To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

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Originally Posted by mtuhockey33

I mean Gates has been making “vaccines” for years. The problem comes in when his “vaccines” exacerbate instead of help the problem. Add that onto the fact that he willingly went onto CNBC and boasted about how much money he was going to make off of the vaccines he makes.

it’s all about greed.

CNBC source: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/23/bill...c-benefit.html

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You’re a special kind of stupid. Gates was estimating the possible economic benefits for the impoverished people receiving the vaccines and the communities they live in.

Too many concussions playing hockey?


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Originally Posted by mtuhockey33

I mean Gates has been making “vaccines” for years. The problem comes in when his “vaccines” exacerbate instead of help the problem. Add that onto the fact that he willingly went onto CNBC and boasted about how much money he was going to make off of the vaccines he makes.

it’s all about greed.

CNBC source: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/23/bill...c-benefit.html

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Reread that.

The point that is missed in mtuhockey's post is that it's Gates' Foundation that's given over $10B toward vaccine and other global health donations that's created $200B in economic gain. The Foundation GIVES away the money, there's no direct financial return to Gates or the Foundation. That's kind of the point of their philanthropy.

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Originally Posted by mtuhockey33

I mean Gates has been making “vaccines” for years. The problem comes in when his “vaccines” exacerbate instead of help the problem. Add that onto the fact that he willingly went onto CNBC and boasted about how much money he was going to make off of the vaccines he makes.

it’s all about greed.

CNBC source: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/23/bill...c-benefit.html

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stop drinking bleach

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Originally Posted by GoldMember

I hope your wife was adopted for your sake.

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I laffed. Kudos!

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Originally Posted by old goat

“When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”

― G.K. Chesterton

I think it's time to revise the quote--When people choose to believe in god they then become capable of believing in anything.

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Idunno, man. I think the original quote likely applies here without modification.

A lot of (probably the vast majority of?) people who are into this weird conspiracy theory shit are not religious in a way that would make any sense to, say, a run of the mill churchgoing Congregationalist or Presbyterian from 100 years ago.

It seems to me like the collapse of mainline American Protestantism over the past generation or two has left a vacuum that is filled with horseshit from Facebook for a lot of people. For some of these kooks, it's in the form of Joel Osteen memes or Trump idolatry or wild conspiracy theories or a combination of all 3. But it's fucking sad.

I'm sure there's plenty of ink that has been spilled by some sociologist or anthropologist about the phenomenon. I don't know that there is any "fix" for it, either.

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Originally Posted by mtuhockey33

I mean Gates has been making “vaccines” for years. The problem comes in when his “vaccines” exacerbate instead of help the problem. Add that onto the fact that he willingly went onto CNBC and boasted about how much money he was going to make off of the vaccines he makes.

it’s all about greed.

CNBC source: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/23/bill...c-benefit.html

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What really put me off was when he rubbed his hands together and went "money, money, money, money, money, money, money" and then out a "bwahahahhahhaha" laugh. He also left without tipping the doorman.

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Originally Posted by Ted Striker

Of all the people to choose from, why Bill Gates?

If they had any wherewithal, they'd have gone with Zuck



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IMO the reasons Bill Gates did so well was because IBM was just so fucking stupid,

Big Blue made all that money making computers the size of mini vans and competing against themselves so they built the PC, ignored it / left the architecture open

the world would be different if they kept the lid on the PC

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Originally Posted by XXX-er

IMO the reasons Bill Gates did so well was because IBM was just so fucking stupid,

Big Blue made all that money making computers the size of mini vans and competing against themselves so they built the PC, ignored it / left the architecture open

the world would be different if they kept the lid on the PC

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OS/2 fo' lyfe, yo!

:D

OS2 was actualy very stable, running windows in OS2 was more stable than windows on its own

i watched all kinds of stupid for 30 yrs that was probably the biggest stupid, now I just spend the money they send on the 1st of every month

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Originally Posted by GoldMember

Holee shit.... I hope you live as far away as possible from your SIL and I would encourage your MIL to move in with her. Don't walk, run away from the craziness. And, for what it's worth, takes about ten seconds of Googling to find the patent numbers. I don't see any possible combination of 666 in any that I found here.

https://mkus3lurbh3lbztg254fzode-wpe...-landscape.pdf

I hope your wife was adopted for your sake.

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Bro, google is in on it... do YOUR RESEaRCH

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Originally Posted by skaredshtles

OS/2 fo' lyfe, yo!

:D

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Yo!

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Originally Posted by Sirshredalot

Idunno, man. I think the original quote likely applies here without modification.

A lot of (probably the vast majority of?) people who are into this weird conspiracy theory shit are not religious in a way that would make any sense to, say, a run of the mill churchgoing Congregationalist or Presbyterian from 100 years ago.

It seems to me like the collapse of mainline American Protestantism over the past generation or two has left a vacuum that is filled with horseshit from Facebook for a lot of people. For some of these kooks, it's in the form of Joel Osteen memes or Trump idolatry or wild conspiracy theories or a combination of all 3. But it's fucking sad.

I'm sure there's plenty of ink that has been spilled by some sociologist or anthropologist about the phenomenon. I don't know that there is any "fix" for it, either.

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This was my first thought, too. The ones I know that are all-in seem to be suffering a sort of "losing my religion" kind of moment in all this.

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Originally Posted by Sirshredalot

I'm sure there's plenty of ink that has been spilled by some sociologist or anthropologist about the phenomenon.

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There is, and it goes along the lines of when a person feels hopeless/powerless to affect meaningful change in their lives/circumstances they're prone to embrace some type of fatalism.

Maybe not the fix, but a fix would be a more egalitarian society.

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Originally Posted by Ted Striker

Of all the people to choose from, why Bill Gates?

