To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

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Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

Your response was super enlightening.

As for my question.. General vent about the new polio cases in NYC and if there's any chance of it becoming a "thing" elsewhere or not..

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One reason the duration of protection from childhood polio vaccine is unknown is that there has been no case of polio acquired in the US in over 40 years. I assume similar statistics apply in other countries that have very high rates of full vaccination. With the virus apparently circulating in NY--despite no new clinical cases other than the case of the unvaccinated person who acquired the infection overseas--we may get to find out if protection wanes.

Of course if a vaccinated person gets polio it may be because the person is severely immunocompromised, not because the vaccination was too long before.

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Originally Posted by Harry

SumJongGuy is full of shit.

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Ya think?

I only look at these threads to see what kinda stupid shit he’s spouting off about.

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Originally Posted by Harry

SumJongGuy is full of shit.

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You're right. I can't find anything referencing where I saw that. Might have been MMR or something else who knows..

My grandfather wasn't in the 12th mountain division.. it was the 12th Armored Division (Artillery Commander).

Cheney isn't running in Montana, it's Wyoming. I am, indeed full of shit. You can quote me..

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Originally Posted by thebirdhunter

Ya think?

I only look at these threads to see what kinda stupid shit he’s spouting off about.

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You know you love me..

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Originally Posted by thebirdhunter

Ya think?

I only look at these threads to see what kinda stupid shit he’s spouting off about.

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I have him on ignore as a timesaver because his posts are so consistently idiotically worthless.

Apparently the polio virus in wastewater has been there since April. The NYS case was genotyped as attenuated vaccine virus from oral vaccine that ciruclated in an unvaccinated community and mutated into a paralytic strain. I believe the NY patient is a Haridi Jew who was exposed out of the country, I'm guessing in the Orthodox community in Israel. There is no religious doctrine against vaccination in Judaism but the ultra Orthodox communities are very isolated and rumors and fake news spreads in them like, well, viruses.

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Originally Posted by summit

I have him on ignore as a timesaver because his posts are so consistently idiotically worthless.

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At least his username checks out, so he’s got that going for him.

So despite our best efforts including quadruple vaccinations Ms TBS and I both have da Covid. The vector - 3YO granddaughter that stayed with us last week.
She tested pos on Monday. Never saw cold symptoms when she was here. Prolly picked it up at her preschool

We felt fine Monday, got symptoms yesterday but tested neg - pos today.

It’s been light chills, itchy eyes and stuffy head for me - basic mild headcold

Ms TBS’ symptoms much worse - prolly because she takes meds that compromise her immune system. Sez she feels a lot better today though

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Originally Posted by summit

I have him on ignore as a timesaver because his posts are so consistently idiotically worthless.

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Same

Please
Be well, TBS !

tj

Hang tough, Mr and Mrs TBS. Beer and pizza on me when you can’t infect me. ;-)

NYC infectious disease doctor's Covid treatment recs. Dr. Daniel Griffin as seen on TWiV.
https://twiv.s3.amazonaws.com/treatm...ary+081322.pdf

TBS may find something of value, especially the various post-exposure options. Best to get them early if you qualify. Best wishes.

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Originally Posted by old goat

According to the CDC duration of protection is unknown. People at high risk--whatever that means--"can" get a booster.

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News tonight said additional polio booster no bueno.

I can still remember getting my final booster. I'm old enough that I was given the live (weakened) virus. They don't do that anymore.

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Originally Posted by LongShortLong

NYC infectious disease doctor's Covid treatment recs. Dr. Daniel Griffin as seen on TWiV.
https://twiv.s3.amazonaws.com/treatm...ary+081322.pdf

TBS may find something of value, especially the various post-exposure options. Best to get them early if you qualify. Best wishes.

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Thanks. She has a call into her doc for a Paxlovid Rx

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Originally Posted by Flyoverland Captive

Hang tough, Mr and Mrs TBS. Beer and pizza on me when you can’t infect me. ;-)

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Originally Posted by skiJ

Please
Be well, TBS !

tj

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Thanks.
FOC, will ping when I next get to the Met for PM hatch - at this rate, won’t likely be this month :/.

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Originally Posted by KQ

News tonight said additional polio booster no bueno.

I can still remember getting my final booster. I'm old enough that I was given the live (weakened) virus. They don't do that anymore.

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I'm still hoping we don't need a full run of polio vaccines.. i.e. this is just a fluke and it won't spread. Alas if they have them available and tell us to get them I'm in immediately though of course..

Update - Ms TBS talked this AM to her doc who is working from home because she - wait for it - has Covid.

She just started course of Paxlovid

Anybody take this before? Her doc warned her the side effects mimic Covid conditions (fever, aches, headache) :eek:

Wishing the TBS household the best possible outcome here. Immune compromised people will never be 100% past COVID until it's 100% gone off the community spread radar.
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Originally Posted by TBS

So despite our best efforts including quadruple vaccinations Ms TBS and I both have da Covid.

It’s been light chills, itchy eyes and stuffy head for me - basic mild headcold

Ms TBS’ symptoms much worse - prolly because she takes meds that compromise her immune system. Sez she feels a lot better today though

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We had nearly the same experience. Ms CE got it from a gathering in NJ and came back testing neg but knowing she'd been exposed bc one of the friends tested pos the next day. She then tested pos 2 days after that.

We took serious precautions (she basically lived outside or in the closed guest room, and never entered the house without a KN95), but I still got it.

She has had 4 shots but takes some kind of mild immunosuppressant bc, like TONS of women in their 40s, she has an unspecified autoimmune condition. She was pretty much in bed for 5 days and is only now getting better. On day 2 she got monoclonal antibodies, but we'll never know whether that helped her at all.

I had my 5th shot 2 days before testing positive, so that didn't help me. Nevertheless I have only had a slight sore throat and cough for 2 days and very mild symptoms for 2 more.

Here's hoping that our antibodies got a good tune up, bc we're heading to Burning Man next week.

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Originally Posted by climberevan

I had my 5th shot 2 days before testing positive

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Holy shit, I didn't even realize that was possible (having had five shots by now).

It's not ..... I'm intrigued.

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Originally Posted by TBS

Update - Ms TBS talked this AM to her doc who is working from home because she - wait for it - has Covid.

She just started course of Paxlovid

Anybody take this before? Her doc warned her the side effects mimic Covid conditions (fever, aches, headache) :eek:

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Felt absolutely great a few days after completing the Paxlovid only to rebound a couple days later. The rebound was much quicker to get through w lighter symptoms.

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Originally Posted by The AD

Holy shit, I didn't even realize that was possible (having had five shots by now).

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The 5th shot is supposed to protect you when you're biking donw the middle of the highway in rural NV. Sorry Even : -- )

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Originally Posted by The AD

Holy shit, I didn't even realize that was possible (having had five shots by now).

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My first one was a J&J early on at the local tribal center and it never made it into any records. Then I got 2x Modernas (2nd one knocked me flat for a full day). Then a Pfizer booster. Then I just waltzed into Costco, showed a photo of my card before the previous booster and asked for another one last week. They gave it to me, no questions asked. I don't think the 'system' is really keeping track very carefully.

And yet another infectious disease crisis to worry about--brain eating amoeba in the midwest. (OK just two cases so far, but that's how covid started.)

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Originally Posted by old goat

And yet another infectious disease crisis to worry about--brain eating amoeba in the midwest. (OK just two cases so far, but that's how covid started.)

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Those things are gross... few cases a year in the US usually