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The "I know what's best for this place" dirt pimps, politicians, business owner an such becoming less mentally and physically invested sending there kids to school in the front range, buying houses in Costa Rica, attending meetings remotely and generally cashing checks and exiting stage left...is that new?
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not really. And FWIW, if you really think "buyers don’t pay RE agent commissions" I got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. They don't pay it directly out of pocket, but they sure as hell pay it as baked into the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcphee
Yeah, AI is writing a lot of listing descriptions. Turns out it's quite adept at bullshit.
As for the 6%, it's down to 5 for most listings in my overheated town.
As for selling ones own house and pocketing the commission, there's a metric shit-ton of data showing that FISBOs leave money on the table. Usually more than what they would've paid an agent. And that's not even taking the value your time into account.
mcphee needs to bone up on tax incidence:Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_incidence
Two of my personal favorites:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevo
The kid with Down's calling all the customers Puta's with no idea what it meant.
Another time I was in line behind a very attractive J1. The cashier engaged asking where she was from, turns out Russia, where he did his mission. He spent god knows how telling her about how his mission got ruined by some fellow missionaries who got kidnapped and what a shithole her home was and how shitty the people were etc. He was about halfway through checking her groceries out and she just walked out of the store. It was hilarious.
I stopped by the Shelley Broulims the other day in a pinch. Prices were much less expensive and produce way better.
Ha, would love to hear Djongo’s Jackson version of thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
I suspect that is in large part because people tend to think they know as much or more than the agents. And not only do they probably not, they also probably don't do all the work necessary to get top dollar than an agent might. For my one sale, I think I could have made it pay out slightly to do it FSBO (if we ignore the hesitancy that other agents might have dealing with a FSBO) but it would have entailed a lot of time and brain damage to do so. And I was VERY tuned into what the market would bear for my house. So even though my agent kind of sucked, I don't regret hiring an agent (I just regret hiring him).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
A very good agent I used back in the day said " see this book of MLS listings that # in the corner is the commission, to myself and all the other agents that is THE most important thing we check, if you really want to sell fast offer 1000$ to the agent who brings you the buyer but if I sell it your don't have to pay the 1K " she sold my house in 3 weeks to some clients looking at town houses they weren't even looking for a house BUT I didn't have to pay
my ski bro who built the Hankin/ evelyn BC project was a sucessful agent he told me 20 % of the agents write 70 % of the deals, after all is said & done the agent ends up with 1/8th of the commmission, I don't know how he ended up with a fraction but he had a grade 10 educaton
Mitzvoh, my old friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by neckdeep
Sounds fishy as hell, but can't say I'm surprised.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
Well, that's two more years than Ricky.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
Typically, the "listing" and "selling" (buyer's) agents split the commission, and then have to pay out their managing brokers/offices. So that's four ways. Add that some agents have a team (basically one agent with a few working under their umbrella) so if co-listed with a junior agent there would be an additional split.
Two recents from me:Quote:
Originally Posted by snapt
My wife was getting rung up with her groceries and the last thing on the belt was a bottle of wine. The cashier was too young to ring it up so my wife knows he'll have to find someone else to ring it up. But he asks her if she still wants it, of course she is like, yeah, I want it. He immediately grabs a towel from underneath the register and uses it to pick up the wine like it's something dirty, and then runs several lanes over and stashes it somewhere. By the time he finds someone who will scan it, they have to go looking for it, all while she's standing there with a line built up behind her.
A couple of weeks ago I'm checking out and they ask for my phone number and I give them my wife's number since she is the one in the rewards system or whatever. He proceeds to tell me I don't look like a Martinez and doesn't think I'm a Mexican. His next line is about how he would handle someone who was breaking into his home?
I'm always a little excited for the trip just to see what they will say.
Can we get back to the Broulim's humor? My friends usually shop it Rexburg but I pay the premium for the laughs.
