Don't they have sidewalks for the people, and streets are for vehicles?Quote:
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Don't they have sidewalks for the people, and streets are for vehicles?Quote:
Originally Posted by 54-46
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Originally Posted by highangle
Those sixty footers can be great for slip stream assist. Of course coming off the back of a truck approaching fifty miles an hour and dealing with the turbulence can be a little disconcerting. A beagle leash across the bow can ruin your day man.
Shut the fuck up JONG
So sensitive. I actually joined in 2008...JONG!Quote:
Originally Posted by highangle
Bike Anchorage - help advocate for a separate bike path!
Get those bikes off the road!
https://www.bikeanchorage.org/blog
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Originally Posted by 54-46
Anchorage currently has 248 miles of paved bike paths, with another 293 miles set to be built in the next few years.
Not that you'll ever see them...
https://www.muni.org/Departments/hea...eMap_toWEB.pdf
A couple years ago, I went to a couple days of symposiums put on by the lead bicycle infrastructure engineer of a large Dutch city.
He spent the entire time talking about building infrastructure to separate bikes from cars in order to make biking safer. Feeling safe directly impacts how many people bike. People let their kids bike to school. Many more people commute on bikes. Removing bikes from roadways also makes the roads safer and more convenient for motorists. More bikes means less cars which means lower city costs for road maintenance, snow removal, etc.
But the key was to physically separate the bikes from the cars. Not just paint worthless bike lanes on the side of the road.
Of course us idiot Americans he was talking to went back to our planning meetings and immediately brainstormed ideas on how to paint more bike lanes on already-busy arterial streets, rather than figure out how to get the bikes on different paths.
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Originally Posted by Falcon3
You can quit sucking off the racist Dutch any time and explain to us how they get ROW for their magnificent and oh-so-civilized urban bike paths, fucking smart guy.
I've been to Anchorage quite a few times and the bike/pedestrian paths are dope. For whatever reason however there's also lots of busybodies who like to comment about and obstruct other people. I'll go for a quick lunchtime run on the Flattop Mountain Trail, for example, when it's not busy and invariably someone will step in front you and say something like "oh, I didn't know we were running today."
Such a weird vibe. I don't know, I expected Alaskans to be more chill but instead there seems to be a significant number of fascist buttinskys.
Do you need a hug?Quote:
Originally Posted by highangle
No douchebag, I need RoW to design and build a bike path. The Dutch just take it. We don't do it that way in America.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falcon3
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Originally Posted by MultiVerse
Pretty sure you're full of shit, so it doesn't matter...But there are at least 2 trails going up Flattop, and the one you found on the internet tourist guide before you posted is so crowded it moves like a lift line and running it would be a total asshole move. Like cutting up a lift line, you'd seriously be shoving hikers out of your way to "run" Flattop.
Moreover, only about 2 in 10 Flattop hikers are Alaskans, so the odds are high that it was some jackoff tourist who got lippy with you for being Johnny Gung Ho in your trail runners.
Bless your heart, you’re a grumpy one this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by highangle
Without much effort or funding, we could do simple things like take a road near an arterial, put 4-way stop signs for cars with “bikes yield” underneath them at every cross street, and put speed bumps on every block. Make it crazy inconvenient for cars to drive down the road and super convenient for bikes.
There’s plenty of funding and imminent domain when we decide to expand roadways for more lanes, we just need to do a better job selling the benefits of alternative transportation.
Sacramento is trying to figure it out a little. What it usually means is removing car parking and/or traffic lanes. I don't know how Amsterdam's bike path evolved but the number of people who commute by bike is orders of magnitude greater than those who drive cars and there are very few places to park cars. For an American city the dilemma is that as you remove spaces for cars you don't instantly get an increase in bike commuters--you just get more difficult car commutes. It's hard to see how to get from the current system to the Dutch system. I don't recall seeing anything comparable to the Dutch system in any other European city I've been in. (I've never been to Scandinavia.) One problem with a bike based bike commuter system is that the climate needs to be tolerable year round. Otherwise--where do all those bike commuters go when it snows or it's 110 degrees in the shade? Mass transit depends on a steady year-round ridership. (My son bike commutes year-round in Boston but he's unusual to say the least. And parking at his hospital is $600/month for residents.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Falcon3
It’s most definitely the other way around. It's a creepy place because there's a bunch of highhangle "redrum" kids all grown up.Quote:
Originally Posted by highangle
I'm aware of the two routes. The second one, which I ran, starts on the opposite side of the hill opposite the main touristy parking lot in the valley on the other side. And as I said before it wasn't busy at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by highangle
So it was probably someone like you attempting to enforce their own norms in disapproval against someone in "Johnny Gung Ho in your trail runners." Isn’t it interesting how fascists always misappropriate the word freedom?
