I probably should have soundly reprimanded her, she didnt have her own kids but i think your take away was sposed to be that speaking as a teacher they line them up and stick them in grade schoolQuote:
Originally Posted by bennymac
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I probably should have soundly reprimanded her, she didnt have her own kids but i think your take away was sposed to be that speaking as a teacher they line them up and stick them in grade schoolQuote:
Originally Posted by bennymac
The CA Waldorf people (ime* neither soccermoms nor hippies, even if they crunch) have long driven antivax stuff but the torch has been taken since covid for being against every vax along partisan lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcski
*not soccermoms because they didn’t let the kids do competitive sports, not hippies because they made too much money.
2nd Gen hippies.
Dentist Hippies?
I know/knew Waldorf moms that re-registered republican when vax requirements schools were bumped up in California.
And of course we know that Facebook and YouTube algorithms exploit and amplify confirmation bias.Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
... Thom
Do we need a Measles thread? With RFK in charge, maybe we need an infectious disease forum.
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Gaines County is the epicenter of the measles outbreak with at least 45 confirmed cases. The county had the highest unvaccinated rate in the state this school year at 18 percent, according to state health data.
As of Friday, the confirmed number of measles cases in Texas reached 90, making this the worst measles outbreak in 30 years.
Measles was declared eradicated in the United States in 2000. This was achieved through a successful vaccination program that ensured high levels of immunity in the population.
^no need for a thread, just follow VanMan tallow on IG
As if Texas doesn't have enough brain-damaged people already.
Our march towards Idiocracy continues
While it is amusing to think of getting a handy at StarFucks, the movie was not supposed to be an instruction manual.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
Speaking of idiocracy: https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/26/healt...ity/index.html
Vitamin A supplements might be a good idea if you live somewhere like a third world country and you have Vitamin A deficiency. But otherwise it’s the standard paleo hoax bullshit. More is not better.
How come god was not on the job thru all this ?
She was.
Getting booster, rabies and two others in the next 7 days.
Read an article in one of the paywalled sites the other day--lots of people who have had covid WITHOUT any apparent long term symptoms have significant cognitive loss. That would explain a lot. It could explain Biden, it could explain Trump. It could explain my wife. It could explain me. Looking around me with that in mind I see a whole lot of craziness it could explain. Not that most people weren't crazy before but there is definitely a different vibe in the society now. A lot has been blamed on isolation, loss of learning for the kids, etc but maybe it's not just psychosocial, maybe it's virus in the brain, which is better than a worm in your brain but bad enough. Like the PTSD in soldiers that turns out to be TBI in many cases.It could explain the last election.
It could also explain the forum problems
It could also explain the forum problems if covid got into the servers.
If you believe a muffin fan can get covid you might be a readneck
I've personaly had so many vax i can't walk thru a metal door way without sticking to it but my medical consultant tells me I am so fuckin old i don't need the measles
FDA’s Peter Marks Steps Down, Warns of ‘Lies’ & 'Misinformation'
Writer: Param Malik
Param Malik
22 hours ago
4 min read
WASHINGTON, D.C. - A seismic shift has rocked the FDA as Peter Marks, the agency's influential director of the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER), has announced his resignation, effective April 5th, 2025.
“It has become clear that truth and transparency are not desired by the secretary [RFK Jr.], but rather he wishes subservient confirmation of his misinformation and lies,” Marks wrote in a letter to acting FDA Commissioner Sara Brenner, a copy of which was obtained by HealthcareInsights.
The abrupt departure of Marks, an individual widely regarded as the driving force behind the FDA's progressive approach to gene and cell therapies, has sent shockwaves through the biotech sector and is raising critical questions about the future of regulatory oversight in United States healthcare.
According to his letter, Marks' exit is not merely a personal decision. He used the occasion to decry the "unprecedented assault on scientific truth" that he felt was impacting public health and was a battle he waged daily against a relentless tide of misinformation from the new DHSS leadership.
