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How do you prove you were vaxed, its kind of controversial but it was inevitable, IMO anti vaxers made their own choice
i re-read that piece on the border openning at point roberts and it would only be AT point roberts cuz its a land locked chunk of the USA
I disagree. There's nothing in the article suggesting that the opening would only be Point Roberts.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
To me this statement implies the entire border, but it certainly isn't explicit:
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a highly placed source in the Blaine port of entry told local immigration attorney Len Saunders on May 25 that the U.S. intends to unilaterally open the land border without restrictions between the U.S. and Canada on June 22.
"Can't currently be verified" by the border guy in the booth. So far, there's no American government agency that's behind the idea of a vaccine passport.Quote:
Originally Posted by smmokan
I like the idea of putting it on driver's licenses (like organ donor). One less thing to carry. But obviously politics will prevent it.
It doesn't seem like it would be too difficult for Canada to create some kind of online portal where vaccination info could be entered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
Why does the vaccine card need to be verified? Why can't people just bring their stupid CDC paper card that can easily be forged? That's what I did at the baseball game the other night to sit in the vaccine section. Do you really think that many people are going to refuse to get vaccinated, and then forge a card just so they can go to Canada? What's the risk that the very small percentage of people who would do this would actually bring COVID into Canada in with them? They would be committing both a US and Canadian felony. If caught, they would be permanently banned from entering Canada. The possibility of jail time in both the US and Canada is a huge deterrent on scamming your way into Canada. Governments need to think simply for problems like this and not add more government bureaucracy.
Yeah grinch, like Shorty said - it's definately not all 'Bertans. As always a very vocal minority of ignorant dipshits will taint an entire province (or country, looking at you US). Further, I read somewhere that Kenny's numerous fuck ups have really upped the popularity of the NDP again in oilberta... so hey, ya never know.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
Back on topic though, "a unilateral opening" at this point by the US for its citizens coming to this country would not be popular here (Terrace and Canada).
Works for me. I just think Canada would want some record of this and they probably don't want the border guards to spend the time copying info from the cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
Sure some people will forge a card. Most won't.
Allow the vaccinated across the border!
I wasn't making the economic argument, and that's a valid point, but most of the cross border shopping revenue goes straight to Costco. Add Trader Joe's, Sierra Trading Post/Ross, Silver Reef Casino and Discount Tire, and the local small business are fighting for the last sliver of that pie.Quote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
Every business in this town has a help wanted ad/sign, so it hasn't impacted retail labor.
So the county is missing out on its 1.4% sales tax, and the city is missing out on its 2.2%, which is definitely something.
And the businesses at the border that cater to Canadians receiving online purchases are obviously in trouble.
All of that said, the sentiment here is that people miss being able to go to Vancouver and Whistler, but don't miss the traffic and long lines at the gas pumps.
As for the B.1.617 variant, I heard that in person directly from my friend who works at the hospital. They know it's on both sides of us, and are watching it closely. The feeling I got was that they know it's coming, but don't want anything to happen that might speed its arrival.
Ask yerself when is a good time to open borders to a country that killed 600,000 of their own people, a country with so much vaccine hesitancy that its necessary to pay people and thats just the lazy and/or dumb people who are not politicaly opposed republicans ?
You know the answer: border guards gonna guard.Quote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
BITD I used to drive across the border with nothing but a driver's license (that nobody ever asked to see).
Just before the pandemic hit, you absolutely could not drive a car with American plates through any of the four mainland crossings in the Fraser Valley into Canada without being asked for a passport, nexus, or enhanced drivers license. And they would scan it every single time.
yeah but 9/11 was twenty years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
So only let in the vaccinatedQuote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
Don't remind me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ml242
The way I read that AD article is that US is going to allow Canadians to start coming to the US. I don't believe the US has any power to force Canada to let Americans in. But how I see this playing out is Canadians from Vancouver will flock to the Bellingham stores Ted mentions en masse, and then will be pissed when Canada tries to force them all into a 14 day quarantine upon return (yes, yes, they are idiots for trying this, but there are idiots up there too). This will put tremendous pressure on Canada to start easing restrictions. The allure of cheap gas and Traders Joe will be too great.Quote:
Originally Posted by garyfromterrace
I'd wager that lots of people in Vancouver would cross for their second vaccine dose, and gladly quarantine upon arrival back home.
