To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

Every situation is different.

But, if I had a friend who was anti-vax weird before pandemic - I'm a bit less judgy but I'm keeping them at arms length. File under: kooks.

However, if I had friends who are now suddenly anti-vax with overt political reasoning - yeah, fuck off. Done.

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Originally Posted by Buzzworthy

Why would it matter?
If you’re vaccinated, then you’re protecting yourself from bad symptoms and hospitalization.

This is the part I really don’t get. Who cares what their status is after all we’ve learned from Covid?

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Exactly.

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Originally Posted by ::: :::

cuz we're still passing it around
vax status being central to how quickly that happens, not to mention mutation continues as long as it has hosts
& not getting it is still important to many of us

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There are animal reservoirs for covid. It is never going away. It will become endemic and it will be part of life from this point forward.

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Originally Posted by NW_SKIER

Are you advocating for the judgement of others based on their personal choice?

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Curious what else you would judge them based on?

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Originally Posted by Buzzworthy

Why would it matter?
If you’re vaccinated, then you’re protecting yourself from bad symptoms and hospitalization.

This is the part I really don’t get. Who cares what their status is after all we’ve learned from Covid?

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Aside from the mutation and spread aspect…

What we’ve learned is that when there is a surge, hospitals fill up stressing the healthcare system. If everyone were vaccinated, these surges would likely be a lot more manageable.

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Originally Posted by Kopi_Red

There are animal reservoirs for covid. It is never going away. It will become endemic and it will be part of life from this point forward.

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the scale of animal vs human reservoirs is not comparable

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Originally Posted by funkendrenchman

Aside from the mutation and spread aspect…

What we’ve learned is that when there is a surge, hospitals fill up stressing the healthcare system. If everyone were vaccinated, these surges would likely be a lot more manageable.

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Yes, and not to mention that prior to the omicron variant being vaccinated clearly reduced your chances of getting Covid. Who's to say that won't be the case again with future variants? It's a matter of public health and that's why we should care whether or not others are vaxxed.

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Originally Posted by climberevan

Yeah, WTF? Of course I judge people on their choices, especially choices that impact others and society as a whole. That's the criteria we should use to judge people.

Covid denial and refusal to mask should be equated to drunk driving. The two choices are so similar, and yet no one gets on Team Drive Drunk as an expression of tribalism and freedumb.

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Taking it a step further, American society doesn't tolerate many completely harmless actions and behaviors. Walk around naked in public and you're getting arrested. The idea that potentially harmful decisions and behaviors should be respected is absurd.

Just got to get a plug in for the other side, Team pro-Drunk Driving. (2006 Daily Show)

https://www.cc.com/video/6mz4oj/the-...onkey-showdown

"Let the drunks have their time on the road."

Being anti CoVID vaccine is the same camp as all the anti vaccine people before CoVID ever existed.

Same thought process and denial of reality.

Tell me you and your kids are unvaccinated for any of the other endemic diseases we have because of “reasons” and I’m going to mentally file you in the nut job category.

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Originally Posted by ::: :::

cuz we're still passing it around
vax status being central to how quickly that happens, not to mention mutation continues as long as it has hosts
& not getting it is still important to many of us

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+1 Thank you. skiJ

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Originally Posted by funkendrenchman

If everyone were vaccinated, these surges would likely be a lot more manageable.

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And let’s get right back to reality folks.
That’s never going to happen.
Period.

So you do what you can for yourself at this point. It’s not going away and we are going to have to live with the virus around us and in other people. If you can’t understand this statement, well that’s a you problem.
It’s time to move on from the craziness and get life moving again, as safely as possible.

Don’t get me wrong, it’d be fantastic is everyone was vaccinated/boosted. I’m 100% pro vax.

I’m also 100% reality.

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Originally Posted by The AD

Yes, and not to mention that prior to the omicron variant being vaccinated clearly reduced your chances of getting Covid. Who's to say that won't be the case again with future variants? It's a matter of public health and that's why we should care whether or not others are vaxxed.

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I care.
I just can’t do a damn thing about it though.

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Originally Posted by Mofro261

Just got to get a plug in for the other side, Team pro-Drunk Driving. (2006 Daily Show)

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"Let us have two days"

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Originally Posted by Cisco Kid

I might have smiled at my friend and said "Thanks for sharing. I guess? 100 people will die from it while we eat but I'm protected. How's your soup?"

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Jesus H Christ, get off your high horse.

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Originally Posted by Buzzworthy

And let’s get right back to reality folks.
That’s never going to happen.
Period.

So you do what you can for yourself at this point. It’s not going away and we are going to have to live with the virus around us and in other people. If you can’t understand this statement, well that’s a you problem.
It’s time to move on from the craziness and get life moving again, as safely as possible.

Don’t get me wrong, it’d be fantastic is everyone was vaccinated/boosted. I’m 100% pro vax.

I’m also 100% reality.

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^^^^This right here^^^^

As long as the healthcare systems are keeping up life is mostly back to normal thank ULLR..

only if you mean the new normal

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Originally Posted by Ted Striker

only if you mean the new normal

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Correct, and there will be another "new normal" after the next thing.. Just like the last "new normal" was in the wake of the AIDS epidemic.

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Originally Posted by Buzzworthy

Jesus H Christ, get off your high horse.

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I really enjoy mini-horses.
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Originally Posted by Trackhead

I really enjoy mini-horses.
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When you say "enjoy"... you mean in a Biblical sense?

NTTAWWT.

:D

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Originally Posted by skaredshtles

When you say "enjoy"... you mean in a Biblical sense?

NTTAWWT.

:D

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I'm sorry. There's a lot wrong with that. There's an unequal power relationship between horses and people. Horses cannot give meaningful consent, even if they could talk. (Don't believe Mr. Ed. That was fake news.)

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Originally Posted by Trackhead

I really enjoy mini-horses.
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My little pony, my little pony


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Originally Posted by skaredshtles

When you say "enjoy"... you mean in a Biblical sense?

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Huzzah!

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Originally Posted by old goat

I'm sorry. There's a lot wrong with that. There's an unequal power relationship between horses and people. Horses cannot give meaningful consent, even if they could talk. (Don't believe Mr. Ed. That was fake news.)

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I was assuming he had a certain... rapport with the equine. My bad.

If any of you come to the PNW to ski Crystal, don't stop in Enumclaw.

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Originally Posted by skaredshtles

When you say "enjoy"... you mean in a Biblical sense?

NTTAWWT.

:D

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You can interpret however suits you, much like the covid science of our times.