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Made available for our team last week (CO).Quote:
Originally Posted by BCMtnHound
I hear they report pretty good efficacy a couple weeks after the first shot - the mental load-off is real.
The more I hear about long term lung problems etc .. I'm selfishly glad I got the vaccine.
Wife and I got the first shot on Jan 3, due for the second on the 23rd. No major side effects for either of us other than mild fatigue for about five days after. I haven't read through this whole thread, but will venture a guess that I'm the only one here who has taken Sputnik V. This may be of interest to anyone considering the adenovirus platform over mRNA, so AZ/Oxford and J&J/Janssen.
Availability here is an absolute disgrace. Yet another reason to call for the wholesale liquidation of the boomer generation.
Ehhhh, wha? RFV is doing pretty well. PitCo will hopefully be through the 70+ crowd by the end of the month, get us educators poked and then onto Phase 2. Way ahead of most states that are still working on first responders...Quote:
Originally Posted by glademaster
I had the first shot (Moderna) almost a week ago. Seriously sore shoulder that night and the next day, and felt a lot more tired than usual for maybe two or three days. Thats about it
Had the shot 4 days ago (Moderna)
Beyond the usual expected sore injection site I have been more tired than usual. Also developed mild tendonitis in the opposite shoulder (which I’ve never had before in my life) and my legs were a lot more sore following a 1.5 hour spin bike session (which I did a few hours after the shot) than they normally would be (soreness resolved by 48 hours and shoulder tendinitis is improving)
All to say that there could be a systemic pro-inflammatory response from the shot leading to these symptoms. Or those symptoms could easily be 100% unrelated.
Smarter people can weigh in on that idea
Or maybe you were full of spike proteins.
I blame the spinning.Quote:
Originally Posted by ötzi
It wasn’t a spin class if that counts for anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark
I don't judge. I spin too.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennymac
Yeah it just was weird to be more sore than usual post ride. And to have tendonitis in my shoulder (opposite shoulder of the shot). Again these could easily be 100% unrelated to the vax and due to other factors.
WI resident, very reassuring to know that the WI Society of Optometrist's convinced the state to vaccinate their members while nursing homes are still waiting. 80% of WI deaths are 65 and older, after front line medical workers 70+ year olds should have been next in line.
I miss spinning. I did it about 18 years ago. It bothers my back. I have a spin style bike in the basement that I use from time to time but can't do a full session. Maybe I'll go do a few minutes. I don't miss the corny music from the classes. I have a Pandora station that I trained to play only hardcore punk rock. I don't have the motivation to make some playlists from my library. What I really need is player that I can program to be more than just random, but not use a set playlist. Being able to apply logic for each spot in the playlist so it could randomly select from a reduced pool based on a set of criteria for that spot would be handy: length, genre, tempo, etc.
Cool story broQuote:
Originally Posted by riser3
Take a fucking lap
Have you been skipping your antidepressants again? You know what happens when you do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttahflake
A nurse told me yesterday vaccine can be up to 80% effective after the first shot - so someplace in the UK was going to space out the 1st and 2nd shots by 12 weeks instead of 4. Attempt to get more people the first shot sooner (as opposed to giving fewer people both shots sooner). I don't think the trials studied it like that, but it's kinda interesting. More people at 80% vs fewer at 95%? I don't maths, but if true I wonder if that's 'better' ..
Any of you med folks, have .02 about this?
I get my second shot Thursday - cannot come soon enough.
While there is significant benefit from the first shot the total number of people in the studies who got sick between the doses was too small in both groups to draw meaningful conclusions. More importantly, we don't know how long the protection from a single dose lasts. If the protection wears off before while we still have lots of people waiting for the first dose nothing has been accomplished.
No, actually I don’t, what happens motherfucker?Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
Never been into going to the doctor and pharmacy’s and whatnot.
I will get the shot however and I’ve been wearing a mask since March
Have you changed your mask during that time?Quote:
Originally Posted by buttahflake
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My Dad got vaccinated with the Moderna vaccine last week. Pretty straightforward. Went to his GP, got stuck, hung out for 15 minutes just in case there was any allergic reaction. No issues since. Scheduled for number 2 shot some time in early February.
