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I believe there is no quarantine if you have proof of vaccination and a negative test.
However you still need to submit your quarantine plan in the ArriveCAN app. Has your wife submitted info to the app yet? Apparently that's where ml242's folks ran afoul, so make sure they dot their i's and cross their t's!Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/tr...Hlw#vaccinated
Tomorrow I am going to get my Vaccination Card photocopied and plastic laminated.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
Canada's travel website is a case study in providing as little actual information as possible, but in the most long winded, confusing way imaginable.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
That's Canadian government SOP. A long tradition handed down from the Brits.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
The other issue is that the ArriveCAN app won't let you proceed unless you're within 72 hours of your trip, so I can't even get in to see what questions I'll be asked and what information I'll need to provide. For example, if my quarantine plan is a hotel do I just need to provide what hotel I'd stay at or do I actually need proof that I have a hotel booking? I'm certainly not real excited to book a 14 night hotel stay on the more or less zero chance that I'll actually use it.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
I was trying to go to sturgis. Turns out im not allowed. Pisser
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Can't you just lie about your trip dates and then once you get the info, cancel the trip?Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
my poor parents are sticking it out in quarantine. they don't want to drive to plattsburgh just to wait another day or three to get yet another PCR test to turn around and then be told they have to go back to quarantine or that they did something wrong.
I am really not sure what is up with the Arrive Canada app, but the border people really suck and no one will take any responsibility for anything. Finding the rules that have changed on 7/5 is pretty hard and the links seem to go to the new policy from 8/9, so it's not a completely easy task. Explaining that stuff to a border person that is pissed off and doesn't have to suffer the consequences though.... impossible.
The people on the phone say that the border people have the final say, but they didn't follow the rules. I'm scratching my head anyway. i saved the guidelines here if this helps anyone: https://archive.is/1lh4W
We are all American btw...
Yeah, it's a mess. We're planning on going camping labor day weekend, but I'm not sure if my camper is a viable quarantine plan. We'll also only be about 45 minutes from the border, so really if I need to quarantine, I'd rather just drive home. But it's not clear if that's allowed either.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
And we'll be bringing our kids (who are too young to be vaccinated). The official website doesn't have any information about if they're allowed or what needs to be done with them. Non-official sites say they need to be tested before arrival and on day 1, but I can't find official confirmation of that.
That could certainly be done, but not sure I'd be willing to take that chance. I could also just cancel once I get through the border, but I'd likely have to pay for one night since it would be cancelling within 24 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanoT
Exception — leaving CanadaQuote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
8 A person who must quarantine themselves under section 3 or remain in quarantine under section 4 may leave Canada before the expiry of the 14-day quarantine period if they quarantine themselves until they depart from Canada.
Excellent. That's at least good news.Quote:
Originally Posted by ml242
I wonder how the current admittance to canada compares to the admittabce for the tokyo olympics?
Canada had zero covid cases in tokyo. Would US applicants to tokyo be the same/similar demographic as applicants to canada?
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Just had a buddy clear customs in 30 minutes. Had to land in Vancouver to clear customs rather than Victoria. Other than that it was smooth sailing.
So there is a new requirement, ArriveCAN. I filled out every box, uploaded my vaccination records, then got denied!! My mother is in late stage Dementia and may remember who I am for a few more weeks, maybe a couple months with God's grace and these dipshits won't allow me in to see her. I have just been tested, vaccinated and visiting for compassionate reasons but not good enough to allow me in. Been in the north country at least 50 times over my life and every living relative is there. To those making it unreasonably difficult, a big hearty FU.
here here!
and i am so sorry to read this.
I too am sorry to hear that. I can empathize. Id really like to visit family. I wouldve thought compassionate grounds would qualify you or should.
For everyone elso i find it difficult to believe the border open didnt get pushed back farther. Cases are surging on both sides of the border. Especially in the US. Im thinking we may have restrictions within our border reinstated to some degree. The science metric that signalled the border opening is now worse than the previous date that the decision was made to keep the border closed. Why would we risk more now? This is not typical flu surge season. Whats going to happen in the fall? If canadians are restricted from crossing into the US doesnt that mean your govt thinks theres a problem letting visitors in? Visitors from a country of a less infected , higher vaxxed population %. None of you visitors find that hypocritical? I agree we shouldnt be visiting. Superspreading is bad no matter which direction , although i think we'll be more at risk if we have citizens visiting the US and returning. What about science? Isnt this supposed to be a science based decision?
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In other news fisherman suddenly started calling me this AM to book shuttles
If ur vaxxed what are u worried about? If u r questioning if your vax works why did u get vaxed in the 1st place. Open zee border! America wants in on their 52 state!
I agree. We know that if you are vaxed the chances of getting Covid are reduced and if you do get the virus the chances of being hospitalized are greatly reduced. Sounds manageable to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by teamdirt
I am not worried about the unvaxed as long as not too many of them end up in hospital so we don't stress the medical system, then it sounds manageable to me.