Marks, who has led CBER since 2016, has been instrumental in shaping the regulatory landscape for groundbreaking therapies, balancing scientific innovation with patient safety. For over eight years, Marks stood as a bulwark against the rising tide of skepticism, steering CBER through unprecedented medical advancement and public health crises.
Under his leadership, the FDA greenlit landmark gene therapies, marking tangible progress in treating previously intractable diseases. This includes approvals like Yescarta and Luxturna, pioneering treatments for certain cancers and inherited blindness. Marks also spearheaded CBER's efforts to streamline the development of COVID-19 vaccines and treatments, playing a crucial role in Operation Warp Speed.
His departure will leave both of the FDA’s principal drug review offices without a permanent leader, following the resignation of Patrizia Cavazzoni, former Director of the Center for Drug Evaluation & Research (CDER), in January.
The implications of Marks' departure are far-reaching, as the FDA grapples with the increasing strain of federal staffing and budget cuts. These constraints have already stretched agency resources, and the loss of a key leader like Marks further exacerbates the challenge of maintaining regulatory efficiency and expertise.
And the departure of such a prominent figure, a figure who stood at the very nexus of scientific rigor and public trust, raises chilling questions about the effect of our current political climate on the very institutions designed to protect us. It’s a reminder that the institutions designed to safeguard public health are increasingly vulnerable to the corrosive influence of political opportunism. The loss of his expertise, a voice of reason in a cacophony of doubt, leaves a void that threatens to undermine the FDA's ability to fulfill its core mission: to protect and promote public health.
The search for Marks' successor becomes a litmus test for the nation's commitment to scientific integrity. In a moment where the very foundations of trust are under siege, the FDA must not only fill a vacancy but also reaffirm its commitment to evidence-based decision-making.
The agency's ability to maintain public trust in vaccine safety and efficacy is now front and center. With Mark's departure, a critical voice has been silenced. As the FDA searches for a successor, American health and science stand at a precipice.
So an uncle of mine, MAGAtard, of course never got a covid vax because of the conspiracy theories. Ends up being gets Deep Vein Thrombosis in leg and Pulmonary Embolism. Dies at the local clinic, brought back via CPR, and saved via emergency surgery. But he still has a “bunch” of clots in his lungs.Guy was healthy, good weight, and active. Don’t know for certain Covid related but his kids are keeping up a wall of low information. “Just old”
Doesn't sound particularly covid.
og: The antivaxxers are claiming all DVT/PE deaths are caused by "the clot shot."
In other news, RFK and his hand picked appointees bypass ACIP, the professional advisory group that is responsible for CDC vaccine recommendations, and simply declares no COVID vaccines for pregnant women and kids. ACIP is the authority that is respected. They were to meet in June so RFK just unilaterally decided, usurped, and blew his load.
This is a bad decision and a bad precedent.
American college of obstetricians and gynecologists responds
Infectious Disease Association of AmericaQuote:
ACOG Statement on HHS Recommendations Regarding the COVID Vaccine During Pregnancy
The following is a statement from Steven J. Fleischman, MD, FACOG, president of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG):
“ACOG is concerned about and extremely disappointed by the announcement that HHS will no longer recommend COVID-19 vaccination during pregnancy. As ob-gyns who treat patients every day, we have seen firsthand how dangerous COVID-19 infection can be during pregnancy and for newborns who depend on maternal antibodies from the vaccine for protection. We also understand that despite the change in recommendations from HHS, the science has not changed. It is very clear that COVID-19 infection during pregnancy can be catastrophic and lead to major disability, and it can cause devastating consequences for families. The COVID-19 vaccine is safe during pregnancy, and vaccination can protect our patients and their infants after birth.
“In fact, growing evidence shows just how much vaccination during pregnancy protects the infant after birth, with the vast majority of hospitalized infants less than six months of age—those who are not yet eligible for vaccination—born to unvaccinated mothers.
“Following this announcement, we are worried about our patients in the future, who may be less likely to choose vaccination during pregnancy despite the clear and definitive evidence demonstrating its benefit. We are concerned about access implications and what this recommendation will mean for insurance coverage of the COVID-19 vaccine for those who do choose to get vaccinated during pregnancy. And as ob-gyns, we are very concerned about the potential deterioration of vaccine confidence in the future.”
