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tell me you don't understand science, without telling me you don't understand science. definitely should never want to evaluate situations against new evidence and changing realities and modify responses and behaviours, dig your heals in and close your brain!
And that really goes for pretty much everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garfield3d
Politician says "X"
[circumstances change]
Politician now says "Y"
He's a flip flopper!
The politicians that never change their views despite the emergence of overwhelming evidence that their long standing views are incorrect are the worst possible people to be leading the government.
they taught me this science thing and it seemed logical so i just accepted it
then I get sent to church where I'm wearing scratchy clothing i don't like and they tell me the guy in bedsheets feeds 5000 people with 5 loaves of bread and a basket of fish
I remember thinking ... do i look like a moran ?
I dunno, do you look like this guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Tuf0oorvA
His video titles (and his name) made me think he was a quack but the videos are actually very informative and science based.
^^^ check out the m-series spam bot with the pun.
...and just like that, he gone
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Originally Posted by XXX-er
It would be cool if you did look like Mount Moran
So many suckers on this site - you guys are far to easy at getting Covid boners.
Go do something meaningful with your time, before you find out there is another variant on top of the variant....lol
Hopefully ski season is bountiful and plentiful for all of us! Cheers
Oh we have Republicans they just don't call themselves that.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
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well sure but according to polls 40% of 75million republicans refuse to vax for political reasonsQuote:
Originally Posted by Shorty_J
which works out to about 30 million mouth breathing conservatives who would rather die than get a vax ?
canada has the highest rate of vax in the world and the pop of canada is < 35million
Dood stole your quote. You might be able to sue for sum o that go fund me cheddar budQuote:
Originally Posted by teamdirt
"Five days before his death, Apley posted a meme gaining notoriety in right-wing groups that read: “In 6 months, we’ve gone from the vax ending the pandemic—to you can still get covid even if vaxxed—to you can pass covid onto others even if vaxxed—to you can still die of covid even if vaxxed—to the unvaxxed are killing the vaxxed.”
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/....php?p=6371397
At least he died doing what he loved.<br />
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<b>Texas politician dies of COVID 5 days after posting anti-vaccine meme</b><br />
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A Texas GOP official who consistently mocked COVID-1......
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Hey now the media owns that misinformation. NYT , WaPO, CTV all went with the story as just as likely for the vaxxed to get it and pass it a long. You had to be following the unfolding story with too much time on your hands to get the corrected info in a timely fashion. They made it a super game changer when it was a moderate game changer. CDC also has some blame here. When I read the art I thought holy shit though I went to the thought that those counting on herd to not be vaxxed people are going to have to rethink.
NYT Daily podcast explained it quite well.Quote:
Originally Posted by DougW
Can vaxxed transmit COVID? Yes.
Is it extremely rare? Yes.
Are they doing more research on this? Yes.
Does vaccine still protect against hospitalization? Yes.
Does vaccine still protect against aquiring COVID in the first place, and thus transmission? Yes.
Should people still get vaccinated? Yes.
Did their print articles suggest otherwise that what I heard on my morning walk the other day?
They had to tweet that it was rare for the vaxxed to get infected. But for some the damage was done and will take a while to be undone.
your ? yes it was over on the fear vac thread KQ posted that the Whitehouse was pissed at news coverage (can't find)
here is CTV coverage when it came out
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...arns-1.5529230
"The bottom line was that, in contrast to the other variants, vaccinated people, even if they didn't get sick, got infected and shed virus at similar levels as unvaccinated people who got infected,"
It doesn't mention that your 8x less likely to get covid if vaxxed or what ever the number is now. NYT just said "rare" in tweet correction. So my read CDC wanted to scare and over did it .
I believe it was tweets by both nyt and wapo that were upsetting since they were given without contextQuote:
Originally Posted by paulster2626
the border sounds like a shit show right now even if you have all of your documents as they gear up for the strike tomorrow.
took my folks over an hour to get through even after i gave additional supporting documents and they refused to see my parents proof of vax preferring to tell them to quarantine for two weeks despite the fact that they even showed up with a negative test from two days ago AND took a test there AND have a take home test... completely contrary to everything on the website.
vacation off to a great start!
I'm guessing it's because the border guards don't have the right of a traditional strike due to them being deemed essential, so instead they're getting a headstart on working to rule - their rule that is: make it difficult as possible.
Well, fuck. This isn't what I wanted to hear. Do they have NEXUS cards?Quote:
Originally Posted by ml242
This is why twitter sucks. Tough to give context with so few characters, and so easy to spread garbage like a virus.Quote:
Originally Posted by powdork
yes and the offices were full of people they were tormenting. tears, dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
why are the instructions given to them different than what’s on the site? how can you follow rules that conflict? this shit is so stressful.
