To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

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Originally Posted by gravitylover

My FIL'S doc said he should not get the Pfizer shot but the place he lives contracted with CVS to come in and administer the shots. Unfortunately they only give the Pfizer shot not Moderna and his docs aren't doing it. We can't find anywhere locally that can tell us if or when they'll get that and the place he lives wants all of the residents to have their first shot this coming week. This shouldn't have to be a hassle...

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I'm curious as to why Moderna but not Pfizer. Any idea?

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Originally Posted by old goat

I'm curious as to why Moderna but not Pfizer. Any idea?

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One of the ingredients "could" be a problem. He has several allergies to medicines, I don't remember what they are, and the doc doesn't know enough about it so her decision is to stay away. His other doc won't offer an opinion because he doesn't feel like he knows enough about either one. If it was administered in a medical setting rather than a chair in the lobby of the place and there was a doc on site rather than a pharmacist we might be willing to take the chance but it's all so shaky my wife doesn't trust it if he has a bad reaction.

So my wife got the Moderna a week ago: initially had shoulder soreness for a couple days, but now her injection site is itchy, swollen and red, having become worse from days 4-7. Nothing terrible, but she's not psyched on it.

Curious if anyone else has seen this kind of thing from the Moderna shot?

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Originally Posted by alpinevibes

So my wife got the Moderna a week ago: initially had shoulder soreness for a couple days, but now her injection site is itchy, swollen and red, having become worse from days 4-7. Nothing terrible, but she's not psyched on it.

Curious if anyone else has seen this kind of thing from the Moderna shot?

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Not abnormal for ANY injection. Can use an OTC hydrocortisone cream such as Cortaid. Severe acute allergic responses to Moderna's vaccine are trending at 1:100K FYI.

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Originally Posted by adrenalated

Wifey (RN on an inpatient, non-elective hospital unit) gets stabbed today. Will report back on if she turns into a zombie.
I'm in the lowest priority group so still probably summer at best before I can get dosed.

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I forgot to update. Her arm was sore the next day and she felt fatigued (which might have just been because she had just worked a 12 hour shift the day before). Pfizer vaccine FWIW.
Second dose this week.

Excited here. Father in law is scheduled to get the pfizer shot on Friday. At the last update, 18 of the 28 residents at the care facility have covid. He's still negative and has been isolated.

Wife got her vaccine an hour ago. She has not started eating my brain yet.

My sister got Moderna vax last week; no side effects at all

Well, for you who assumed I was an anti-vaxxer, I took the Moderna vaccine last Thursday. As a first responder through ski patrol, the local health department said I qualified.

Drive through. Filled out a form. They asked if I had eve had an anaphylactic reaction, which I had in response to penicillin many year ago. Drove to the next station, got the vaccine in my left arm. Needle looked like about a 23 gauge; never felt it go in. Pulled to a parking spot and waited 30 minutes because of the prior anaphylactic reaction.

Injection site was sore for the next two days. No skin irritation. No other side effects.

YMMV.

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Originally Posted by huckbucket

Not abnormal for ANY injection. Can use an OTC hydrocortisone cream such as Cortaid. Severe acute allergic responses to Moderna's vaccine are trending at 1:100K FYI.

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Yeah, she used some hydrocortisone which helped some. She's had lots of shots/vaccines over the years and nothing like this. Clearly it doesn't appear to be a life-threatening issue by any means, just odd for the delayed escalation after pretty normal stuff the first few days.

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Originally Posted by TNKen

Well, for you who assumed I was an anti-vaxxer, I took the Moderna vaccine last Thursday. As a first responder through ski patrol, the local health department said I qualified.

Drive through. Filled out a form. They asked if I had eve had an anaphylactic reaction, which I had in response to penicillin many year ago. Drove to the next station, got the vaccine in my left arm. Needle looked like about a 23 gauge; never felt it go in. Pulled to a parking spot and waited 30 minutes because of the prior anaphylactic reaction.

Injection site was sore for the next two days. No skin irritation. No other side effects.

