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While I would agree Wagner is probably the best talent of the bunch, I would say he's a bubble candidate for the HOF at best currently.Quote:
Originally Posted by stealurface831
4.4 speed is world class speed at LB I will say though, but ultimately I think stacks his stats a bit as his tackle totals are largely inflated with assists.
It wasn't a solitary incident. Sounds like his mental health has been going downhill for the last several months. I'm pretty shocked by the news:Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
"The King County Sheriff’s Office obtained an extreme risk protection order (ERPO) against Sherman earlier this year to bar him from possessing firearms, according to court records. The petition was sealed by a Superior Court judge, so details are unknown. Under state law, "ERPOs can be sealed if there are no other active protection orders against the restrained party, no pending violations of the order, and evidence of full compliance with the relinquishment of firearms."
6 first team all-pro nods and a ring. and he is 31.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdironRider
Agreed on all points, very surprised to see this today.Quote:
Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds!
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...87522063114244
this all sounds like some bullshit. they have "Richard Sherman booked for domestic violence" plastered all over ESPN. that don't seem quite right when he didn't lay a hand on anybody. and of course they sicked the fuckin dogs on him to boot.
Sherman is very bright and articulate. I am very surprised by these allegations.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdironRider
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Yeah. Fucking Seattle cops trying to commit violence against a black man who doesn’t deserve it, then throw the book at him for “resisting”Quote:
Originally Posted by stealurface831
https://apple.news/ASNf-VlU0QJ6XFOFXGg2dLw
Dispatcher is lame
That is what happens when you go play for San Francisco.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supermoon
Sherman always seemed unhinged but based on his educational achievements I thought it was an act:
A scholar-athlete, he was salutatorian (ranked second) in his high school class. He graduated from high school with a 4.2 GPA.
I hate to be an old get off my lawn kinda dude but in my day getting a 4.0 was the biggest you could achieve because it meant that you'd gotten nothing but A's throughout your high school career
No. There’s a new gpa system been around a long time. It’s course weightedQuote:
Originally Posted by Cruiser
He and Patrick Willis both about 6-7x All-proQuote:
Originally Posted by stealurface831
i got bees and cees and ended with a 3.4.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
Seattle cops in no way participated in Sherman's arrest. He lives out with all the rich white people in Maple Valley. And his in laws live with the other rich white people in Redmond. We'll find out more soon but sounds like he was obliterated drunk (like two bottles of hard a drunk; blood test results pending). Drove drunk, crashed his car on the freeway, ran away. Somehow made it to his in laws house in Redmond where he was trying to break into the home all while threatening suicide. And as I pointed out above, there is much much more to the story that will likely come out soon. The prosecutor has been on his ass for months and there is a reason why (but it is currently sealed). We should find out soon. It's not a defense that no one got hurt. It's the "intent" that matters. As someone who defends people prosecuted for felony domestic violence by the King County Prosecutor's Office, he is deep shit. His career is over as is his reputation. Sad.
That really, really sounds like CTE.
Jerry Jones would like a word.Quote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
On another note, I really wish public safety entities wouldn't release 911 calls.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time or something.
And yeah, fuck that noise that Sherman should have just gotten a slap on the wrist because he didn't physically hurt someone. A professional athlete, juiced up on booze, suicidal, and aggressive looking for a fight is a fucked situation for anyone to deal with, let alone non-athletes, women, or older family members.
CTE isn't an excuse for this behavior. It is very unfortunate side effect of football, but it doesn't mean he gets a pass for domestic violence, notably with a past history.
Maybe its not CTE but just a guy who can't handle that his career is likely over anyway and turned to alcohol. That is the more likely scenario right now.
We don't know the circumstances, so I won't talk anymore shit about RS until the dust settles and the World knows what really happened. We all have bad days. To bad he took his a bit to far.
911 calls are public records in Washington. Same with police reports once the investigation is complete. Investigation is deemed to have been completed once the police forward the reports to the prosecutor for charging considerations (I understand this is happening today for Sherman). If the police refused to give these up when requested, they can be sued for thousands and thousands of dollars. It's a balance of person's right to privacy versus the public's right to know how their police department and courts operate.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain
Mug shots are not public records in Washington, unlike other states where they are, which I think is a good thing.
It's not an excuse, it's an explanation, or at least part of the explanation.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdironRider
from what i can find, it is Extreme Risk Protection Order. why is it you say the prosecutor is on his ass? isn't it more likely a family member petitioned the court to issue the order?Quote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
I am Seahawk fan but the I find the the sport of football increasingly sickening. They're paid mercenaries, then get carted off and replaced with fresh meat. Pete Carrol is ra ra Mr. Positive but he's just the slave driver orchestrating the show. The number of Seahawks who have gone on to do terrible things, either while on the team, or after they left, is disturbing. I'm waiting for the day Russell Wilson goes ballistic.
