Printable View
Reports out of Cleveland today state that the Browns and Baker are breaking up regardless. The quote being shared was "they want an adult at quarterback".
Damn, that fucking sucks as I think the guy has earned the right to come back and start with a healthy body.
And if "adult" is who you're gunning for, is that Watson? Jimmy G? Really?
I guess it's been a while since we added a new name to the QB jersey.
le sigh.
I had an idea for a TV commercial when I saw this last year:Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
https://news.kraftheinzcompany.com/p...m/default.aspx
Mason and Genie are living at Heinz Field. Myles Garrett knocks on the main gate and Mason goes to see who it is. Myles is selling ice cream in the little mini football helmets. Mason stares at him for a second or two and then slams the gate shut and runs back into the stadium.
Here we go BMills. We're walking the tightrope. Buckle up.Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
I get the Tretter move. Tretter's getting old for a O lineman. They save 9 mil by moving on. It is highly likely that in 2 years at 34 or 35 he won't be that awesome anymore, so if they think Nick Harris is ready (and he's done ok playing out of position thus far when guys are hurt) and Bill Callahan signs off I understand it. With that move and the other signings they have something like 25mil of cap room right now. They need to sign up their rookie class plus 2 D Linemen plus a WR, so they need to create space. All good.
But it could also be used, combined with removing Baker's deal, to get Watson's salary under the cap.
And that's the tightrope. Cleveland, right now, when healthy, has a QB that can get them to the playoffs and win. He did it in 2020, so we know it's true. Can he win a superbowl? Who knows? But Baker can win in the playoffs. And this is the first time in 25 years that Browns fans could say that.
If they don't get Watson, and they move on from Baker because of going after Watson, there's almost no plan B. Jimmy G? Please. MAYBE Matt Ryan if Watson goes to Atlanta - and Ryan costs as much as Watson. And he's not the future cause he's really old. And there's aren't any QBs in the draft. It feels like the Browns, right now, are at a hugely important point in their history. Berry and Stefanski just swung for the fences (or Haslem?). If they don't hit the homerun, we might just lose everything and go back to wandering the wilderness. I'm scared, and my fan PTSD is kicking in.
The next few days might determine the fate of the Browns for the next 5 years or more.
And by the way - I've thought about it. I would rather fight to make the playoffs every year with Baker - a loyal guy, a good human, a guy who's loved by his teammates and seems to have outstanding character, then win all the time with Watson. That feels like a deal with the devil. I could root for Baker like I rooted for Kosar. Baker would (and almost did last year) kill himself for Cleveland. That matters to me.
I’d take Jimmy G over the current Matt Ryan. He’s also a huge locker room guy- his teammates love him and he’s definitely an “adult” whatever that means, considering how he handled this past season. He’s also better than most think when he’s healthy, which to be fair isn’t often.
People bring up the super bowl without looking at details. He was outplaying Mahomes until he got cracked in the head (no call on that, I should add).
We got Von. Wow !
GO BILLS
WOW is right.Quote:
Originally Posted by hatchgreenchile
while that is a big get, it's being reported as 6/$120M, which can't possibly be correct. Or if correct, it has to be one of those "fake" structured contracts. Because if they truly agreed to that, with a ton guaranteed, that's crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by hatchgreenchile
What? You don't think a 38 yo Von Miller making 20 mil/year makes sense?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
It’s really a 3 yr, $53 million dealQuote:
Originally Posted by Danno
still seems like too much. But hope he brings you a chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by hatchgreenchile
He’s 38 and not a QB. That’s crazy shit depending on what’s guaranteed.
38 at the end of the contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
Agents are killing it in the NFL
This. This. This. This. This.Quote:
Originally Posted by EWG
My fan PTSD is at an all time high for this new-ish era.
FKNA, do the right thing. Roll with Shake n Bake.
Read Cleveland.com today? Labbe’s column made a lot of sense. If you make Watson the face of the franchise, the face of the city, is that really what you want?