Does every road in AK have a parallel bike path? That’s not my experience in the lower 48. What do I do if there’s no bike path and I’m commuting by bicycle?Quote:
Originally Posted by highangle
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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
We got enough idiots trying to impose their culture on a place they've never been, so just stay in Wisconsin until you can bring up something worthwhile.
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Originally Posted by Falcon3
Gee, maybe the government will eminent domain your parents' house to put up a socialized gay roller disco?
Maybe your town has enough budget surplus to hire teams of gay roller disco engineers who'll say, "Let's just take Falcon3's parents property to bring gay roller disco to it's rightful preeminence! They're not doing anything cool with it!"'
Then all the gay roller disco skaters start plugging up the roads instead, because they don't like the fuscia floors in the City gay roller disco...
LOL Falcon and this Dutch MF are both supporting your main argument - that bikes should use separate purpose-built infrastructure away from car traffic - but your blood pressure is so high that you're still only seeing red. Try not to have a stroke over this.Quote:
Originally Posted by highangle
Yes, the notion that everyone in NE American cities is somehow going to start commuting by bicycle is a little ridiculous, but somehow there is a very committed lobby that doesn't see it that way. NYC built a very nice bike path all the way down the Hudson river (end to end of Manhattan, and I believe now you can actually go all the way around). The path is right next to the West Side Highway/West Street, one of the two N-S highways in Manhattan. Virtually any weekday in the middle of the day you could lie in the middle of the bike path for minutes at a time and not be disturbed, as thousands of cars and trucks go continuously up and down the highway (I think 8-9 am and late afternoon it gets more use). Except for nice weekends when tourists and joggers use the path it seems incredibly underused [edit: nice weekday afternoons it also gets a fair amount of use, but not as a commuter route--it's mostly people who would otherwise be working out in a park or something]. When it rains or snows you might not see a single person on it except pedestrians crossing over it. And I've never understood how bike advocates see bicycle commuting as practical when it's 90+ degrees and 80% humidity (which is possible many days May-Sept). Will there be showers in every office, and people will be cool doing that? It is seriously bad enough getting into an office under those conditions without vigorous exercise to get there (and BTW, what about clothing?). The Euro model for the U.S. isn't something anyone really wants here (even people who like to bicycle generally retreat to mass transit or other transport when the weather is bad).Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
And I've heard/read many discussions about bikes and bike lanes in NYC and the fact that the 1400 miles of bike lanes in NYC get almost no use, relative to the roads, is almost never brought up (there are bike lanes in the outer boroughs that might as well not exist, but we've spent a lot of money and inconvenienced people creating them--if you build them they don't come, despite what some would have you believe).
That’s some next level homophobia right there. Careful, your ignorance is showing.Quote:
Originally Posted by highangle
Some of you have fucked up priorities, being a bully to people mostly clad in spandex is one of them.
Naa, falcon was just gassing off about how wonderful the Dutch are and how they're sooo much more civilized... [Dutchies are famous for their cultural superiority and intolerance, and not tipping because they're cheapskates]Quote:
Originally Posted by HellgateBasement
Like falcon's town has the $$ to piss away on "lead bicycle infrastructure engineers" ["lead" implies teams of bicycle infrastructure engineers]...
Like he would ride on the bike paths if he had the option...
Gay roller disco is a leisure/recreational choice, like riding a bike on the road in sight of a parallel bike path.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackattack
If falcon can casually eminent domain someone else's property for his leisure/recreational choices [and to be more like the civilized Dutch], then why can't some over privileged roller disco sodomites casually do the same with his property, strictly for their gay recreational whims?