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Originally Posted by Tina Tan, MD, FIDSA, FPIDS, FAAP — President, IDSA [/quote
How so? I had understood there was a significant increase in odds of DVT and PE after CovidQuote:
Originally Posted by old goat
The general vax shit out of HHS over the past few weeks sucks. Related to COVID, my family had (apparent) success with novavax for the past 2 years w/ no known infections, which included 2 kids in high school, a kid living in college dorms w/several known outbreaks in student housing, and wife’s persistent exposures via her therapy services at her work.
Re:clots and COVID, Mayo Clinic includes “Stroke or blood clots” as a disease diagnosis due to long COVID. WHO lists “microscopic blood clots” as a “post COVID condition.” Lots of other reasons for blood clots.
My father’s clotting source was never determined even after over a month of living in a hospital in recovery from a surgery while his team was trying to “figure it out.” Long covid was never ruled out.
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The Nuke Option, People die of provoked and unprovoked saddle emboli all the time. Attribution to Covid vax/not vax is illogical.</p>
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Annual incidence of PE in general population is 1 per 1,000. Of those, 5-10% die. How do we account for all the pulmonary embolism's prior to COVID? </p>
What scientific studies are you relying on. All those that I could find indicate a higher risk of VTE etc for unvaccinated who get covid than those vaccinates.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9585885
https://ashpublications.org/bloodadv...ce=chatgpt.com
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.063296?utm
Did your uncle have Covid prior to DVT/PE?
I’m relying on 30 years of healthcare experience in ER/ICU.
I am not sure whether he had Covid, but given his political antivax stance there is a high likelihood.
How does your ER experience override the scientific data? What is your scientific reasoning?
All those studies you cited are primarily DVT rates in hospitalized patients which have an extraordinarily higher incidence. The last study is about DVT risk from a vax.
Details surrounding DVT are important. Hospitalized or not. Covid or not. Smoking history. Recent surgery, travel, immobilization, etc.
You can’t automatically assume a Magatard with a DVT is due to Covid, especially in the ambulatory/non hospitalized patient.
Hematologist can differentiate provoked vs. unprovoked.
Sounds like you’re assuming he had Covid but have no real certainty at all. This sounds like unprovoked DVT and I bet he’s going to be evaluated by hematologist to assess for underlying clotting disorder.
This is all based on limited details.
Yes it’s conjecture on my part since I do not know the medical details.But that you have higher risk of such things is borne out by this study, right?https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1...chatgpt.com#F1
Well sure, but in the real world, as someone who diagnoses DVT/PE fairly frequently, it’s exceedingly uncommon in todays demographic to see DVT/PE follow COVID in the outpatient setting, vax or not.
I would be willing to wager your uncle had unprovoked PE not associated with covid and he’s lucky to have survived.
It’s kinda pathologic to see someone almost die in your family from a PE and post on the internet that their misfortune was a result of their political affiliation.
There your real feelings are. He’s my family Dr Ahole. I love the guy and your reversion to that particular part is telling.
My feelings based on DVT risk are based on observation/facts/real world experience. Yours are based on assumptions.
That aside, you didnt even read the stuff I posted, as is clear in your erroneous response about the studies.Feelings, Dr Maga has strong feelings.
Perhaps I misinterpreted your initial post but calling a loved one a Magatard in the same sentence describing his near death is anything but “loving”.
You pulled that assumption literally out of thin air (Covid caused his DVT).
Hope your uncle recovers fully.
Well, if he is intellectually backasswarded by fake news MAGA, he is in my view MAGAtarded. Independent guy here. He simply has had his actual intellect retarded. Hence.
But lets be honest. You are not the sort of Dr quailified for such. More of a plumber from how it's been desribed to me by medical peeps. "There is a leak!" "He's dying". You always hand them off, right.
More concerning is your haste and error in proclaimed medical expertise. Expert Halo much?
Ok enjoy.