My friend who works as a video coordinator for Pac 12 team (so he is actually considered a "coach") tells me he thinks the sport of football has maybe ten more years of existence, tops. The top players are increasingly coming from states like Texas and Florida because people in other states are too smart to let their kids play football.
Yes, the prosecutor can't act without witnesses bringing evidence to the prosecutor. But that tells me someone went to the prosecutor with some serious allegations that Sherman was going to harm himself or others. Not enough to charge him with a crime, but enough to convince the court to issue the order and take away his gun rights (without ever being convicted of a crime). These Extreme Risks Protection Orders are relatively new in Washington State. They can be requested by family or domestic relationship member, the police, or prosecutor. As I mentioned, the whole thing was sealed. That's why none of us heard about this months ago when it was issued. If the media was really on the case, there would have been an article about months ago when this order was issued because when you seal the file, you seal the contents of the court file, but not the name of the court file. So we would have known there was some case against Richard Sherman and that it was sealed. Sometimes media does their job and monitors court files for these things. But normally, someone within the court system, or police or prosecutor's office, tips the media off (sometimes for cash). Not necessarily illegal for them to tip the media off but definitely unprofessional and grounds for discipline. But happens all the time and media defends their sources.Quote:
Originally Posted by stealurface831
All of the info that was sealed should be on ESPN by this afternoon when the prosecutor announces the formal charges, and includes a probable cause statement that will summarize all the evidence against Sherman. Bail will be imposed but Sherman can afford it so he should be out of jail by tonight.
The Judge found probable cause for four misdemeanors, but no felonies, at today's hearing. Sherman was released without having to post bail. He has a hearing set tomorrow at 2 pm where the prosecutor will announce what charges he faces. While he could still face felonies, I read the probable cause statement and think it's unlikely. The charges the judge found probable cause today for was DUI, Criminal Trespass 2nd (instead of the felony, Attempted Residential Burglary), Malicious Mischief 3rd (for damage to the door), and Resisting Arrest). Sherman's father in law sprayed bear spray on Sherman through a crack in the door. He had his gun ready to shoot Sherman. Sherman's wife said he was drunk and on anit-depressants. Sherman threatened to hang himself and commit suicide by cop.
i think it is a reasonable assumption that the ERPO was so he couldn't buy a gun to off himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
I hope he can get whatever help he needs here.Quote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
If lahars weren't enough to keep those inlaws up at night, they now have Richard Sherman.
I'll venmo $50 to the first commentator that works "lahar" into a play call this season, preferably when describing a slow moving but brick shithouse D lineman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timberridge
Boom. Beasley better get vaxxed up or you upstaters can kiss your playoof hopes bye bye.
The NFL just informed clubs that if a game cannot be rescheduled during the 18-week season in 2021 due to a COVID outbreak among unvaccinated players, the team with the outbreak will FORFEIT and be credited with a loss for playoff seeding
Today’s memo... also says the team responsible for a canceled game because of an outbreak among unvaccinated players/staff will be responsible for financial losses and subject to potential discipline from the commissioner.
Aren't the Cowboys hovering around 50% vaccinated right now?Quote:
Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain
Yeah but they have little hope for the playoffs.
Beasley needs to delete twitter.
Beasley coasted past “distraction” a month ago and is now firmly in “embarrassment” territory.
$6 million to be the Bills #4 wideout, and then this nonsense ? He better check himself ASAP
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Sad news. NYJ asst coach Greg Knapp passed away, SI reports. Was struck by a car a few days ago while riding his bicycle in CA.
Also coached w/SF, Denver, Seattle, Oakland and others.
Sad to hear about Coach.
Local sports radio has been on fire today about the NFL's covid memo. Seems quite vague, if 8 players get sick and 7 are vax'd, is that an unvaxed outbreak because one wasn't? And then if they can't make up the game, BOTH teams don't get paid??
Still haven't heard where the PA is on this, but our new LB isn't happy..
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Browns center JC Tretter is the President and very much in favor of tighter COVID protocols. The team likes him a lot but not really his proposed restrictions which is why you see things like Baker hosting the entire offense at his high school in Austin for workouts.
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FUCK TJ WARD
Yikes. Yeah, that’s fucked up
So much to unpack in the last week....Rodgers returning, D. Watson reduced to scout team safety duty, the new COVID rules (with Lamar Jackson as the first domino to fall), etc.
Cole Beasley needs to be cut just for this dogshit track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOeTfnOd_1Q