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The hand washing is interesting statistically-speaking. The study looked at self-reported levels of hand washing and found correlation to moderate levels but no strong evidence for an increase at higher levels. Probably at least partly reflects diminishing returns, but it's also probable that moderate or greater hand washing correlated with good hygiene and better practices in other respects--including prevention of airborne transmission.
Or unreliability of self-report combined with high risk occupations (vs being OCD) that drive high HH rates like HCP or serving tables. I look at epic shit tons of observer based hand hygiene data and my level of trust in it... varies. But the reliability of good HH to prevent infection is one of the strongest known for individual human preventative action.Quote:
Originally Posted by jono
The study period was pre-COVID and looked at HCoVs, 3 of the 4, of which 2 (HCoV-229E and HCoV-OC43) are, after rhinovirus, the next most responsible for the common cold. Being fomite/contact/droplet borne, and given the lack of common masking in the culture/area/time studied (2006-2009 UK), it is a stretch to surmise there are hygienic practices in moderate handwashers that offered protection against droplet spread. The frequent handwashing findings weren't statistically significant despite results. Moderate hand washing was statistically significant.Quote:
probable that moderate or greater hand washing correlated with good hygiene and better practices in other respects--including prevention of airborne transmission.
Cover your cough and keep your distance from hacking people predates COVID, too. Unfortunately, so does the overzealous crusade against miasma as an allegedly superstitious belief, hence my skepticism. The higher level of washing also had a lower effectiveness (assuming we discount the higher P-value), hence "diminishing returns" as one cause. But the issues are apt to be "all of the above."
The self-reporting has problems both with accuracy and self-selection. These days it's probably more overlaid than before with personal risk assessment, too: people who take precautions because they perceive a higher risk will (if they're right) be more susceptible to start with, so studying masking and vaccines with backward-looking data gets an extra layer of confounding.
Interesting post Summit, was unaware of asymptomatic influenza but I have observation bias as all I see in clinical setting is obviously symptomatic.
Well a little over a year later and here we are again, upon initial testing we think the 5 year old brought it home this time. Hopefully my employer lets me burn covid days caring for a loved one, or all 4 of them. Otherwise i might come home to one or more fewer children than when i started .
Oh shit. If it gets to 72 you'll die.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
We will start him on a beta blocker at 65bpm.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
Woke up 36hr after the vaccination and was as good as before.Quote:
Originally Posted by twat
Happy to be fully loaded with antibodies.
And if i suddenly die, you all know in which statistic i belong..... the mysterious sudden deaths
Well, I tested positive today. Felt pretty good in the morning and by noon I knew something was up. Good thing we get sick days here in Germany. I’m gonna miss opening day at the ski hill though. First time I missed one since 1997
First tgiving back with family since ‘19. Fifteen people in one house. Good times and no COVID, but the youngest picked up Coxsackie and looks like the rest of us are in for a cold, all thanks to my brother’s snotty little vectors. :shrug:
Anyone got long Covid ?
https://www.brookings.edu/research/n...w-82HaYfw49wYE
I got this link from a writer i skied with who has been bed ridden for 11 months
It’ll be interesting to see results if/when brookings updates that #. Have a friend that works there and travels for work extensively to many nations. Haven’t seen a mask on that persons face in a long time from their travel photos.
Well my card is finally up. Travelled over Thanksgiving to see family. Drove 14 hrs both ways w/ wife/2 kids/dog. Wife started feeling something Thanksgiving morning but has tested negative 3x including this morning. We drove back home Sunday. Yesterday (Mon) afternoon I got progressively worse chills/aches/cough/tired. Last night kinda hit me like a ton of bricks. Slept for almost 12 hrs but woke up feeling shitty still. Positive at-home test this morning. Scheduled a PCR for noon for both of us.
Feel like garbage. Hope I bounce back quickly.
What’s the point of a PCR test when you popped positive on a home test and have all the symptoms of Covid?Quote:
Originally Posted by stapes
The only thing I wanted to do was to lay on the couch and sleep when I had it, no way was I dragging myself to get swabbed again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzworthy
Ya, what's the point now? Up until this summer, it was required for travel to Canada. You either needed a negative within 72 hours or a positive result between 10 and 180 days. Therefore the positive PCR had value. My wife had one that she used for precisely that purpose. That's in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzworthy
Only thing a PCR is good for is detecting sooner than a rapid test. If you're already + then ya, no point..
They still have free drive up PCR test place around the corner from here. I keep wondering WHY????
Is our gov still tracking positive pcr tests?
My county and state sure are. Or at least, when I did get a positive PCR test (not quite sure why I took the test when I was already testing positive on rapid tests, maybe curiosity) I started getting many emails and notifications from the local and state public health agencies. No idea if it was "tracked" beyond that.Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
Right, you were an anomaly, not because you had COVID, but because you chose to get a PCR and thereby report your COVID. That's why they are interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
His question was specifically about whether they were tracking positive PCR tests, not whether people were still getting PCR tests. I wasn't an anomaly, because by definition the question was about positive PCR tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by riser4
PCRs are tracked in aggregate by PH. State PH depts and CDC use them to calculate community levels and transmissions.
Are you notified about a positive test if you get a lab test? Yes... whether it is COVID, Flu, RSV, pseudomonas, you must be notified by a healthcare system/provider/lab.
Nobody is doing contact tracing anymore though (which was a fucking useless waste in *this* pandemic)
Thanks for responses about gov PH test tracking.
You are still an anomaly. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Danno