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Corking may have a different meaning here on the internet. Is the idea to actually blow out one of his arteries?
The K st mall was dead when I moved to Sacramento in 1976 and it's still dead now, except when the Kings play (in an arena that replaced a failed indoor mall that failed to revived the K st mall. The problem is that the area is mostly in the downtown business district, which is rarely a hotbed of foot traffic except when people come and go to work or lunch. The area west of it--Midtown--is much busier with foot traffic, despite no areas closed to cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
Not familiar with Sacremento as never got off the freeway there but sounds like it missed out on that urban renewal movement that hit pretty much every Western US city not named Phoenix and Las Vegas. If one strolled through downtown Tacoma one could be mistaken that its dead and not realize all those vacant lots are owned by Chinese billionaires with massive development plans, trains, buses, light rail, and bike paths connecting it to Seattle and the surrounding communities. Hipster paradise.
Sacramento built a sunken freeway along the Sacramento River west of downtown that cut off what is now Old Sacramento--a tourist area. Bus 80 between Midtown and East Sacramento is raised so not too many houses were bulldozed and the two neighborhoods still connect well. US 99 and US 50 cut off the poorer part of town--Oak Park--and took a lot of real estate. But no mass bulldozing of neighborhoods in the name of "renewal--only in the name of the automobile.Quote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
I hate to mansplain here but automobiles make ppl money.
States counties cities use your tax dollars to buy or otherwise secure RoW from other land owners to facilitate commerce. Commerce creates everything else, including nice things like paved bike paths and municipal golf links.
This whole forum is all about old dudes mansplaining to other old dudes, don't hate the game; hate the forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by highangle
Or something like that.
"What do you see Siri?"Quote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
"I see dead people."
"Yeah, me too."
Okay, I laughedQuote:
Originally Posted by highangle
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Shit dude, I paid more taxes on my bike purchases than 1000 billionaires paid last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by highangle
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Originally Posted by altasnob
You post a partial map showing 1200 miles of bike paths spread over a population the size of Stockton, and you sneer like Marie Antoinette. Trying to please you is like rolling a hot dog down a hotel hallway.
I read it in Jeremy Clarkson’s voice. Worked a treat.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
You neglect all the taxes on literally millions of gallons of general aviation Jet A in your computations.Quote:
Originally Posted by 54-46
Aren’t those paid with Dark Money campaign donations or Re-Steal the Vote Go Fund Me $?Quote:
Originally Posted by highangle
All billionaires are not Russian.Quote:
Originally Posted by 54-46
Wait, I think I've outed highangle, and he doesn't actually live in Alaska, but is Ed Orcutt, a GOP state rep from Kalama, WA. In an email proposing a bike tax to pay for the roads, highangle/Orcutt said:
https://www.seattlebikeblog.com/2013...ould-be-taxed/Quote:
you claim it is environmentally friendly to ride a bike. But if I am not mistaken, a cyclist has an increased heart rate and respiration, Than means the act of riding a bike results in greater emissions of carbon dioxide from the rider. Since CO2 is deemed to be a greenhouse gas and a pollutant, bicyclist are actually polluting when they ride
https://cascade.org/2013/03/legislat...he-environment
Or owned by Russians…Quote:
Originally Posted by highangle
Whatever petroleum product that hairpiece is made from can't be good for the environment either.Quote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
Omg, thanks for the enlightenment, no one here knows how this works. You are truly omniscientQuote:
Originally Posted by highangle
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And I thought taxes come trickling down from the billionaire bookshelves filled with Aryn Rand first editions?Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
Aryan Rand? Is that the special Alaska compound edition?
Any other states have this?Quote:
The Oregon bicycle excise tax is a flat tax of $15, to be collected at the point of sale. Revenue from the bicycle excise tax goes into the Connect Oregon Fund to provide grants for bicycle and pedestrian transportation projects.
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Originally Posted by dunfree
German superior autocorrect. It's in our blood. And I thought you knew everything about Germans?
