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You are a piece of shit and typical of how this shit storm has turned people against each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by skizix
Carma will find you I'm sure.
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The fact that you don't know how to spell karma says all we need to know, pano douche
It is a big day in Quebec with the curfew lifted.
Not only will Quebecers now be allowed out after 9:30 p.m. for the first time since Jan. 9, they will also be able to eat and drink on restaurant terrasses — the province's fabled patios for dining — and welcome friends and family in their backyards.
1) Things are opening up, but not everything (yet)
Starting today:
The curfew is lifted across the province.
Eating on patios and decks outside of restaurants is allowed.
Outdoor gatherings of up to eight people on private property will be permitted.
Travel between regions of Quebec will be permitted.
Up to 2,500 people in a large theatre or arena will be allowed with assigned seating and measures in place. (Including at the Bell Centre for Game 6 of the Habs-Leafs series on Saturday.)
Gatherings on private balconies are also allowed, but since physical distancing is required, squeezing in eight people won't be possible in a lot of cases.
Indoor private gatherings are still prohibited.
Run through the fields Quebec mags
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Theyll fuck it up. Poutine parties will be the next super spreader events
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As long as I can go on my Grand Canyon raft trip without a quarantine on the way home this fall I’m cool.
Get your god damn shot so we can go back to normal please.
Nice, but is the tam tam party back on?
Poutine parties? Open the fucking border now.
Haaa hope thats not a full long weekend event
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Plus the pent up voulez vous coucher avec moi ce soir?!Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
no, it's every weekend!Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
In la belle province theyre under the impression you cant catch it with anustartQuote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
"How did he die? The rona?" "No, migraine!"Quote:
Originally Posted by ml242
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the loophole
Was nice to get good and drunk&hi in the park last night without having to keep checking the time like a little bitch. And then to go to another park n get stoneder. It felt strange though. Weird how accommodated and normalized we all got to having to go home before 9:30. Most of us did anyway.
Another piece of shit human being Coming out of the woodwork thanks to our governments empowering them to be pieces of shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cokey McBlowjob
Seriously think about it, our governments are putting all the effort into vaccination but will never get 100% buy in from the public. Vaccines are a good thing but they have to be tested properly, especially these ones. To start reprogramming our systems is risky business.
Ontario government throwing ice cream party for kids to get vaccinated without parents consent!?? This is fucking wrong.
There are cheap proven options for treatment that they are not accepting and this is a huge mistake. Many doctors questioning this and they are being silenced. They would rather have people on ventilators dieing than Give these drugs to people. Why? These drugs have been used for many years, no side effects just not a money maker for The pharma companies....
Man can not beat nature, every time we try we get bit, this is going to bite us big time.
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Oh for fuck sakes. You anti-vaxxers need to take a walk through an old graveyard and take note of all the little headstones.
Like face masks? Oh yeah, you think those are stupid too.Quote:
Originally Posted by pano-dude
Time to just admit that you're nothing more than a freeloader who wants everyone else to make the sacrifices to get the virus under control.
1 in 6 Canadians don't want to get a Covid vaccine..... or any vaccine for that matter. That's counted among the number of people eligible for a vaccine.
Among the OECD countries that's a fairly high number.
As other countries, the fed, the province and private actors start offering incentives and implementing disincentives to not be vaccinated I feel that those on the fence about being vaccinated will swing to being vaccinated.
It's nice to see a systemic education failure in another first world country besides the United States.
That seems like a very high %. You need a apples to apples comparison as to the poll question. The number I have seen is 8% will not take it. https://abacusdata.ca/vaccine-hesitancy-canada/ This leaves 28% who currently say they would “prefer to wait a bit to see how the vaccine works out as others take it”, or “would prefer not to take one, but could be persuaded to”. Depends how you slice that 28% as hesitant or really hesitant.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
In Golden the number is now at 77% for getting a shot, but who knows the denominator might be low or are counting shots of people who don't show up in denominator.
Doug. I suspect you're correct and the survey (Ipsos Reid) needs more granularity in the data. The 28% hesitant was possibly (mis?)counted among the 84% who are willing to get vaccinated with one of the Covid vaccines. It does suggest room to use incentives to attain vaccination but that's my rose coloured glasses view
The problem with all of these surveys is that the question/answer that rises to the top is the obvious cop-out for anyone that doesn't want to sound like an idiot (or blanket anti-vaxxer).
"It's irrefutable that 'long term side effects are unknown' so that's what I'm going with Regis, final answer"
Many of those people are in the never column, but won't admit it out loud.
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Originally Posted by Ted Striker
That could be but Alberta used to be the worst and now that number has come way down but still high
Fewer Albertans intend to turn down vaccination against COVID-19 compared to stated intentions tabulated prior to the arrival of vaccines in the province.
