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My thought is that the owner in HB is doing it to get more business, especially tourists.Are they a known covid conspiracy type.
In my neck of the woods, there were several restaurants and bars that never closed down their indoor operations, even after they loss their licenses. They became attractions in the region. A anti-covid tourist destination.
Politically, OC looks to be in the midst of a transition.
That was cathartic in every sense of the word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tri-Ungulate
OK -Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
so describe for me exactly how one would prove that they have not been vaxxed?
Since it’s socal, maybe show your “SS” tattoo?
They ask every patron "where was Obama born?"Quote:
Originally Posted by TBS
Yeah, I needed to get that offa my chest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzworthy
I mean, I spend all my goddamn time at my job worrying about people who have compromised immune systems, trying to keep 'em alive, and fetid pools of diarrhea like Core Shit like to troll about how "the vax don't work" and "going full Sweden" 'cuz his solipsistic pansy ass fucking "can’t take another lockdown maskdown" when it's asshats like him that contribute to cases breaking through the vaccination.
Stupid motherfucker.
For sure it fucking triggers me after a long day of work, and maybe a beer or two.
I felt that way, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzworthy
See if a magnet sticks to your skin, duh. Try to keep up. [emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by TBS
I thought it was to see if a potato sticks to your arm? I just can't seem to keep up with all this sciencey shit...Quote:
Originally Posted by neufox47
My opinion is like my asshole
Sometimes it’s full of shit.
Potatoes are batteries man. Musk is launching the new tesla with 500 pounds of French fries.Quote:
Originally Posted by k2skier112
so your sayin blurred is a tesla automotive engine specialist as well as lead fry cook now?
I don't think this is completely correct. Delta is ~60% more transmissible than Alpha, and may or may not be more virulent, but I haven't seen any new research contradicting our understanding that Delta is not a significantly greater concern to the vaccinated (it may be out there, I haven't read everything). The vaccines seem to be doing a good job of protecting against Delta. Provided you have received 2 doses of vaccine (as Mofro pointed out pages ago) and 14 days have passed since your second vaccine, then you are considered fully vaxed (as Riser pointed out pages ago) and should wear a mask indoors to prevent spread to the unvaxinated.Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
Reading over yesterday's CDC mask recommendation update, it is clear that the goal of wearing masks now is the same as it has been all pandemic: to protect the healthcare infrastructure from being saturated and overwhelmed, not to protect the vaccinated (the vaccines are doing that). I believe it's completely tied to increasing case number.
That said: while the vaccines have turned out to be incredibly effective, and being vaccinated is the best measure you can take to protect yourself, they aren't 100% perfect. If I had comorbidities (>65 years old, obese, immunocompromised, etc.), I would absolutely be wearing a mask right now even though I'm fully vaccinated.
I was surprisedby that out of Ch.
Also surprised it was quite regional
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Originally Posted by subtle plague
The long term protective data from Pfizer is starting to come in (randomized trial). New preprint
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....28.21261159v1
Any symptomatic infection
2 months 96%
2-4 months 90%
4-6 months 84%
For protection vs severe illness solid all the way through at least 6 months *97%*
I haven’t heard it yet, but the CEO of Pfizer is on today’s released In The Bubble podcast, hosted by Andy Slavitt: https://lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble/
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93% vax rate around here; 86% with two doses. Pretty happy about that.
Herd immunity for the Brits?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...2d8_story.html
LONDON — This is a puzzler. Covid cases are plummeting in Britain. They were supposed to soar. The scientists are not sure why.
The daily number of new infections recorded in the United Kingdom has fallen for seven days in a row — to 23,511. That is half what it was one week ago.
People are asking if could this be the first real-world evidence that the pandemic in Britain is sputtering out — after three national lockdowns and almost 130,000 deaths?
Public health experts are perplexed: Where is the uptick, let alone the surge?
The highly contagious delta variant of the virus, first detected in India, accounts for almost all new cases in Britain. Pubs are serving pints at the rail, throngs are packing the beaches, and night clubs have reopened with maskless youths crowded on the dance floors. Then there was the Euro 2020 soccer madness. England did indeed party most heartily.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s government ended almost all government mandates in England for mask-wearing and social distancing on July 19, dubbed “Freedom Day” by the press. Viral defense is now a “personal choice.”
Public health experts, alongside the government, predicted that cases would rise, perhaps even soar, in the weeks after Freedom Day. Some of the best infectious-disease modelers on the planet warned that 100,000 new cases a day this summer could be expected.
But cases have been dropping, even as hospitalizations and deaths climb.
Scientists have theories. Maybe it’s the sunshine? There was a week-long heat wave.
Schools have closed for the summer break, so children are not spreading the virus as much.
It is also possible that people have stopped getting tested — because if they test positive, even if they are fully vaccinated, they are asked to quarantine for 10 days, even if they are about to travel to France for their holidays.
Or maybe Britain has reached the threshold for herd immunity. More than 70 percent of adults in Britain are fully vaccinated, and 88 percent have had a first dose, one of the best vaccine uptakes in the world. Among those who have not been vaccinated, many have had covid or asymptomatic infection, adding to natural immunity.
Scientists just starting to figure out that the virus acts in ways they don't entirely understand? Just amazing. The same thing is going to happen in the US. We are at the early stage of this surge, and in a few weeks cases will fall off a cliff regardless of any interventions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
Remember the TGR experts pushing people who already had COVID to get vaccinated because the vaccines gave better immunity?
"By contrast, Israelis who were vaccinated were 6.72 times more likely to get infected after the shot than after natural infection, with over 3,000 of the 5,193,499, or 0.0578%, of Israelis who were vaccinated getting infected in the latest wave."