Quit pissing in your own Cheerios.Quote:
Originally Posted by highangle
I was merely saying that Americans for the most part will continue doing things the way we’ve always done them, when there are other options out there that might work better.
Bikers will complain about cars and cagers will keep killing bikers unless we do something to change the game.
Do most places have the ability to institute Dutch bicycle infrastructure? No.
Do most places have the ability to be creative and look outside their box which generally only includes “watch for bikes” signs and painted bike lanes? I’d argue absolutely yes.
I’m not in WI. My question is valid, I want answersQuote:
Originally Posted by highangle
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I was just trying to explain to you that Americans are as bright as the next nationality, for the most part. That Americans do civil engineering as well as other nations of man, for the most part, and are quite capable of designing and implementing our own goddamn bike paths where the popular will exists. But that the major impediment to turning America into Maastricht is American cities have to respect private property, and can't casually take land and rights of land title away from landowners with a handwave from the burgermeister, the way you envision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falcon3
And then I invited you to gain a little perspective by thinking about your or your parents land being "eminent domained" for someone else's fucking recreation whim.
How about: Use the fucking BIKE PATH even if there is a road running nearby?Quote:
Bikers will complain about cars and cagers will keep killing bikers unless we do something to change the game.
They have more than enough ability. Question is Are they willing to pay for it?Quote:
Do most places have the ability to institute Dutch bicycle infrastructure? No.
Do the Dutch have the ability to put men on the moon and return them safely to earth? I'd argue not, since they haven't shown the slightest aptitude for orbital mechanics, much less inclination to undertake anything more complex than pumping water and breeding weed in the last few centuries.Quote:
Do most places have the ability to be creative and look outside their box which generally only includes “watch for bikes” signs and painted bike lanes? I’d argue absolutely yes.
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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
We can't have this conversation until you get to Wisconsin.
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Highangle doing his best creakyfossil
^^^Ain’t that the truth
Figured someone in here would want to see this...
https://www.aspentimes.com/news/form...on-creek-road/
Sounds like a helluva wreck. I hope he's able to pull through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo
What a bunch of assholes
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While en route to help Bird, Todaro said his patrol vehicle’s emergency lights were on yet the sirens were off. Cyclists would not yield, the deputy said, making his trip more burdensome.“The public needs to know they need to get out of the way for emergency vehicles,” he said. “I shut the siren off because we don’t want to blow anybody’s ear out because we don’t want to cause a bike crash on the way to a bike crash.”
One cyclist admonished him because she believed she had the right of way, he said. All told, about 100 cyclists on the road didn’t yield, he said.
“Not a single bike pulled over,” he said.
It's been suggested that e-bikes may have some downsides.
I experience cyclist god complex about every other week.Quote:
Originally Posted by dunfree
It's the disease of the era. Beliefs so strong, they think they can change reality. Politics, religion, cyclists, skiers, it's amazing.
I was just reading that. wtf?Quote:
Originally Posted by dunfree
Hope Bird recovers.
If the emergency vehicle is coming from behind riders going uphill (it’s about a 1000-1200’ climb) without a siren on, how are those people supposed to know they’re coming?
If they’re talking about the riders coming down, then - yeah - those riders should’ve pulled over.
Dunno what was in Bike Karen’s head…
E-bike Karen?Quote:
Originally Posted by 54-46
Sounds like a commercial operation was taking newbies on a tour. What could go wrong?
Also Amsterdam is a city of 900,000 people, not 9million or whatever NYC is up to. I see videos of various Asian streets packed with bike commuters and I always wonder--how far are those people going.
In my case I could easily go to the grocery store by bike in relative safety although I'd have to shop more often. I would be healthier from the riding and from buying less food but let's face it, I'm too fucking lazy--or rather I'm too damn impatient to spend the time.
Tried biking to the sunday downtown farmer's market in Sacramento from East Sac one time. A stop sign or a light every block both N/S and E/W on the route with bike lanes. And even if I wanted to run them the bad visibility at Midtown/downtown Sac intersections demands cautions. Never did it again. More than lane separation a successful bike commuter route needs to allow bikes to travel with minimal need to stop and go.