I honestly couldn’t care less if life was easier or harder a few decades ago. If we can do things to make peoples lives better today, then we should do them.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcphee
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I honestly couldn’t care less if life was easier or harder a few decades ago. If we can do things to make peoples lives better today, then we should do them.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcphee
In college in CO nearly everyone who was in to mountain sports was out of state while the born and raised CO kids were mainly into the Broncos and city stuff. I know several people here born and raised in Bozeman and Sun Valley who never venture into the mountains. The pendulum swings back and forth. These mountain towns are filled with go getter, driven, Eastcoasters and Midwesterners. The people who grew up out West are generally more lazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcphee
I didn't grow up out west, but I'm "generally more lazy."Quote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
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If you dont have to bootstrap, good for you to win that lottery (whether youre born with immense talent or immense wealth). If you dont want to pull hard on those bootstraps, then maybe lower your expectations for what you expect out of this life. We would all benefit from being happy at less than ideal. If you dont have immense talent/wealth, but want the ideal, then get used to working harder and smarter than the next guy/gal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
For folks with kids in college there is a pretty basic "trick" to making it more affordable. Mass canvassing of scholarship applications. I spent the final week or two of my summer and winter breaks just mass applying to scholarships from my college, city, county, state, wherever. Didnt matter if i qualified academically or it was for the right major. Didnt matter if it was for $100/semester. Didnt matter i applied. At one point my senior year i held like 15 scholarships, most were small $100-500/semester, and a small handful i technically didnt qualify for. I found that no one really mass applies for scholarships and that some must go unawarded every year- I assume because people think only the larger scholarships are worth their time to apply for, but those little ones and ones with odd qualifications are easier to get awarded. Over 4 years they add up.
Fuel to the fire of this tangented forum:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S46iJIk3t70
Man, this forum has gotten old. Boomers, boomers everywhere.
Labels vs labels. Tribalism. All that crap. Step away from the computer and take your kids with you boys. Mail your kids off to a foreign land. Please. Maybe theyll stay there.
^^^This dude has major nerd vibes.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcphee
^i meant that as if those were their only hobbies. Party on otherwise
Cool blog bro. Keep on regaling us with your tales of how you walked uphill in the snow barefoot to school when you were a young'un. :rolleyes2Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
Yes. When my youngest went to his UC school I looked at the instate qualifications and it was exactly as you referenced above. Insurance was a big one and having zero financial support. It could have been done, sure, but we didn't need to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevo
I member when this thread was about real estate and not a buncha dudes arguing about kids going to school in other states.
I’m curious about this. Ours went up 30% or so. Not sure how to feel about the assessed value.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tips^Up
I’ve appealed in the past with no luck. I might not know the tricks though.
Well to bring it all back around, a member of our school board argued the reason for subsidized housing was such that this favorite restaurants could stay open more hours and that his college aged child could afford a house here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Name Redacted
What else? Why Valuation increase 35% which seems inline or perhaps a bit favorable based on comps.
There seems to be unlimited demand for 3 or 4 bed/3ba around here including duplex's for about $1mill with 3 bed condos at about $750k. Older construction is devalued a bit by the deferred maintenance and outdated finished. The further up valley equals more money.
You tell me if this is affordable https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...6_M93785-91165 I'm not sure what the monthly fees are but it certainly checks some boxes.
Is it Bootstraps or Entitled if I'm working this weekend? I did take Thursday afternoon off to go ski but it's looking like I probably won't make the camping trip on Memorial Day with the families with the campers living in subsidized housing.
Have we talked about quality of construction and what you get for your money? It's a joke. I used to say that houses don't just fall down but a few actually are falling down.
Oh my rental property in Denver went up 27% so a larger percentage increase in the mountains. That passes the sniff test for me.
Interesting picks, not sure how alike they are. Laramie and GJ have tremendous recreational opportunities. Des Moines, not so sure. I couldn't live there but I could live in the other 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
For those kids (their parents are my age) the only parallel is that the went there for school (due to relative affordability), stayed for the relative affordability, come back there to hang out, go skiing and such and explain to me that a big part of the reason they are happy versus peers that made different choices is that they don't feel crushed by bills or expectations.
There are no right answers but I would be more happy (primarily for mental health reasons) by living comfortably somewhere less cool than here than feeling a bit squeezed in a premium location. So when I think about enjoying life and how fucking expensive it is around here and see what financial hardship (real or perceived, good choices or not), I see the appeal of other places.
I ride a lot in GJT/Fruita - housing is def cheaper, but has blown up lately too - I wonder if wages are proportionately lower there? I know of some folks live who there, work here and gotos during the work week.
new assessed values, 60-100% increases. and sadly, appraisals support it (might actually support more)
I moved to Montrose from SLC in large part due to the affordability while still having decent access to recreation.