The data is weak for two unknowns (does immunity fade? Does it keep increasing even without the second shot?) But from a logistical standpoint the numbers are clear: future doses should be supplied from ongoing production. Basic lean manufacturing: inventory is waste. If the health impacts are likely to be similar you don't hold back reserves. And definitely not half of prior production. There should be a ramp up in production rates, too, so maybe next week that gets more attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by old goat
The studies weren't crafted that way, so there isn't any data. A UCSF Dr. was advocating for the same thing which was met with a solid 'No.' from the CDC. Lots of reasonable decision making behind this. The CDC only grants emergency use authorization to things that medicines that look like they're absolutely a sure thing. China has this issue, as their vaccine was only about 70% effective in trials, but in reality is only coming back around 50% effective in some areas. This damages public confidence in the CDC and the vaccine and increases reluctance to getting it. Now China dgaf about that and will force people to get shots, but that doesn't fly in the US. Maybe in the end they'll figure out that they can reduce the dosing, but what they have right now cleared some high hurdles and they're not lowering the standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiddleOfNight
Our ski patrol was able to get us in line, so I’m up for #1 on Friday. I think they are pushing the Pfizer vac, but we’ll see. Looking forward to getting it done with though.
Yeah, I'm not suggesting holding second doses in reserve, but without data it doesn't seem wise to delay them for an extended period. I doubt a short delay would be a problem medically. The main problem with a short delay is logistical--unless and until there is a massive vaccination infrastructure it seems like vaccination is mostly being done by appointment--so you have an appt made at the time of the first shot for your second dose but your site doesn't have vaccine when it's time and the next appt is another month out or more. In order for that not to be a problem we need the capacity to do drop in vaccination without 12 hour waits.Quote:
Originally Posted by jono
We have had outstanding success here:
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To date, the county has received approximately 5,300 allotments of the first dose of vaccine. This week’s shipment didn’t include any first doses, but it did include 1,900 second doses.
Harmon noted there is still enough first dose vaccine in the local system to continue clinics this week.
“We still hope that this week, 1,000 to 1,200 Eagle Country residents will receive their first dose,” he noted. But with no new first dose vaccine sent Jan. 13, vaccination clinics are not scheduling appointments for next week.
recently isolated after a colleague went + covid, had received the moderna vaccine about a month prior
Our crew started getting it yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by axebiker
Over the MLK weekend, we had a ton of folks come through patrol. At one point they were saying we were not first responders. Glad they finally moved us up.
Staff at our school who are working face to face with kids starting get vaccinated with the Moderna shots. Kind of unexpected considering the Gov has said nothing about teachers getting inoculated. I'm guessing the hospital has extras they need to use.
There's one lot of Moderna in CA that has had more allergic reactions than expected. Sites are being told to not use the lot (330K doses originally) pending vaccination. That should really help CA catch up to other states in getting people vaccinated.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavi...ainstage_card5
Despite WA state sucking (34% of available doses have been used; 34th in state rankings...), with Inslee announcing the inclusion of 65+ for vaccines now, my 66yo parents were able to sign up and get pharmacy slots for Feb 3rd. Pretty psyched on that!
I’m glad to see Inslee tap Starbucks and Microsoft logistics talent to help with distribution. That’s how public-private partnership is supposed to work. Hopefully it goes well.Quote:
Originally Posted by alpinevibes
Novavax is having trouble recruiting and retaining over 65's in it's Phase 3 trial. People want the approved vaccines.
Unfortunately there are no trial sites in California. I bet they could still get people here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...inical-trials/
Come again? Your colleague was vaccinated a month ago and now tests positive for Covid???? I guess they're not 100% effective but I'm a little surprised (and concerned) to hear that.Quote:
Originally Posted by whipski
After the second dose of either, it’s about 95% effective. But that’s with vaccine effectiveness math, which isn’t regular math. So it’s still very possible for vaccinated folks to come down with it. Here’s a good article that’s probably in the other thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronco
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/20/h...effective.html
Just got round two of Pfizer...I am BEAMING straight 5G yo!
Congrats on the upgrade!Quote:
Originally Posted by seano732
I know zero about this news (or even if it's real news), I just heard it on the radio a minute ago, but they said a vaccine-resistant strain has been found, has anyone seen anything on this? That would be no bueno.
Is your colleague symptomatic? As has been pointed out several times, we don't yet have evidence that either vaccine prevents asymptomatic infection.Quote:
Originally Posted by whipski
Also, maybe one of the smart people can answer me this--the mRNA vaccines cause the body to start making spike proteins. For how long after vaccination does that go on, or is it one copy of spike protein and then the mRNA is destroyed? Could spike protein alone give a positive result on an antigen test? If a vaccinated person were infected with SARS-CoV-2 and the immune response rapidly ended the infection, could non-infectious debris from the brief infection produce a positive test result, similar to the way recovering Covid 19 patients may test positive for some time after active infection has been stopped? Do we have tests that distinguish between live virus and nonviable viral remnants?
Well shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by ötzi