YMMV.

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Yeah, but did you like it?

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Originally Posted by riser3

Wife got her vaccine an hour ago. She has not started eating my brain yet.

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That only happens if she gets wet.

And don't let her eat after midnight.

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Originally Posted by TNKen

Well, for you who assumed I was an anti-vaxxer, I took the Moderna vaccine last Thursday. As a first responder through ski patrol, the local health department said I qualified.

Drive through. Filled out a form. They asked if I had eve had an anaphylactic reaction, which I had in response to penicillin many year ago. Drove to the next station, got the vaccine in my left arm. Needle looked like about a 23 gauge; never felt it go in. Pulled to a parking spot and waited 30 minutes because of the prior anaphylactic reaction.

Injection site was sore for the next two days. No skin irritation. No other side effects.

YMMV.

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Are you getting the mind control messages from Bill Gates and George Soros yet?

Pretty soon they're gonna indoctorinate you into the Antifa New World Order.

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Originally Posted by TNKen

Well, for you who assumed I was an anti-vaxxer, I took the Moderna vaccine last Thursday. As a first responder through ski patrol, the local health department said I qualified.

Drive through. Filled out a form. They asked if I had eve had an anaphylactic reaction, which I had in response to penicillin many year ago. Drove to the next station, got the vaccine in my left arm. Needle looked like about a 23 gauge; never felt it go in. Pulled to a parking spot and waited 30 minutes because of the prior anaphylactic reaction.

Injection site was sore for the next two days. No skin irritation. No other side effects.

YMMV.

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It’s going to turn you into a antifa social justice warrior


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Originally Posted by riser3

Wife got her vaccine an hour ago. She has not started eating my brain yet.

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Hopefully she's giving you brain.

Got my second Pfizer shot yesterday around 10am. No issues during the day except my arm feeling increasingly sore, more so than the first shot. Woke up around 2am with a terrible headache, body aches and a 100.8 fever. Took some Tylenol and tried to sleep. Fever finally broke around 7am to 99.7 and now fever free (10am). Body still feels wrecked and the headache is lingering. They had to stagger our schedules so all of the Er nurses have the day off after receiving the second shot. No gills or scales yet so that’s a plus.


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Originally Posted by ffmedic84

Got my second Pfizer shot yesterday around 10am. No issues during the day except my arm feeling increasingly sore, more so than the first shot. Woke up around 2am with a terrible headache, body aches and a 100.8 fever. Took some Tylenol and tried to sleep. Fever finally broke around 7am to 99.7 and now fever free (10am). Body still feels wrecked and the headache is lingering. They had to stagger our schedules so all of the Er nurses have the day off after receiving the second shot. No gills or scales yet so that’s a plus.


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How's the wifi? Strong signal and faster downloads?

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Originally Posted by DJSapp

How's the wifi? Strong signal and faster downloads?

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Implanted 5G is the way to go.


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Originally Posted by Ted Striker

That only happens if she gets wet.
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The poor milkman.

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Originally Posted by altacoup

It’s going to turn you into a antifa social justice warrior

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Dammit. Guess that explains why I have been giving my guns and ammo away to random strangers.

To vaccinate or not: The UK variant along with the variants from South Africa and Brazil appear to have emerged from individuals due to accelerated evolution in an immunocompromised patient as well as in patients given polyclonal serum antibodies.

The mutations allowed the virus to escape treatments. Failure to achieve mass immunization through vaccination will give the virus more opportunities to evade vaccines making them less effective in the future.

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Originally Posted by subtle plague

The poor milkman.

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I've always wondered why my brother and I don't look alike

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Originally Posted by TNKen

Dammit. Guess that explains why I have been giving my guns and ammo away to random strangers.

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I will happily be one of those random strangers. I'll take all the guns and ammo you feel you need to get rid of.