It is definitely blowing up here though. My assessment increased 40% since 2020.
Yeah Foggy, I hear you, life could be easy elsewhere. But there's no way I could live in Iowa no matter how cheap it is. I'll cash out someday and GJ is on the list, just not the short one. Too hot for me, but almost everywhere is.
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A tough one about some places that are cheap is that I wouldn’t really vibe with any of the people there. Both politically and socially I fit in much better in a bigger city, and I like the diversity that comes with it (one of the issues I have with Portland and the mountain west compared to like DC or Philly or even parts of the Bay Area)
I'm in the same boat. TBH - still below fair market value and I had a long run with it being waaaay below value. I dunno.Quote:
Originally Posted by stapes
I had a work colleague that retired a few years back and moved to Galesburg, IL from metro Denver. Small college town, cheap real estate, on the train line to Chicago/O'Hare for travel. He is a progressive soul, and has seemed to find things to his liking there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supermoon
It's worth a thought, eh? :D
Agreed. Tho - maybe I could use an Iowa as a cheap homebase in the US to return from foreign travel and then launch again to roam stateside.Quote:
Originally Posted by goldenboy
Getting into a weird spot where my life period is pulling me to crave predictability and stability... but I can't override my built in lust for exploration. I live in place I love... been here a while. But things invariably change and got enough life under the ol' belt to notice it. And maybe bothered by it - attachment and all that. No country for old men I guess. Trying to figure out what to do - another big life adventure? Or secure that anchor and line it all up to keep on, keepin on?
What I can say is... I don't have the time or energy for a fixer-upper community. Those kids moving to Laramie and the like - hell yeah, lean into it and make it even better. They got the time and sweat equity if you will. You always read about ppl wanting great areas, great access, solid community.... for cheap! Lol. That's never been the case - if you want a turn key community, you gotta pay for it - someone else already did that and brought the value. If you want it cheap, find a place that is well located but lacks the rest. Now get to work making it great; hopefully you can be part of a critical mass of like minded ppl all pitching in.
Damn he can get the train all the way out there? You are almost further away from Chicago than Madison.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
Last October I took my wife back to Wisconsin with me and she was blown away, but I had to remind her that January exists on Lake Michigan and it’s a whole different animal.
So yeah. You don’t like family. And you have no friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by muted reborn
This tracks.Quote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
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It's on the main Amtrak line west, IIRC. Apparently works well for getting to O'Hare. I can't speak to it with any 1st hand knowledge, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supermoon
Ha. Wife and I are both from IL. Different parts. But during the middle of Covid I kept looking at property on Zillow around Galesburg and half joking we should sell our place in CO and move back there. Acreage, etc. There’s enough outdoor opps in that area and a days drive to keep me busy. But then I’d remember the humidity…Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
Edit: I’m wrong. It was Galena I was looking at….but I’ve taken that Amtrak from Galesburg to Denver once.
Yep very similar. I was definitely below fair market for a few years. In fact I think I fucked myself by appealing one year. Idk what to think.Quote:
Originally Posted by CarlMega
TipsUp I may shoot you a PM.
No, your friend is full of shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
It would take half a day to get to ORD from Galesburg via Amtrak, which is pretty much a shithole.
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Other than tax implications, I can't tell what else the number does? if you sell you get an appraisal anyway, it's not like anyone would use the assessor's number to negotiate?Quote:
Originally Posted by stapes
I called them to ask how they determined the increase to that number - something about comparable sales in the area and square footage and what they thought it was worth in june 2022. Didn't seem like an appeal was something I'd win.
Not really sure where to put this picture so I'll put it here, seems somewhat relevant
https://scontent-den4-1.xx.fbcdn.net...jg&oe=6466E22C
Funny that Galesburg popped up in this thread. Spent a lot of holidays there and a part of a summer at my grandfather's farm growing up. Was back for a funeral right before Covid and the downtown area has really blown up. 2-3 breweries, new restaurants, some great dive bars, and a small college-town vibe (Knox). Could never live there but everyone is typical midwest friendly and the bass fishing kicks ass. The old homes are still affordable: https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...1_M72943-74231
That Denver picture really sets the tone for real estate investment after a town wins a Super Bowl.
Back when going to El Chapultepec was dangerous.
Now you can't go there at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by mud
Went to being out in the boonies to across the street from Coors Field.
At least Lions Liar is still around.
And Herb's.Quote:
Originally Posted by mud
Favorite Denver Dive Bar?
Don's Mixed Drinks
Candlelight
The 'Pus
The place near Pete's on Colfax
I've forgotten so many
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Mmmm... Pete's Kitchen at 2:30am... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles