To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

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Originally Posted by ötzi

Yeah but I can't remember a thing he posted until this episode. Drawing a blank.

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Yeah but you’ll remember this. Added to ignore.

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Originally Posted by ötzi

Yeah but I can't remember a thing he posted until this episode. Drawing a blank.

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Cryogenics via glacier is presumed to have that effect.

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Originally Posted by ötzi

Yeah but I can't remember a thing he posted until this episode. Drawing a blank.

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7,000 posts?

Why did admins allow user name changes
He had to have another name.

Back to rna, the bright side could be its safer than traditional vax since you’re only introducing (via replication) spike proteins?

Question? Why such quick reactions by some with allergies?
I would think replication would take some time after im injection.
And yet Uk is requiring injection sites have rescue equipment.

Is it adjuvants or something in the rna delivery soup?

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Originally Posted by Core Shot

7,000 posts?

Why did admins allow user name changes
He had to have another name.

Back to rna, the bright side could be its safer than traditional vax since you’re only introducing (via replication) spike proteins?

Question? Why such quick reactions by some with allergies?
I would think replication would take some time after im injection.
And yet Uk is requiring injection sites have rescue equipment.

Is it adjuvants or something in the rna delivery soup?

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I actually posted SKIING stoke around here.

Do people even ski on this forum or is all a bunch of old pussies?

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Originally Posted by BCMtnHound

Cryogenics via glacier is presumed to have that effect.

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Well that and bleeding out from an arrow. Can't be good for the brain.

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Originally Posted by abraham

Well that and bleeding out from an arrow. Can't be good for the brain.

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Might have been an early attempt at fluid replacement with anti-freeze alcohol. Unfortunately matching bleed-out with intestinal absorption was miscalculated.

Yeah I gotta stop doing that.

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Originally Posted by pappag

Do people even ski on this forum or is all a bunch of old pussies?

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Yes, old pussies. You might want to head over to AlpineZone. I hear that's where the skiers are.

Now THAT was funny.

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Originally Posted by Mofro261

Viral vectors are designed to deliver most of the proteins needed from viral replication, but instead of the structural genes needed to make the virus particle, the gene of interest is inserted where these would be. All of those other proteins can also generate immune responses that would be considered "off target". This can skew the immune response away from the "target" immunogen, or create a scenario where if a boost is needed, immunity against the other bits prevents the "target" from being made the second time.

Viral vectors and cancer- this occurs when bit of the viral vector get integrated into the host chromosome through homologous recombination. If this happens in a gene, esp a gene involved with cellular regulation, abherrent growth or "cancer" could be a result.

mRNA does not homologously recombine with DNA however- the change from DNA (Thymidine) to RNA (Uracil) prevents the proper hydrogen bonding from occurring. Morever, RNA translation occurs in the cytoplasm and the rough ER, not in the nucleus.

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IT'S A HYDROGEN BOMB!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfilaKrnAhQ

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Originally Posted by pappag

I actually posted SKIING stoke around here.

Do people even ski on this forum or is all a bunch of old pussies?

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Dude's a fukkin' maggot who has posted plenty of stoke in the past.

Senility's a bitch, eh, ladies? But I ain't defending his bullshit.

After seeing his poliass posts here in the padded room, in this thread, I want nothing to do with the motherfucker.

Nothing like a little baby pandemic to strip away the facades of rationality, eh?

The only thing I fear in this shit show is the lack of responsibility and humanity.
Oh, and hideous hags going commando and airing their funky fruit.

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Originally Posted by ötzi

Yeah but I can't remember a thing he posted until this episode. Drawing a blank.

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I recall him posting in the burning man thread.

I dunno whether his ‘regurgitate dumbass magatard talking points’ schtick is Andy Kaufman cosplay or not.

It's quite the conundrum for Trump cult followers. They are fearful people when it comes to things they don't understand. You know, like math, science, reading big words that they can't pronounce.

Besides, what's a Trump cult follower to think when all they are told by their dear cult leader is that the virus is a hoax. Even though their cult leader was infected and hospitalized by it. If Trump had been any average over weight American, unemployed, with no health coverage living in a red state with marginal health care services, they would probably end up in the ICU, or worse.

So, now what's a Trump anti-vaxxer cult follower to do after their cult leader tells them that he is the Messiah, bringing gifts of vaccines that the American taxpayer footed the bill for?

Many a Trump cult follower is struggling with trying to process facts and logic and I'm sure it's causing a lot of mental stress and emotional outbursts.

But if their cult leader tells them to take the vaccine, they will comply, and do as they are told. Otherwise they risk being ridiculed and ostracized by their cult.