According to updated polling from the Angus Reid Institute, 17 per cent of Albertans are either unsure or else do not intend to get their shot.
In January that number was at 45 per cent and led the country."
So there is movement but every % point now is harder. I'm sure that there is a hard core group for which this is part of their being now and can't change their minds. It would mean that they have been an idiot their whole lives and that's hard to admit.
How about you can't renew your passport so can't even go the the US? Thats more of stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
Are you trying to say that money and liberty will trump principles? That is crazy talk. I'm shocked, shocked that antis will trade their principles for money. Might want to add hookers and blow to tip those poor reluctant souls.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
Ted and Doug. In terms of incentives/disincentives I suspect there will be some sort of vaccine proof. I suspect it won't be electronic ID. Attached to the proof will be a designed set of incentives. One of them certainly will be many forms of international travel as there are already laws and treaties in place.
Another may be US/Can border crossing processes. Ie relaxed with proof of vaccine. More restricted without.
Another almost certainly will be medium/large gatherings and entry to certain businesses. Private entities have authority to regulatory their own rules. They will almost certainly implement risk mitigation measures which will involve proof of vaccine.
There's already a substantial number of North American and European entities working on that. The anti vaxxers can bleat all they want about freedoms but the existing laws/regs and, more importantly, political pressures are strongly on the side of back to normal for those with proof of vaccine. Which conversely means pandemic-era restrictions on those without
How that question is asked could mean anything, I Don't wana is not the same as I refuse entirely, the question as presented is like asking a kid if they wana do homework
I don't particularly want a vax either but obviously its the way forward and the unvaxed will be presented with problems from travel restrictions to job issues for years to come
maybe even death
Doesnt help when we have dick wads like joe rogan filling these kids minds with misinformation on vaccines and treatments
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He’s obsessed with vitamin d.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
[Insert more dick jokes]
I mentioned (somewhere here) that I'd like to see it integrated with some for of legal document that most of us already possess (passport, nexus, enhanced DL, etc). I know there will be bleating from the freedumb crowd, but international borders are freedom-free zones.
exactly ^^ maybe something scan-able, actualy passports are scan-able
covid gets around using very nice people with money to travel
I knew there must be a reason I didn't tune into his podcasts.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
... Thom
Ya its like right wing talking points. Kids that listen to him recite his talking points like its science. They have a Rogan quote/answer for every scenerio. Theyre continually proven wrong but they just deflect to the next talking point. Podcasts are another information source that may need some legal boundariesQuote:
Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un
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This is a global learning experience. A disease that has a high infection rate and a high enough degree of lethality or at least debilitating effects for a large enough percentage of the population that existing health systems can be overwhelmed if mitigating procedures aren’t put int effect.
At the individual level, under certain age threshold and/or co-morbidity influences, risk of bad outcomes is low. But there is enough, at the moment, randomness to an individuals symptoms that it makes acting according to the numbers a potentially negative event risk.
So if you look at the risk from an individual perspective, within certain age/health groups, it is remarkably low. Have at it. But if you look at the issues as pertains to the population level dynamics, the issues are wholeheartedly different.
As a citizen, I am worried about one set of data (as a libertarian), as a population health expert, I have a completely different set of issues to deal with.
But, the libertarian can kill someone on a different risk bracket through contagion. That is where the perspectives meet.
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Well said. Libertarian =/= anarchist asshole. My rights end where your nose (and sinus and lungs....) begins.Quote:
Originally Posted by dufferdan
holy shit, pano, the didn't not test the vaccines, they modified the process to review data in parallel instead of waiting until the end and then starting the review process while throwing a lot of money into that ability to do it more streamlined and efficiently. These vaccines are the result of iterative advancements of medical science over centuries, you're ignorant opinion is not equal to educated expertise and experience.
My "ignorant" opinion is based on many doctors and medical people saying this needs more research. They must be educated idiots too....Quote:
Originally Posted by t.odd
As far as forcing me to get it or carry a document I could give a fuck about going to a concert, hockey game, or international travel if that's the case.
I have all the trails and terrain I could ride in a lifetime and all the pow to sled and snowboard I need.
If the vaccine is so great then why are you who get it still so worried? You're protected right....
Nobody is dieing from just covid, all have one or more existing health conditions.
No huge outbreaks in the states that are wide open. Same numbers as those that are restricted.
Enjoy your day, I'm going riding.
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Thanks for your perspective pano-dude. As a southern neighbor who wants to visit Canada I hope it helps to recognize that the other contagion is already on both sides of the border, too.
Hell, if they attach my vaccine record to all the other personal info that passport chip already pulls up I think Canada can keep both viruses out.
oh, well fuck those people then.Quote:
Originally Posted by pano-dude
If it is the case that the unvaxxed don't adversely affect the vaccinated and all they do is run the risk of increased mortality risk then I have no problem with that.
However, I suspect that isn't the case