Love your last paragraph so much. I’ll roll with Baker just like Bernie, just get us a playoff win and the hope of a ring and I’m happy. I’m a Cleveland fan after all, expectations are low anyway, lol.
Contracts are growing rapidly. Elite pass rushers are making ~$24M+ annually. $17.5M through 2024 isn't atrocious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
Bills Defense was #1 in many categories last year. Defensive dominance is far more challenging to sustain than offensive, but this is a move that keeps them at the top.
Settle down. The Bills finally have a Pro Bowl player on the team now.Quote:
Originally Posted by EWG
And Bills add OJ Howard at TE2, pretty good day for Big Baller Beane. That Von contract is much more manageable than the sticker shock implies. Still don’t have a backup QB but seems like that’s not his priority.
Sent from my iPad using TGR Forums
It’s going to be funny to see some team’s fans trying to root for Watson and justify it…
Fitz still available?Quote:
Originally Posted by ticketchecker
I think so. Wouldn’t have been surprised to see Tyrod or Kyle Allen but both got jobs today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timberridge
Supposedly Jordan Phillips wants to come back, would complete an overhaul of the interior D line.
Sent from the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Bills should have invested in their O line instead of Von.
They did and probably aren’t done yetQuote:
Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds!
Sent from the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
They signed a guy who is about to turn 34 who can't pass block anymore. The Bengals did it right, getting two guards in their 20's who will keep DTs out of Burrows face.Quote:
Originally Posted by ticketchecker
The Bills have been getting away with mediocre O line play because Allen is so damn good. I think it's a risky approach. I'd do whatever I could to minimize the hits on Josh.
Elite quarterback Joe Flacco apparently has signed with the Jets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timberridge
Bates stepped in and solidified the line down the stretch, he’s RFA and will be back. Morse extended, Kromer back as line coach and coached Saffold a couple years ago. Spencer Brown plays with a mean streak and in year two should be at least decent at RT. I don’t know a lot about Saffold other than he made the pro bowl last year and it’s a one year deal. Beane will have competition for him in camp.Quote:
Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds!
FA just started yesterday and the draft is coming, no worries here just yet
Sent from the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Used to be a stud. Made the pro bowl on reputation. Still has the strength to move people, but struggled in pass protection.Quote:
Originally Posted by ticketchecker
Think Phillips is back!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ticketchecker
Go bills
I hope Brandon Beane is on phone with Joe Douglas and Woody 'cause I want Mike Fuckin White then.Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
Carl Wentz looking like a used car salesman.
https://twitter.com/nickijhabvala/st...795274245?s=21
He's no Cam Newton.
The NFC East is consistently the garbage can of the NFL.
Ummm....:eek:
Attachment 409826
The Bears can't really get anything right
In other news, the Bears were found dead in an alley this morning with a bullet in the back of the head.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
In a development that shocked a grand total of 7 people, all of them inside Browns' headquarters, Cleveland is out of the Watson sweepstakes. On the plus side, I don't have to worry about selling my soul. On the downside, I'm not sure we have any quarterback at all right now, which means my soul may die anyway.
Is this where the phrase Browns gonna Brown comes from?
Remember how people were worried poor Baker was going to get brain fucked last year by playing hurt and struggling? The Brown's organization decided his brain needed even more fucking.
Bills cut Beasley. Really weird that they couldn't find a trade for him (sarcasm).
Mission Accomplished!Quote:
Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain
Quote:
Originally Posted by EWG
This really is some next level shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain
Word out of Berea today is that Berry spoke with Baker personally at the end of the season and informed him that he is their guy but if a top tier QB becomes available, he was going to make a run at it.
Take that and combine it with Baker’s letter to the city and it kinda makes sense that he knew all this was going to happen.
Read up on him a bit. Very athletic and can play inside or tackle, both traits valued by Beane. Sounds like he could be an upgrade over D Williams and is a one year band aid. I bet two IOL get drafted.Quote:
Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds!
Time will tell
Sent from the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen