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Shit, my dog costs $50 a day to board him at the doggy daycare. A nanny taking on two rotten crotch fruit should cost twice that. Fucking whiny breeders. It don’t take a village, it takes two responsible adults who don’t put their needs for neat hiking trails over the needs of their children to have childcare.
1982 was 40 years ago bud.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
That seems a little harsh. I assume since Covid that a lack of child care spots is much more of an issue than it was a few years ago. Some families probably moved to those towns prior to Covid when there was care available and then lost it. We personally had that happen during covid, but luckily our kids were aging out if it anyway, and we were working from home, so it wasn’t a massive burden on us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Name Redacted
(And yes, I should have considered the lack of spots before making my snarky comment about paying $50/hr for child care.)
M3s didn’t exist in 1982.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoooR
(maybe read through the entire thread before replying ;))
Pretending that childcare availability and affordability ain't a crisis in this country is just that -- pretending. The US Treasury department has explicility said it's a broken market: https://home.treasury.gov/system/fil...9-14-final.pdf . Families aren't served well, employees don't make a living wage, and no one is getting rich.Quote:
Originally Posted by Name Redacted
Whether you have kids or not, future of the places we live depends on them.
It has nothing to do with two people who wanted to move to Summit co. It's a statewide and national problem. We have approximately 30% of the available licensed child care for kids under the age of 3 that we need in all of Colorado.
Honestly -- at least in the case of CO -- relatively few child care slots declined year over year in Colorado during the pandemic. Yes -- some centers closed, but some opened. There was a fuckton of money floated to facilities to make that happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
This isn't to say it didn't happen anywhere. But on a per-county basis in CO, only a couple of counties lost slots year over year between 2019 and 2021.
For the family in question -- I'd put good money on their ability to find a slot for their 4 year old. It's the infants and todds that are super hard to find. Let alone a center that has availability for both.
Source: I was deeply involved at the state level in childcare for about a decade -- and was responsible for producing those statistics.
2 kids. One is 5 and the other just turned 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
I have had many conversations with senior mgmt. at well known international companies, and they are all complaining that the employees with kids don't want to commute back to work. The number one complaint is the cost of daycare. Most of these companies have gone to a 3 day in office, 2 days WFH, and employees are balking at that.Quote:
Originally Posted by doebedoe
Kids ruin everything
It says that they easily found quality childcare down on the front range. They just can’t find it where they want to live. And bought a $1M+ home without researching. Then a nanny wasn’t good enough and too expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by doebedoe
It's not an accident that the largest federal subsidy program for child care is designed as a work support program (e.g. it's premise is to keep folks in the labor pool.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Toadman
It just doesn't pay enough to providers to participate and its funding is about 1/10th of what it needs to be if it were going to make care "affordable" (typically represented as 8% of income) for all families with kids.
The vast vast majority of childcare is paid for by the slot. That is -- you pay for every weekday whether you use it or not. Otherwise, the biz models of child cares breaks down as they can't make payroll and provide consistent staffing. So if a family needs it 2 or 3 days a week, it's just as costly as 5 unless you find a center with unusually flexible rates/scheduling.
So families shouldn't be able to live in the mountains? Or just families shouldn't be allowed to migrate there? Is it an unreasonable expectation that basic social necessities be available in a county with over 30,000 people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Name Redacted
The problem of child care availability is a systemic problem in the US. We can shit on individuals decisions all we want, but that doesn't change that we need more childcare in mtn resort communities.
Never said that. But maybe you should check into that kinda stuff before you move here. You know they knew there was a Whole Foods and a brewery with hazy ipas. Why didn’t they know childcare was a challenge?Quote:
Originally Posted by doebedoe
QFTQuote:
Originally Posted by simple
Personally, my favorite part is that they then turn around and short term the place. They could rent long term- you know, to someone who might be a child care provider (or teacher, nurse, waitstaff, or dishwasher). Then they wonder why they can't find daycare, or why their favorite restaurant is only open 5 nights a week.
Very little sympathy for those who know what mega pass they’re going to buy before they know who is going to watch their kids.
yupQuote:
Originally Posted by Name Redacted
thats why mtn town people are so privileged cause every thing should be easy and you just snap your fingers and get what you want specially when you have money to buy the 1mil plus house ski pass cars nice job that pays well
I' posted the article cause that sums up what all us mtn people are like
not only child care but cheap easy housing should be available to all
whenyou don't get what you want cheap and easy you blame wfh short terms rich people on and on so easy to blame other people instead of pullin yourself up by the bootstraps
and if you had a job that was actualpart of the community here in summit county the local gov't does a great job subsidizing that child care
it's even better every year some jack ass starts railing about those subsidies and handouts so people can have free child care
the d bag doesn't realize they are the people mowing his lawn cleaning the scum out of his hot tub waiting tables plowing his roads that are getting a break on the costs
Are they privileged or being taken advantage of by the system? The richest most productive system so far.
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people are like everywhere now Freddy, the assumption of the last decade is everything can be ubered and things just magically appear. It’s way more that so in cities than mountain townsQuote:
Originally Posted by fastfred
, Long term rentals are still $4-8+k a month...(we rent our Victor house for $1800, nice FS family)
Good on ya for that. I'm a believer in karma.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
Dude, we ever cross paths, drinks are on me.Quote:
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Originally Posted by yeahman
Same here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper
My parents own a home with an ADU and were renting both out to "locals" (nurse) below market rate. Then the nosy ass neighbor Karen started harassing them (called the cops a few times and snooped around their house because she didn't like them parking on the street in front of her house) and since you can't rent both units (HOA rules) one unit is currently sitting empty. I park my shitty car in front of that bitches place everyday, because fuck her.
I didn't read the article but I assume it's a typical zoomer family. That said childcare is a bitch and especially so through Covid, even if they are in normal public schools. I guess I should have looked into it more when I moved here eleven years ago and didn't foresee a global pandemic. :rolleyes2
Hindsight is 20/20.
I think Benny's comment should have been in the "Shit that annoys you" thread. Curious, was he ban or self imploded?