The full gas tank, cheap wine, and peanut butter stuffed pretzels would be the icing on the cake.
wait, do people stock up on wine and then pay the duty? for a trunk full of two buck chuck maybe the quarantine wouldn’t be so bad.....
Yes.
And from what my friends in Vancouver tell me, the border guards let lots of purchases slide as long as you don't lie to them.
Lets just keep the borders closed forever.
https://media.giphy.com/media/POql6zsXZbmcE/giphy.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Asspen
I do miss going to VT and NHQuote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
And I'm scheming to head back to the Canadian Rockies...Quote:
Originally Posted by danmelon
and we miss your strip clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by danmelon
The variants and associated fear mongering are never going to end...The strong Canadiens are going to force baby Trudeau to open back up eventually. You heard it here first.
What is this, a political speech? Are you running for office XXX-er?Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
Thats good yo sed. I was generalizing. A lot love the tough talk even when theyre shooting themselves in the foot and its just a ruse to funnel tax payer $ to big business. Look at all the shit Ralph Klein pulled and they kept voting him in. The guy went to a poor house drunk as a skunk and threw pennies at them. Zero consequencesQuote:
Originally Posted by Shorty_J
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all pandemics eventually end man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asspen
thats how it looks from upstairs ehQuote:
Originally Posted by The AD
the crack heads living in the downstairs apt
think about it if 40% of republicans refuse to vax on political grounds thats like about as many people as there are living in Canada
Opening the borders would be a slap in the face of can citizens still restricting their travel. In BC we have the india strain do gov is only allowing travel within health regions as of a couple days ago. We're doing ok with the percentage of first vaccinations. Few have been fully vaccinated country wide. Once we have a substantial amount fully vaccinated it might be time to consider borders
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They become endemic, but never "end" like you say. The "end" you speak of is the collective population pushing back on the "temporary" powers given to the terrance and phillip government that they will refuse to give up without public outrage.Quote:
Originally Posted by danmelon
This is just dumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
Sounds like somebody more importanter than the average Canadien is gallavanting around the world for the india strain to reach canada, eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
thats coming so how do you figure it out when people don't think they need to prove it ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Summit
It'll happen as soon as the country is more or less back to normal. Just give us 4-6 weeks. We're a careful bunch up here, apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asspen
well whatever, its gonna end. In 5 years we wont be talking about it and shit will be back to normal. you heard it here first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asspen
You guys can end it the "Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness" way, and we will end it the "Peace, Order and Good Government" way.
Damn lotta people ded tho.
Canada only suspended flights from India on April 22nd, so it's no big secret how that strain got into Canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asspen
Doesn't matter what people think. If it's a rule, they can follow or not comeQuote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
And the average canadien cannot travel outside their "health zone"?Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
Oh the irony.
We deserve another summer of Sea to Sky/Whistler Bike Park without Americans as a reward for getting through the pandemic! Keep the border closed until after labour day! Hearing they might relax rules on loading chairs as well which should kill line-ups in the park, could be an epic summer.
Why is limiting travel still dumb when some places remain a tire fire?Quote:
Originally Posted by Summit
Quebec is > 60% vaxxed now, but I don't want the remaining 40 going to some music festival in Manitoba and bringing that shit back here.
Easy, you don't let them in. I'll say it again... if a person chooses not to be vaccinated, then Canada (or another country) can choose to keep them out. Seems pretty easy to me. What happens when you try to enter another country without a valid passport? Entry denied.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
Oh, and here's an interesting stat for all of our friendly neighbors to the north: in 2019, almost 21 million Canadians visited the US, but only 15 million US residents visited Canada. So you guys need us way more than we need you (discounting my need for more BC mountain biking this summer or fall, of course).
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