If they had any wherewithal, they'd have gone with Zuck

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Funny thing is--if Zuckerberg had anything to do with vaccines they probably would come with implantable chips.

I'm going to stick with my version of the quote--while I'm sure there are plenty of atheists who believe in the conspiracy shit it seems an awful lot of conspiracists are evangelicals, ultraorthodox Jews, or radical Islamists. I mean think about it--isn't the idea that there is some kind of supreme being that created the world, controls human affairs like the outcome of football games, speaks directly to prophets and the occasional POTUS, and plans to suck a bunch of his believers (it's not clear which ones) up to heaven before he destroys the world pretty much the ultimate conspiracy theory?

The chips would have an AI that was written by a team so that no one individual knew exactly how it worked.

...or how to stop it.

As more and more people got the chip, they would gestalt into a borg-like collective, assimilating and replacing humanity as we know it.

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Originally Posted by Ted Striker

There is, and it goes along the lines of when a person feels hopeless/powerless to affect meaningful change in their lives/circumstances they're prone to embrace some type of fatalism.

Maybe not the fix, but a fix would be a more egalitarian society.

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I don't know that I would call it fatalism as such, but I have read that these conspiracy theories are appealing to people who feel they have little control over their lives. It's in some sense more appealing to believe that there is some scheme working behind the scenes and powerful, invisible forces pulling the levers of history than it is to face the reality of your own finite existence in the face of forces of nature and society that are extremely complex. I think that's what you're getting at, more or less?

I think that a healthy religious practice can give people the opportunity to engage with these feelings of smallness in a way that helps them to be better people and more able to cope with day to day life. To what extent is the white Methodist Church being replaced with televangelists and Facebook Trump/QAnon groups? I'm not sure, but it doesn't seem like a good trade-off for individuals or for society if that's the trade we're making.

And, to be clear, If that's the problem we are looking at, I don't have a fix for it.


Maybe more egalitarian economic policies would make people less likely to bathe themselves in neo-fascist politics and conspiracy theories, but I'm not convinced that is an answer either. The worst brain worms seem to be among fairly well-off - if not necessarily well-educated - boomers and older Gen Xers. They grew up in an America that was more egalitarian than ours! And look at the UK. They seem to have a problem with the same kind of kooks even though they have fully automated luxury gay space communism for a healthcare system.

I don't know what to do about it. I occasionally yell at my parents to stay the fuck off Facebook, etc. But they're only hitting their late 60s and early 70s now. That might be an uphill battle once cognitive decline has really taken hold in ten or twenty years.

Anyhow, I'll be the first in line for my 'rona vaccine as soon as I've got the green light to line up. Vaxx me up!

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The world is empty and meaningless

until you give it some

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Originally Posted by XXX-er

OS2 was actualy very stable, running windows in OS2 was more stable than windows on its own

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OS2 had Presentation Manager, it's own gui.

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Originally Posted by mtuhockey33

I mean Gates has been making “vaccines” for years. The problem comes in when his “vaccines” exacerbate instead of help the problem. Add that onto the fact that he willingly went onto CNBC and boasted about how much money he was going to make off of the vaccines he makes.

it’s all about greed.

CNBC source: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/23/bill...c-benefit.html

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I’m typically not a fan of banning people, but that post was so tremendously stupid I’d be in favor of banning you. There’s no possible way anyone dumb enough to come to those conclusions can possibly have anything of value to add on other topics.

You should abandon this forum and keep your opinions to yourself for the rest of your miserable life. Any conversation would be better without your input, any debate better without your ideas, any room is made collectively dumber with your presence.

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Originally Posted by Buster Highmen

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OS2 had Presentation Manager, it's own gui.

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well what does that mean to you?

i think OS2 was IBM saying ok we are serious about this now but too late

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Originally Posted by Sirshredalot

I don't know that I would call it fatalism as such, but I have read that these conspiracy theories are appealing to people who feel they have little control over their lives. It's in some sense more appealing to believe that there is some scheme working behind the scenes and powerful, invisible forces pulling the levers of history than it is to face the reality of your own finite existence in the face of forces of nature and society that are extremely complex. I think that's what you're getting at, more or less?

I think that a healthy religious practice can give people the opportunity to engage with these feelings of smallness in a way that helps them to be better people and more able to cope with day to day life. To what extent is the white Methodist Church being replaced with televangelists and Facebook Trump/QAnon groups? I'm not sure, but it doesn't seem like a good trade-off for individuals or for society if that's the trade we're making.

And, to be clear, If that's the problem we are looking at, I don't have a fix for it.


Maybe more egalitarian economic policies would make people less likely to bathe themselves in neo-fascist politics and conspiracy theories, but I'm not convinced that is an answer either. The worst brain worms seem to be among fairly well-off - if not necessarily well-educated - boomers and older Gen Xers. They grew up in an America that was more egalitarian than ours! And look at the UK. They seem to have a problem with the same kind of kooks even though they have fully automated luxury gay space communism for a healthcare system.

I don't know what to do about it. I occasionally yell at my parents to stay the fuck off Facebook, etc. But they're only hitting their late 60s and early 70s now. That might be an uphill battle once cognitive decline has really taken hold in ten or twenty years.

Anyhow, I'll be the first in line for my 'rona vaccine as soon as I've got the green light to line up. Vaxx me up!

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Interesting post.

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Originally Posted by XXX-er

well what does that mean to you?

i think OS2 was IBM saying ok we are serious about this now but too late

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It means OS/2 didn't run windows, it was it's own deal and msft faked an effort to get windows apps to run in OS/2 while Chairman Bill cracked the whip to get us to write NT well after OS/2 had started.

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Originally Posted by nest

Interesting post.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...ories.amp.html

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...111/jopy.12588