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/N...ws.aspx/309762
99.999% of the people in TGR think you are an asshole. Does that make you an asshole?
israelnationalnews is talking directly to people who, like you, are among the least likely to get the shot. So, it is hard to see why they wouldn't run with a story based on some preliminary and somewhat dubious numbers.
Maybe I shouldn't presume though, did you get shots, Ron?
Israel has encouraged recovered Covid patients to get vaccinated. It has been known for a long time that recovered Covid patients who get vaccinated have stronger immunity than the “only” vaccinated. Do you have any data to show that vaccinated recovered Covid patients were more likely to get Covid than recovered Covid patients? Do you have any data to show that the population of recovered patients were not also vaccinated? No? Then what is your point other than you have once again illustrated you lack a basic understanding of math and statistics?Quote:
Originally Posted by ron johnson
I like how you ignore the fact that the vaccinated are wayyy less likely to get Covid than the unvaccinated too.
Hmmmmm.... gots to ask WWJD?
"I meant what I said," pastor doubles down on church's mask ban
NASHVILLE, TN (WSMV) - A Mount Juliet Pastor who is no stranger to making headlines is once again raising eyebrows for his church's ban on masks.
Greg Locke, pastor at the Global Vision Church, has told followers that they will be asked to leave 'the tent' if they show up in masks.
"We will escort you to the door," Locke said in a recent video from his RV in Florida.
"We are a place of faith, not a place of fear," Locke went on to say. "I'm digging my heels in and I'm not changing my mind."
Locke has come under question in the recent years, most recently after having pardoned Trump ally Roger Stone speak to his congregation shortly after getting out of jail.
Locke's message Tuesday comes hours after the CDC issued a recommendation that even vaccinated people should be wearing masks indoors and in certain social settings in states where the virus is surging.
Evangelical pastor demands churchgoers ditch their masks: ‘Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense’
Since the early months of the coronavirus pandemic, Greg Locke, the pastor at a Nashville-area church, has repeatedly called covid a hoax, undermined emergency mandates and refused to comply with guidance from public health officials.
This week, Locke took his defiance a step further, making a sharp warning regarding mask-wearing.
If “you start showing up [with] all these masks and all this nonsense, I will ask you to leave,” Locke, 45, told scores of Global Vision Bible Church parishioners during his sermon on Sunday. His statement was followed by cheers and applause.
“I am not playing these Democrat games up in this church,” he added.
Global Vision Bible Church did not immediately respond to The Washington Post’s request for comment.
Locke’s fiery five-minute diatribe, in which he also denied the existence of the delta variant, comes as vaccination rates in his home state slow and infection rates climb. So far, about 44 percent of Tennesseans have received at least one dose of the vaccine, according to The Washington Post’s vaccine tracker, making it among the states with the lowest rate. The state recently reported that 98 percent of people who died of covid and 97 percent of covid hospitalizations are among the unvaccinated.
The vaccine rollout in Tennessee made national headlines after the controversial firing of the state’s top immunization official, Michelle Fiscus, on July 12. Fiscus’s firing was the casualty of the Tennessee Department of Health’s campaign to encourage teenagers to get vaccinated against the coronavirus. The effort attracted ire from Republican state lawmakers.
In an interview with WTVF on Monday, Fiscus said Tenn. Gov. Bill Lee (R) consistently resisted the state’s promotion of the vaccine.
“I feel like the [health] department was gagged,” she said.
Locke’s evangelical church in Mount Juliet, Tenn., about 20 miles east of downtown Nashville, has grown during the pandemic, CNN reported. The pastor’s controversial commentary on covid and the 2020 presidential election has attracted far-right churchgoers.
During a sermon last month, Locke called President Biden a fraud and “a sex trafficking, demon-possessed mongrel,” a reference to QAnon, an extremist ideology based on false claims.
He has also falsely claimed the pandemic is “fake,” the death count is “manipulated,” and the vaccine is a “dangerous scam.”
And the pastor has preached misinformation about the vaccine, including falsely claiming it’s made of “aborted fetal tissue.”
During a sermon in May, Locke told churchgoers that he wasn’t getting the vaccine and would refuse to promote it.
“I discourage everybody under this tent to get it,” he said, according to CNN.
Locke has also openly defied the state’s emergency mandates. In July 2020, he posted on Facebook that the church was remaining open and that people did not have to wear masks or social distance.
“I don’t care if they send the military, they roll up in there with tanks … ladies and gentleman, we are staying open,” he said, according to Newsweek. “We are packed to capacity. You ain’t gotta wear a mask.”
Strutting back and forth on a stage beneath a sprawling red-and-white striped circus tent on Sunday, Locke launched into yet another impassioned monologue. This time, he warned churchgoers to not wear masks and railed against the possibility of more shutdowns.
“They will be serving Frostys in hell before we shut this place down, just because a buck wild, demon-possessed government tells us to,” Locke said, referencing the frozen dessert from Wendy’s.
“Don’t believe this delta variant nonsense,” he continued. “Stop it!”
He advised parishioners who are looking for services with social distancing “don’t come to this one” and chastised other churches for following public health advisories and abstaining from certain rituals as cases rise.
“A bunch of pastors talking about how much they want to see people heal, and they’re afraid to baptize people because of a delta variant — I’m sick of it,” Locke said. “I ain’t playing these stupid games.”
Toward the end of his rant, Locke made one final warning.
“I’m going to be a problem moving forward,” he said. “I’m not giving in to this mess.”