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Originally Posted by ffmedic84

Got my second Pfizer shot yesterday around 10am. No issues during the day except my arm feeling increasingly sore, more so than the first shot. Woke up around 2am with a terrible headache, body aches and a 100.8 fever. Took some Tylenol and tried to sleep. Fever finally broke around 7am to 99.7 and now fever free (10am). Body still feels wrecked and the headache is lingering. They had to stagger our schedules so all of the Er nurses have the day off after receiving the second shot. No gills or scales yet so that’s a plus.


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Wife, a case manager on a respiratory floor, gets dose #2 of Pfizer this Friday. They likewise staggered the dosing at her facility. Fortunately, I am away at a fishing tournament over the weekend.

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Originally Posted by The SnowShow

Does anyone in AZ know if the Mayo Clinic is scheduling shots for patients or ex patients?

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Good friend is a nurse at Mayo and had to go to a different facility to get the first round shot....


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Originally Posted by nickwm21

Good friend is a nurse at Mayo and had to go to a different facility to get the first round

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Wonder if she got the real thing or just Miracle Whip

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Originally Posted by Falcon3

Wonder if she got the real thing or just Miracle Whip

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Haha she had flu symptoms for 30min that night... so likely Kewpie


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I don't know about the vaccine but either the virus or the antibody cocktail clearly causes insanity.

Only for people with orange ancestry

From the land of good news and people thinking on their feet:

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/artic...P-CP-Spotlight

TL: DR Ukiah Valley Medical Center's fridge broke down overnight, leaving 850 Moderna doses at room temp at 2am. They had about 4 hours to inject it all before it expired, and they got it done in 2.5 hours via social media and word of mouth for some first come first served action. They figured it was better to inject whomever they could get than to waste it. Good job Ukiah MC.

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Originally Posted by Ted Striker

Only for people with orange ancestry

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Dutch?

I'll just leave this here. It wasn't the surveys political implications but everything in between that I found interesting.
What's with Health Care Workers?

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Pic from survey done here:
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...december-2020/

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Originally Posted by old goat

Dutch?

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Scottish and German, but his dad pretended to be Swedish.

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Originally Posted by MultiVerse

To vaccinate or not: The UK variant along with the variants from South Africa and Brazil appear to have emerged from individuals due to accelerated evolution in an immunocompromised patient as well as in patients given polyclonal serum antibodies.

The mutations allowed the virus to escape treatments. Failure to achieve mass immunization through vaccination will give the virus more opportunities to evade vaccines making them less effective in the future.

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Doesn't it seem likely that we will be chasing mutations with yearly, or maybe less often vaccination? Although unless we wind up with a cheap, easy to make, easy to store, easy to give vaccine the challenge of maintaining an ongoing vaccination program with something like the Pfizer or Moderna will be daunting.

My mom gets her vax tomorrow.

Selfish.

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Originally Posted by glademaster

Selfish.

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Originally Posted by glademaster

Selfish.

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Right? All of these privileged white folks gloating about them & theirs cutting the line and getting in front of the less privileged people who are at much higher risk? It's shameful, to be quite honest. Until all of the people in 3rd world countries have been vaccinated, followed by minority groups in the USA, any white American who gets the vaccine is complicit in the death of affected persons from marginalized groups. It is white privilege to the nth degree.

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Originally Posted by puregravity

I'll just leave this here. It wasn't the surveys political implications but everything in between that I found interesting.
What's with Health Care Workers?

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Pic from survey done here:
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...december-2020/

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I love how people assume healthcare workers are rational critical thinkers that trust science. A lot of them go into these careers just because it’s good money and they can pass the coursework. I know many at my hospital who aren’t going to get the vaccine because they don’t trust the science, it’s just the flu, I’m young, I’m going to wait and see, etc., etc. It’s baffling.


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Originally Posted by old goat

Doesn't it seem likely that we will be chasing mutations with yearly, or maybe less often vaccination? Although unless we wind up with a cheap, easy to make, easy to store, easy to give vaccine the challenge of maintaining an ongoing vaccination program with something like the Pfizer or Moderna will be daunting.

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I am already preparing for this to be a biannual vaccine. Not based on anything but gut instinct. 2nd dose in 30 minutes- Pfizer

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