And the ones that do end up in hospital or die, hopefully that helps convince a few more anti-vaxers to reconsider the risks.
What the hell? Did you get a reason why it was denied?Quote:
Originally Posted by L82thegate
What about long covid? What about unvaxxed children? I dont want any sickness whether im hospitalized or not. The masks are going back on in a number of spots. How do we know where this latest variant is going? Isnt this increasing the spread leading into the school year? It was supposed to be vaccinated healthy people participating in the tokyo olympics. 423 spreaders later where is japan now? Arent we setting up our kids and young families for a bit of the same? Isnt this decision increasing the production of new variants?
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Yeah, that's what I was going to ask too. Are they just being dicks because they can?Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
You in the states or Canada?Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
Canada, but it could apply from either side of the border. Spreading is spreading. Our covid cases are increasing on both sides of the border. We've shown no means of stalling this latest increase. 110k new cases/day in the US. 1 in 5 are children. Unvaxxed children. A significant number of children are being hospitalised. Pretty ez to predict what will follow that increase. Wouldnt common sense dictate that we show some success in dealing with this variant and the increases before we open everything? Our response to the current covid climate would serm to be the opposite direction that what we should be doing. We're taking a step back from containment rather than containing the outbreak and dictating, scientifically, how we can procedeQuote:
Originally Posted by josef
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I’ve got a trip to B.C. planned for September but all of this confusion and some reports of super long wait times has me thinking twice. I understand that a lot of Canadians are on edge - somewhat understandable IMO
I dont want to label anyone here. I just think its worth considering protecting ourselves and others with where things are. The situation is just so fluid. It was only a week or 3 ago i breathed a sigh of relief and wondered if i should keep my masks for future memorabilia. I quickly became comfortable without it and now im reluctantly putting it on even though that actusl act is no real discomfort. Its more the feeling of regret that we're not over this shit so i get that people just want to go back to doing what we did previously, like traveling and traceling across our border. It sux but we have go weigh out the negatives and the positives and whats most important. Ask me 5 or 6 days ago and i wouldnt have batted an eye
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Well, dipshit, I'm worried about my 2 kids under 12 who cannot yet get the vaccine. THESE are the real "unvaccinated" that everyone seems to want to shit on. Yeah we all want to see Dave the Toilet Scientist on Facebook get COVID, but really what's gonna happen is little kids will be the ones getting it and spreading it around among themselves. And while the stats show they likely won't die or have any immediate symptoms, I'd still prefer them not to be exposed to the Mystery Virus until we've had the chance to give them the antidote.Quote:
Originally Posted by teamdirt
yup, I'd prefer my 3 year old doesn't get it, or my sister in laws infant, or the class full of kindergarten kids my wife will be teaching this fall. Nope, can't just get a simple vaccine and wear a mask in public, gotta be a freeeeedumb dickhead.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulster2626
Ok-dipshit-lets feed them an experimental drug that we don’t know the long term effects. There is a reason they have not approved it for kids....Quote:
Originally Posted by paulster2626
Look at the stats- very few kids have gotten covid and even less have had severe symptoms.
Stop with the fear monging....people no longer can critically think for themselves. It all starts with turning off the evening news....
Potential Long covid vs Potential Myocarditis from the vax. Neither is a great scenario.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
We're not allowed to get sick any more.....those are the new rules.
A year ago this would be an irrefutable statement. Now I'm not so sure. Young people seem to be affected much more be the delta variant (and, presumably, kids under 12 not being able to get vaccinated yet). See, for example: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...eeing-n1276238Quote:
Originally Posted by teamdirt
no you see one time, they said it didn't affect kids, therefore it will never affect kids #freedumbscience
Your first hudge mistake is calling a tested vaccine an "experimental drug". It will soon be FDA approved. What will your deflection be then? How far will you move the goal posts once it's approved?Quote:
Originally Posted by teamdirt
He's right though. None of our three vaccines have FDA approval, and only a Emergency Use Authorization.Quote:
Originally Posted by k2skier112
The "experiment" part you mention is happening now...
While true, how many vaccines have been administered so far? I'm guess over a billion at this point. Long term issues? Well, test groups started getting shots more than a year ago. I suppose it' still possible there could be some thus far unseen problems, but they seem extraordinary safe so far overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asspen
edit: per this story nearly 4.5 billion doses given so far. https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/c...-distribution/
That's a lot of experimental data.
In regards to kids getting covid I personally think it’s likely that they were getting it previously and just not getting tested or not showing real symptoms. I know of a lot of kits all under the age of 5 who have had it now and their symptoms were a runny nose. My two kids have been tested in the double digits because pretty much every symptom is the same as a common cold for a kid.
I think they are getting it and not being effected by it the same as older people so they aren’t being tested. The numbers we all see are positive tests not actual cases. It’s a very safe assumption that the number of untested positives is much higher in a population that doesn’t show the effects of the disease as severely.
They will be soon. What's your excuse then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Asspen