Not that I've heard of. I'm really not sure what the point is, the state estimates it was going to raise $1.2 million/year, with $100k administrative costs. The initial proposal was for 4%-5% of the purchase price, which would have been catastrophic for Oregon bike shops...or maybe not, considering that the adjacent states have sales taxes higher than that, but at the least it would have put a damper on the accessories you might typically buy with a new bike.Quote:
Originally Posted by frorider
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Originally Posted by dunfree
Careful man, there's a beverage here!
To pay for things like this, the US's first (and only) bridge that is only open to bikes, pedestrians, and transit, and not cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by dan_pdx
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...e_with_MAX.jpg
I don't like those bike taxes though, because they kill local bike shops and force us to buy everything on Jenson.
Yeah, I'm just saying that bridge cost north of $100m; the bike sales tax revenue isn't enough to make much of a dent in big capital projects. Given that the vast majority of cyclists also own / operate motor vehicles and pay gas tax, property tax, etc. etc., the idea of a separate funding stream from bike sales just seems kind of beside the point. Everyone benefits from good bike infrastructure, just like schools and roads, no need to have a performative bike sales tax that doesn't raise a meaningful amount of revenue.Quote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
I think the bike sales tax is to appease the “we are building bike infrastructure and they don’t pay for it!” crowd.
That level of funding is really only good for funding small projects or adding bike specific elements to larger projects. But, you can buy a lot of paint and glue/bolt down bollards for 1.5 million a year. See: tactical urbanism.
This is FANTASTIC!!!! Just when you think you reached the limits of shit people can think up, you see stuff like this. Simply AMAZING!Quote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
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Originally Posted by smartyiak
The story about the 100+ Pitkin County road bikers who couldn't be arsed to move out of the way of an ambulance with flashing lights on a callout to a bicycle wreck had the same effect on a lot of ppl.
In other news, my new 150db train horns should arrive from Amazon today or tomorrow. Pretty sure I got the loudest ones.
What started here as an in depth look at the semantics of bike/car collisions has certainly turned dark.
Luckily it's all totally academic, though. I'm sure if this community ever lost one of its own to car on bike collisions we'd all be super reasonable from then on. Definitely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timberridge
A Mag's son, a competitive bike racer, was killed in a auto/bike collision not that long ago. I've avoided bring it up out of respect, but evidently some here were not aware?Quote:
Originally Posted by jono
And since we're on that subject, my complaints about dumbass haughty self-centered road bikers misusing their privilege have been about road bikers engaging in patently unsafe practices when far safer alternatives are available. Use the fucking bike paths, assholes.
I actually called those involved and discussed the situation. Out of respect of some of my friends I'm deleting what I had said.Quote:
Originally Posted by highangle
I wouldn't necessarily have characterized the tenor of your comments as respectful, but you do you. As far as the fucking bike paths, didn't you just say there aren't bike paths on many of your roads?Quote:
Originally Posted by highangle
Also, you're still foaming at the mouth over seeing one dipshit doing something ill considered weeks ago; do you really want to let the guy live rent free in your head like that?
A long time and well respected member of this forum was also killed not that long ago. I guess the word didn't make it to all of the asshats. Vibes.
Maybe the asshats were all Boy Scouts.Quote:
Originally Posted by jono
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Originally Posted by highangle
Also, States should just have laws. That would solve all the problems. Like, if the law said, "cyclists must use the path..." then I would eat crow. Or "cyclist are allowed on roadway..." then highangle could STFU already.Quote:
Originally Posted by dan_pdx
I wonder why no one has ever thought of that.
https://bikeleague.org/StateBikeLawsQuote:
Originally Posted by smartyiak
WAIT.JUST.A.GODDAMN.MINUTE...are you telling me that there are actual laws...on the books...that allow bicycles on a road????? Even in Alaska????Quote:
Originally Posted by Peruvian
You may want to read the AK bike laws first. They are not exactly progressive when it comes to cyclists.Quote:
Originally Posted by smartyiak