traffic pattern jet.
Some of the biz jet pilots are fractional ownership jet service/ jet rental service pilots that are used to towered airports and seem to have forgotten how to make CTAF radio calls.
I think everyone who flies out of that airport has a story about having some kind of conflict or near miss with a jet on the RNAV for 4 while they are flying 22.
It's a total shitshow, especially around holidays.
Last thing re: Bellingham vs Driggs prices- somehow houses that were $500kish in that particular neighborhood in 2019 are now north of $3mm. It really defies logic- there are nicer neighborhoods with better views, nicer golf courses, etc but the prices in the neighborhood directly under the approach to the airport are for some reason 2x the prices of the better locations. Is it money laundering? Or a great sales team? I really don't know.
It's rich tools from out of state who plan flip the $3m house for $6m in a couple years. The new "Look-at-Me!" people, who think its normal to drive their porsche coupe in the middle of the winter to get groceries. The assclowns who all go to the same trailheads and the same crowded boat ramps.. A bunch of fucking lemmings, in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevo
Pretty sure the feds are subsidizing most of the major airport work via FAA grants. Hence why the city ignored the petition to put a weight limit on Aircraft at the airport. Had that been successful all FAA funding would have disappeared. Municipal budgets in the country are pretty fuckered. Past mismanagement combined with inflation and Idaho's budgeting laws are a lose/lose for residents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevo
NYT noticed that housing is tough in Summit County. I guess they should've read this thread a while back. (Share link should bypass pay wall)
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/17/b...smid=url-share
True capitalism at work in a mountain town.Quote:
Originally Posted by anotherVTskibum