Bonus for Jackson/TV friction. I saw some chick unload on a bro from Jackson at the 4way in Victor with a legendary, "take your flat brim, WY plates and attitude back to the tram line" type of rant.
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Nice ZZZ! I always find it hilarious that my All State everything friend has 3 blond boys and could totally pass for Mo. I'm pretty sure it's part of his game and how he gets along with everyone.
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Been there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
And people tend to think they know as much or more about flying than I do. Same goes for mechanics. Hell, same goes for doctors with the "own research" crowd, smh.
There's a human shield aspect to both sides being represented too. No weird creep showing their own property, no "your house is a dump" insults, etc.
"Just imagine... this dump could be YOURS!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
:D
Heading to the bank in a few to pick up a fat check from the people every one hates
Trying to figure out what to buy for my van w all this dope money
My w from home partner was having internet issues yesterday she just got back from one wacked country and now they want assign her to an even more messed up place so she can exploit that place
The short term rental is no bother other than the guy from Iowa who wanted to be my bro and gave me six unopened things of brats and steak last week
Trails out my door gondola down the street
Been smoking bowls and pretending to work
You wonder why prices are so high for real estate
It made sense to me that if I am offering 1k extra to the agent who brings a buyer more money grubbing agents with more buyers will show up to get that 1K so I would have been OK paying it and besides it would only be 500$ cuz I would be splitting it with the ex-wifeQuote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
Ya ski bro's point was that people whine about the big commission but with the splitting of commission/ 1000$ a month for office fees/ gas & a vehical/ advertising any/all incidental shit,
1/8 of all those big commissions was what he figured he actualy ended up with at the end of the year
figured he had learned enogh by grade 10, he didnt waste time on education, and he was smart enough to build a ski area out of nothing with no money
Everyday I would meet someone who had bought a copy of PC magazine, I usually had no idea what they were talking about and neither did theyQuote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
The stoner tax is real! The 90s ski town vibe was unreal. Oh...your order, we forgot about that...sorry. He's a shot, hang tight...yeah no charge.
We will see how it shakes out. I'll be here one way or the other.
There will be about 10 houses (new builds and old) in my subdivision of 50ish units. I'll keep you updated.
In the meantime I'll be selectively overcharging as I see fit.
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I definitely did not know as much about real estate as my agent did, though I did know as much or more about pricing of my house in my neighborhood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
But the human shield piece cannot be overstated, that is part of why it was worth it.
Did you read my post? Of course the seller is the one paying the commissions. But how is hiring a buyer's agent and not getting a 3% price reduction still not costing you 3%? nickwm21 asked if anyone has bought or sold without an agent so I shared my experience. Carry on.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcphee
Exactly, that's why when I've paid 1% to get it listed on the MLS, I still offered 3% to the buyer's agent. It's their fiduciary responsibility to get their client the best price on the best house that meets their needs, but many agents will go with the deals that appear easiest to close and where they make the most commission. I've also had listing agents want to list a house for 10% less than I wanted (to make it quick and painless for them) but I insisted and still got full price.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
Huh, so not all Boulims are a rip off and not all have terrible produce? That's good to know. So much of the food in the Driggs grocery store is expired or close to expired. The produce is also so, so bad. I try to buy produce at Barrels and Bins- quality is 10x and if you buy in season stuff it is often cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by snapt
All of this sounds par for the course. My GF is half Japanese and one time when she gave her phone number and her last name came up the cashier started talking to her in fluent Japanese. My GF's family hasn't spoken Japanese in over 100 years so she had no idea what he was saying, but it was quite impressive TBH.Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
I can't imagine trying to sell Mormon doctrine to Japanese people in Japan in the age of internet. Talk about swimming up river...
ZZZ, that's hilariously wtf.