While varies from time to time and place to place, I have found the border/customs people are well practiced in making it as difficult as possible without needing "job action" as an excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
being an ass-hat is pretty much a pre-reqQuote:
Originally Posted by DanoT
Application question:
Were you bullied as a child and if so for how many years?
With so little traffic over last 18 months are they letting out all their anti social feeling?
Seems that CDC is not messaging very well still , from today over in Padded vaccinateQuote:
Originally Posted by paulster2626
Ok your pushing masking but it allows one to assume that vaxxed people are getting at same rate as unvaxxed.Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
The link that you posted has actually been updated to clarify that vaccinated infected people (and not uninfected people) are as infectious as unvaccinated infected people. Notably, this means that on a population level, vaccination does reduce overall transmissability as an uninfected person is still a harder target to infect.Quote:
Originally Posted by DougW
Behold the following two tidbits:
andQuote:
CDC provided data last week that showed how fully vaccinated people who get a breakthrough infection can carry essentially that same amount of virus as an unvaccinated person, allowing them to transmit the virus just like an unvaccinated person can.
That is why the CDC is recommending even vaccinated people wear masks indoors again, Walensky said.
Quote:
Clarification: This post has been updated to specify that Walensky was referencing fully vaccinated people who get a breakthrough infection when saying that vaccines no longer prevent transmission of Covid-19.
Link to article - https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/cor...d02c536828ea1e
Trying to convince hesitant unvaxxed people to get vaccinated and also telling them that after they get vaxxed, they still need to wear a mask. How is that going to motivate anyone to change their thinking or behaviour enough to get the vax?
Make it mandatory for driving licenses, hunting licenses, marriage licenses, schools, colleges, bus passes, theatre/music tickets, and purchasing beer, ammo, and cigarettes. And voting. And prison/jail/church. And getting tax refunds, and winning the lotto/lottery. And applying for credit cards and bank accounts. And flying, taking buses, trains, or skiing. And health insurance, and being seen at a hospital or clinic. Or welfare, or food stamps.
Epic stupidity requires epic solutions.
Yes and then expand on that to fill any gaps. Enough is enough
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Listen to yourselves- The media and fear has stole your ability of common sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
Basic human rights law on an international scale gives everyone the right to choose what they do to their body’s.
In perspective It’s like you guys are telling a woman she has no decision in having an abortion....
The pieces of the puzzle will fall into place and we will all see the bigger picture some time distant in the future hopefully the guinea pigs and sheeple are still around to see it.
gosh i can’t think of the last time an abortion affected me.
is it that you yourself was aborted?
YAFIQuote:
Originally Posted by teamdirt
lol you r f'd. go get a PCR test. im sure it will be positiveQuote:
Originally Posted by paulster2626
You'd think the massive reduction in the chance of getting seriously ill or infecting others and making them seriously ill would be motivation, but apparently it's not for some people.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanoT
Its called body autonomy for the uneducated. You should look it up you might learn something about your rights and how it is drafted in the constitution or charter of rights depending on which side of the border your on.Quote:
Originally Posted by ml242
I think its the fact that if you take the vax then you have a 100% of getting the .001% of serious side effects and 70% chance of the mild side effects that almost everyone gets. Whereas if you don't get the vax then you can convince yourself you won't get it. Even though you may or may not, really be trying not to get it. You're not in your mind trying to get so you probably won't get it.
If you don't get the vac its up to you but be prepared to have some freedoms of movement taken away. Eventually everyone will be immune. By vax, or infection, or death. Some parts of me say to hell with overloading health system. Get it done and maybe the delta will do that.
I can't see how Vax hesitancy will not affect every aspect of life, it will be required
otherwise the antivaxxer will be choosing to miss out on work, travel, opportunities whatever you can think of
beside that part where you are way more likely to die from covid
back on track, this is basically what happened to my folks. even though they had all the info filled out ahead of time the border guys said there was a problem with paperwork from arrive canada and weren’t interested in proof of vax, the negative test, anything. have a nice quarantine, eh
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...rder-1.6131242
If the vaxxed can still get covid and the vaxed are still transmissible, but the vaxed have less symtoms, including more asymptomatic cases with less restrictions for the vaxed than are we not setting up society for a super spread event?
Seems to me more people will be infected and spreading without knowing it. This would probably take us back to the start of the pandemic....
Cautionary tale:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/updat...s-ewell-smith/
That is the guy who wrote the extremely popular book Body for Life. Former competitive bodybuilder, supplements peddler, etc, etc. Ok, he was in his 50's, not 20's, but a super-fit health nut - which is probably the only reason he survived.
My wife is friends with his brother's ex, and received a more detailed, grueling account, which sounded hideous (and extremely touch-and-go), and included yet another "I regret not getting the vaccine," statement, from the hospital bed. Ironically, dude had been training hard for some peak or other at the time he got infected, saying, "I hope to be at my peak of fitness by the end of July...god willing."