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08-25-2022, 12:59 PM
Toadman

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Originally Posted by rideit

Haha, we had it custom built last summer. Had a shit contractor though, and it leaks like a sieve. It was built with interlocking, snap together decking boards that are supposed to create a waterproof ceiling for the dried in, concrete walled space underneath. But our guy was a hack, and didn’t do them right. We are already 50-60k into it. Just hoping someone can fix the leaks without actually having to tear down and rebuild. It’s way more than a few tubes of caulk.
I thought we should have taken the guy to small claims last year, but he (was) one of my wife’s clients, small town, blah, blah…

Have you tried Flex Seal? Liquid rubber in a can, it's got to be good.
08-25-2022, 01:12 PM
Core Shot

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Originally Posted by Danno

Hah, flat roof in snow country. Anyone remember this?

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Bears replace Ditka?? How foolish.
08-25-2022, 01:42 PM
Ted Striker

"Klan leader blasts judge"

The more things change, the more they stay the same.
08-25-2022, 01:55 PM
dan_pdx

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Originally Posted by Ted Striker

"Klan leader blasts judge"

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Yeah, but doesn't blocking no. 2 constitute cruel and unusual punishment?
08-25-2022, 02:07 PM
rideit

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Originally Posted by AdironRider

The reality is a flat surface over dried in space is going to leak in a Jackson Hole environment. Definitely not for 50k. But they are none the less all the rage.

At least you didn’t spend 5 million for a flat roof modern joint New West is throwing up everywhere. Those all leak too.

Well, most of it has a very non-flat roof. And it was supposed to be built with a 2 degree downslope, they failed on that.. what’s the statute of limitations on contractor fuck-ups?
08-25-2022, 02:18 PM
AdironRider

I assume you have some sort of contract? Your recourse would be outlined there. I'd be very surprised if it was longer than 6 months to a year, and decks might be excluded.
08-25-2022, 02:22 PM
Whiteroom_Guardian

When I did property management in the YC my boss refused to take any clients with flat roofs. So stupid unless you are in AZ or something.
08-25-2022, 02:51 PM
fastfred

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Originally Posted by rideit

Well, most of it has a very non-flat roof. And it was supposed to be built with a 2 degree downslope, they failed on that.. what’s the statute of limitations on contractor fuck-ups?

about a month and half or as long as it takes them to close up shop rebrand and start over again
08-25-2022, 03:12 PM
Supermoon

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Originally Posted by dan_pdx

Yeah, but doesn't blocking no. 2 constitute cruel and unusual punishment?

Not if it’s done via fondue party
08-25-2022, 04:25 PM
skaredshtles

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Originally Posted by Supermoon

Not if it’s done via fondue party

Am I going to need to look this up on Urban Dictionary? 'Cause I don't wanna do that. :nonono2: :D
08-25-2022, 04:33 PM
J. Barron DeJong

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Originally Posted by skaredshtles

Am I going to need to look this up on Urban Dictionary? 'Cause I don't wanna do that. :nonono2: :D

Just head over to the nearest Melting Pot location and in 24-48 hours you’ll have a clearer understanding.
08-25-2022, 04:55 PM
skaredshtles

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Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong

Just head over to the nearest Melting Pot location and in 24-48 hours you’ll have a clearer understanding.

I have a Melting Pot about 4 miles down the road... not sure, at this point, I want to know what all this is about. :D
08-25-2022, 04:59 PM
fastfred

I googled it
now I am clearing my browzing history
and now I know things I don't really want or need to know
08-25-2022, 05:40 PM
Supermoon

Ah shit. I meant the Melting Pot kind not whatever internet shit got Fred on some watch list.
08-25-2022, 06:30 PM
dan_pdx

At this point I'm torn between wondering what Fred saw and thinking it's better if I never know.
08-25-2022, 06:37 PM
XXX-er

we had a typwriter (the ELT) which we called the FRED

which was an acronym for Fucking Ridiculous Electronic Device

It was piece of shit that would blow itself into pieces of plastic
08-25-2022, 07:00 PM
fastfred

thanks for the laughs gentlmen
needed that after wanting to punch an electircian in the face at 630 on a thrusday evening

where and why people come up with the things they do in life to get off we are all very unique people in each of our own ways
08-25-2022, 07:10 PM
Meadow Skipper

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian

When I did property management in the YC my boss refused to take any clients with flat roofs. So stupid unless you are in AZ or something.

Or New Mexico, and we get snow. It’s a thing here, and roof repair outfits do not lack business.
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Picture of downtown Santa Fe, stolen.
08-25-2022, 11:49 PM
neufox47

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Originally Posted by rideit

Well, most of it has a very non-flat roof. And it was supposed to be built with a 2 degree downslope, they failed on that.. what’s the statute of limitations on contractor fuck-ups?

https://wiki.theclm.org/wiki/441

A while. Regardless of what the contract says, you may have recourse. I’m no attorney. #thanksregulation
08-26-2022, 01:23 AM
Conundrum

Depends on the state and most contracts you should sign say "as allowable by jurisdiction of the project". Your neighbor to the west allows six years. Not sure for WY. And a lot of times the contracts favors the prime so it may depend on what you signed unless you have a high dollar attorney. If it's leaking, I'd try to find damage from leakage outside the contractors work and file an insurance claim. The adjusters will assign fault which sets precedence for faulty work. That is if your contractor carried appropriate insurance. The claim will most likely have a "your work" exclusion so it won't pay for the deck but at least if you sue, you'll have expert witnesses pointing a finger and you didn't have to pay for them.
08-26-2022, 10:02 AM
dan_pdx

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Originally Posted by fastfred

where and why people come up with the things they do in life to get off we are all very unique people in each of our own ways

Friday morning dose of wisdom right there.
08-26-2022, 12:22 PM
rideit

Sounds like we don’t have any recourse with the ‘contractor’, as we fired him when it was clear he was incompetent. We hired someone else to finish up some aspects, (and withheld that amount from the original ‘contractor’) but we didn’t know about the leaking until much later.
08-26-2022, 05:32 PM
AK47bp

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Originally Posted by Ted Striker

"Klan leader blasts judge"

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Fuckin Ditka got replaced by a coordinator!?

Dammit

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08-27-2022, 06:47 AM
Foggy_Goggles

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Originally Posted by rideit

Sounds like we don’t have any recourse with the ‘contractor’, as we fired him when it was clear he was incompetent. We hired someone else to finish up some aspects, (and withheld that amount from the original ‘contractor’) but we didn’t know about the leaking until much later.

Vibes. Sorta sounds like a "how to to hire a contractor". These "deck over live space" projects are very popular. I'd say the are the most frequently fucked up assembly, even more that shower pans.

What was the scope of work? Was is engineered or design/build? There are lots of flat roof designs that work but they are not cheap or easy. Its amazing how many property owners want to half ass things. You start writing, "homeowner designed non-engineered repair" and "no warranty of suitability" into the contract and people start back stepping.
08-27-2022, 07:47 AM
jackstraw

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Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper

Or New Mexico, and we get snow. It’s a thing here, and roof repair outfits do not lack business.
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Picture of downtown Santa Fe, stolen.

Yup, the flat roofs on Adobe style homes is the only time, imo, a flat roof should be used. It's the architecture of those homes. We put a small flat side roof on a house in TSV that was not an Adobe style and I was just shaking my head the whole time. It's so normal in NM nobody thinks to do otherwise in certain instances. Good grief

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