The Jackson/TV friction is pretty amusing, albeit stupid as fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
We were floating the Teton a few weeks ago and pulled over for a bit. This broad with a poorly trained dog and a thick bro/brah accent comes around the bend and almost immediately asks where we're from as the dog is running all over people's shit. There were like 3 or 4 different answers to that question but she keys in on Jackson and remarks something snide like, "Woah, pretty rare to see those people over on this side." Little does she know 3 people in the group grew up in Targhee town lol. When we bounced the question back she said she was from somewhere else but living in TV for the summer. Fucking classic.
The assumptions that get made about people around here with nothing to back it up and the weight some people put on wearing their "local" card cracks me up. IME the first people to tell you they're a local are the ones who've lived here 0-5 years and have no meaningful involvement in the community.
On Broulims... the one in Idaho Falls actually isn't too bad. The produce section definitely sounds better than the one in Driggs. Though was never impressed with their meat selection, Albertsons was way better. And yea, expired food on the shelves all the time.
Speak for yourself. Gen X'er here and I was pulling weeds for my great-grandfather before I turned 10. Helped him pick cotton, too. And swap the pecan trees with a broom and gather them up in buckets. Sometimes he would give me a shiny silver dollar. Been pulling weeds all my life, it's quite satisfying. Now I pick mainly aspen shoots. Over and over and over.Quote:
Originally Posted by fastfred
Sounds like the morning glory 'round these parts. That shit is the DEVIL. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jax
Super cringy to break out the Japanese. Does he also assume that everyone named Kowalski speaks Polish and everyone named Dubois speaks French?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevo
Do agents actually owe a fiduciary duty to their clients in every state? If so, how do they get away with recommending those shitty home inspectors that never have anything bad to say?Quote:
Originally Posted by Red7
Yea, I realized my high-ass made a reading comp and bot detection fail, came on here to delete and danno had quoted my fail. Post is deleted and I’m glad driving without a seatbelt has worked out so well for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red7
I believe the proper local'd retort to Broulims anecdotes is:Quote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
"I shopped at Hillman's for years. We were better off without supermarket sushi...all these cocksuckers from California wouldn't have moved here if they still had to shop at Hillman's."
I still have a few Hillman’s shopping baskets…
Damn, everyone hating on Broulims. Grocery stores in Ogden must be pretty bad because my wife and I think Broulims is nice.
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My latest market observations:
There are literally 3 houses in Girdwood for sale right now , $1.2, $1.3 and $1.5m
Zero raw lots
Big Island: prices coming down , pretty much everything price reduced . $1.3 down to $1m
$100k lot down to $90 etc
I’m about to finish my house there $150k to build pure sweat equity hopefully still in high 500 range when done , cash refi , snag a cheap lot repeat …
And then I just looked at Smithers , looks steady , still high but quite a few listings on market
What you see xxx?
If I could throw $150k at my lot , drill well build house etc could be in $600k range … someday
Broulim’s is a LOT nicer than the King Scooper’s in Golden!
And way better than Hillman’s was, in reality.
just here to help stoke the city suburban divide between mountain town residents
name your hate WFH STR people who got in on the game early 2nd homeowners
everyone I mean everyone deserves a ski in ski out walk to the bar housing for 250 a month
today is full of suck
I just ate a bag of cheese curds for brunch
I seem to remember you quit the RE market here, got out at a good time, I havent looked that closely but I think its down at least 10% from the high of a year ago but yeah more listingsQuote:
Originally Posted by carpathian
my son just closed on 5 acres/ big house in PG he kept losing out on sales in that 700K class he finally snagged a good one his starter home sold in 5 days but it all sounded pretty stressful
More often than not they ask for an ID when purchasing Olive oil or La Croix. Always makes em chuckle.Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
King Soopers in Golden was my go to for staples for years. King Soopers was reasonably priced and never had expired food on the shelves. I'd argue that they were generally much better than Broulims.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
I would usually try to buy produce and dairy products down the street at Natural Grocers. Natural Grocers was by far my favorite grocery store in Golden. Their produce was incredible and they had a solid selection of adventure snacks (stuff that you'd take out on a run or bike ride). I did a lot of shopping there.