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Originally Posted by frorider

I recall him posting in the burning man thread.

I dunno whether his ‘regurgitate dumbass magatard talking points’ schtick is Andy Kaufman cosplay or not.

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/lulz. thanks.

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net...eb&oe=5FF7E9E2

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Originally Posted by pappag

I actually posted SKIING stoke around here.

Do people even ski on this forum or is all a bunch of old pussies?

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Ok Mr Papageorgio

Now get off my lawn!

One of the problems with the current vaccination plans are that they will be giving it to people without seeing if they have had COVID-19 first.

If they tested people for neutralizing antibodies first, then inoculated those that test positive last, the initial vaccine supplies would last a lot longer and more people could get vaccinated that actually need it!

The tests ARE available. Health Canada has so far resisted them. And the same tests could be used by anyone to test themselves and self-quarantine.

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Originally Posted by Toadman

But if their cult leader tells them to take the vaccine, they will comply, and do as they are told. Otherwise they risk being ridiculed and ostracized by their cult.

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I don't know if his followers will comply. I bet a lot won't, actually, because as you point out, they are extremely fearful of science and government, and the vax is a good dose of both. But you're right, there are a lot of Trump followers struggling with the conflicting messages right now. The virus is a hoax--now roll up your sleeve so we can inject you. Kinda like the election: the voting machines are rigged--but we need you to go vote anyway.

Do we care if they get vaccinated? Maybe we should start a GoFundMe to pay them not to. [emoji3] Kidding, of course. Only kidding.

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Originally Posted by yeahman

I don't know if his followers will comply. I bet a lot won't, actually, because as you point out, they are extremely fearful of science and government, and the vax is a good dose of both. But you're right, there are a lot of Trump followers struggling with the conflicting messages right now. The virus is a hoax--now roll up your sleeve so we can inject you. Kinda like the election: the voting machines are rigged--but we need you to go vote anyway.

Do we care if they get vaccinated? Maybe we should start a GoFundMe to pay them not to. [emoji3] Kidding, of course. Only kidding.

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With everything, its not that simple.

Case in point, my entire family are all currently fervent Trump supporters. Funny thing is they weren't 4 years ago, just conservative McCain/Romney types that "hated" him, but by now it's a disease that spread.

However, my older parents/aunts/uncles are chomping at the bit to get the vaccine and are actually super stoked for it, even half my younger cousins. Actually, its just my retarded brother and one cousin that is on the vax is bad train.

Either way, its all very confusing and I'm super glad I've had this excuse for T-giving and xmas to not to have to go home!

There is this idea that 'fervent Trump supporters' are jab-phobic.
I dunno. As far as I can tell, most of the people that I see posting 'sorry - I'll wait' posts about the vaccine, are in fact Trump haters.
Not sure what the market research illumninati have officially determined but the hesitancy seems both uniform and durable across polyass lines.

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Originally Posted by Soups

With everything, its not that simple.

Case in point, my entire family are all currently fervent Trump supporters. Funny thing is they weren't 4 years ago, just conservative McCain/Romney types that "hated" him, but by now it's a disease that spread.

However, my older parents/aunts/uncles are chomping at the bit to get the vaccine and are actually super stoked for it, even half my younger cousins. Actually, its just my retarded brother and one cousin that is on the vax is bad train.

Either way, its all very confusing and I'm super glad I've had this excuse for T-giving and xmas to not to have to go home!

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25% are antivaxxers...that's scary. If that trend is nationwide we're going to be looking at a long time before there is herd immunity

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Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

25% are antivaxxers...that's scary. If that trend is nationwide we're going to be looking at a long time before there is herd immunity

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25% of what? Trump supporters or general population?

Either way. Guarantee more than 25% of the general population doesn't get the vaccine. Way more.

Whatever, I'll get it and my parents will too. I'm good to maybe have an 11th toe and my parents stay alive for another decade.

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Originally Posted by Soups

25% of what? Trump supporters or general population?

Either way. Guarantee more than 25% of the general population doesn't get the vaccine. Way more.

Whatever, I'll get it and my parents will too. I'm good to maybe have an 11th toe and my parents stay alive for another decade.

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I'm not knocking you. Just pointing out that 2 people in your family out of an unknown denominator, I assumed 8, are not getting it. This from a normal sounding, albeit conservative leaning family.

Agreeing that it's much much higher than 25%...which is scary and sad.

Agreed

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Originally Posted by Soups

Agreed

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Fwiw I'm in the same boat. At least 4 in my crew saying no vaxx...why? Because just like the flu and they don't know about their kids because, both girls, might want to get pregnant...their girls are 16 and 18. WTF?

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