Goodness I fear it is I who have turned you into a crankQuote:
Originally Posted by The AD
in any case if you still can't figure out why the border isnt open we will try to find more reasons
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Goodness I fear it is I who have turned you into a crankQuote:
Originally Posted by The AD
in any case if you still can't figure out why the border isnt open we will try to find more reasons
Just do what Mexico does and have everyone push a button that randomly illuminates either a green light, meaning you can enter, or red light and you get searched.
Closed the border after the plague was already here and rampant in care homes in Quebec, the lower mainland and (maybe Ontario) plus let people fly in from points east for pretty much the whole time? Yeah he's a pandemic superstar. He fuckin' lucked out that our population density is so low and "we" tend to follow orders.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
See that ^^ is SO American, we don't have 2nd amendment rights, no carry of any kind is allowed so if a po-lice man seen anyone with a firearm of any kind in public they would be in big troubleQuote:
Originally Posted by rideit
he would disarm you by force, cuffed and into the back seat of the unit, sort it out at the station
I think border closures might be over by then
well its relative, what would erin the tool and his merry band of whacko nut jobs ( like Sloan ) have done, or Jagmeet Singh ?Quote:
Originally Posted by waxman
The thing is the rest of us are talking about potential solutions and you're still talking about last year. Time to move forward, don't you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
A guide I skied with told me about the airport security in Nepal, some security types were studying the x-ray baggage scanner looking for bombsQuote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
Craig went to the washroom on the way back the screen on the x-ray M/C was visible
it was dead
well no you just want in now because you say you got the vax and we should believe you when you already rpoved its not a good idea to trust you to do the right thing or the smart thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
so I agree how do all the people who want to come in offer proof to CBSA and it is a lot of poeple BTW
Therein lies the problem. They do not. Massachusetts wasn't even taking names of people getting shots. I know two people who walked in, no appt, no nothing. You want a shot, you got it! Thank you! And their computer system was down early on, so all of those people were lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by smmokan
Where I went in NH, it was all on paper with national guard guys writing it down. That most likely was entered into a data base, but with that much data being plugged in manually there is bound to be a significant amount of errors. The push was to get shots in arms, more so than tracking who got the shot, which is obviously most important.
Therefore, I don't see any reason for any country, state, province, whatever, to rush their openings. Conservative is the best approach especially in places that have not had the access the US has had to shots.
wow so you ^^ mean we should think about/ dealing with > America, CBSA should develop consistant policy with the other 200 countries in the world ?
Ours are definitdly revorded. Booked my first shot and recieved a text confirming it. When they had a wnd shot ready for me they texted agzin for me to book a time. Had the confirmation texted right after booking along with my booking code. Each shot nzme, address and date of birth are verified. Really well organized. There is no excuse not to be. No rewards for slackers
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In BC the vax is recorded by your HC #
they want that # when they perform any HC
If they want federal $ they need reciepts because funded health care system
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The idea that there's going to be a mass rush on the Canadian border by Americans packing counterfeit vaccine cards is just flat-out laughable. Does anybody up there realize how off the rails that thinking is? Worse paranoia than the Trumpers and all their whacko conspiracy theories.
Check the cards at the border, and if they look legit let 'em in. And if a few rare counterfeits do make it across, it ain't the end of the fucking world. Jesus.
People smuggle things INto Mexico?!Quote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
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Well, a smidge of this. In before times I and a handful of colleagues were in mtl and Toronto every other week (in my case for 6 years or so). The fact that we have a vested interest in opening the border (and keeping it open) should tell you we would not fuck with it. If Americans respect anything , it’s money.Quote:
Originally Posted by yeahman
If we were a bunch if redneck cousin fucking anti vaxxers just looking to shoot ducks and deer we could do that in upstate NY/VT (queue callback joke to upstate NY).
That said, until my customers are in their offices the Laps of luxury that are the Shang-ri-la on university and the W off Victoria square will have to wait. Though I live a good boondoggle more than most burnt out under achieving bay/wall st types.
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You're kinda fucking dumb, eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by yeahman
Their vaccination rate isn't high enough yet. And do you recall how this all started with ONE fucking person? So a few fucktards sneak in and happen to infect one person and kills them. No big deal.
Stupid fucking self absorbed Americans. Jeezus
Once their fax rate is high enough, dumbfuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackstraw
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Originally Posted by XXX-er
In 2036?Quote:
Originally Posted by yeahman
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Just saying if Canadians are worried about Americans faking their vax cards to go fish, hunt, and ski in Canada, I think that's not likely to happen. All those things can be easily done in the U.S. So there's no need for the border guards to have access to a national database of who's been vaxxed and who hasn't, all you really need to do is check cards at the border and I think that represents a reasonable approach to keeping unvaxxed people out. Does anybody really think a family of 5 is going to make a bunch of fake cards to go on a ski vacation when they can ski down here? Doesn't make much sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulster2626
Like your gun culture. your southern border policies. US health care anyone? etc, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by yeahman
Sorry, using the common sense of the average resident of the US as a justification doesn't really ring true to those of us on the other side of that invisible line.
then just stay down there & don't complain the border isnt open
even Americans will tell you not to trust Americans
Another reason the federal government haven't opened the border is that the conservative premiers (Ford and Kenney) have been railing against Trudeau for not closing the borders. To the point of having attack ads about it.
So if they open the borders and case counts go up then they will have more ammo.
How can they rail on him for not closing the border when the border has been closed?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tortoise
they’re assholes and say it should have been done earlier even though they wouldn’t of?
I think there needs to be some level of trust, and that's how policy has typically been set historically. You don't ban cars because some small percentage of people drive recklessly.Quote:
Originally Posted by yeahman
<insert gun ban logic here>Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
The border was never closed to those willing to fly. So if the hotel quarantine goes away plus the isolation of vaxxed Canadians goes well then there is a away. But there has to be some policy to cross the border you have to be vaxxed. Some who have been crossing the border for work may not be able to , well should be able to. Depends on how hard they the Feds want to make vac the requirement to cross the border for the foreseeable future. Wouldn't be losing many Liberal votes that way?
its like America is saying " I promise i won't come in your mouth "
I remember the good ol' days when I could go to Canada with my birth certificate, which is just as easy to forge as some vax card. I don't know why Canada trusted me then when they won't trust me now.
For Americans it has been.Quote:
Originally Posted by DougW
It was the US that insisted on us having a federal id and all our records to enter the US. Cry me a river
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I have never figured that one out . Driving people could cross and forth not even for work if they had dual citizenship or at least one of the couple. Had to bring docs. Lots of snowbirds ( old people who like the warmth) certainly crossed and had their RVs shipped. But I get you officially only essential travel is supposed to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
You might be a radical Islamist with corvidQuote:
Originally Posted by altasnob
Probably not the best analogy in this case. The US bans all sorts of vehicles from around the world because they don’t meet our safety standards. Pretty much what Canada is doing to us now, we don’t meet their safety standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
There were certain rules and loopholes that could get you in and out of Canada and the USA. They're both free countries with constitutions that allow for leaving/coming back and all that. And if you own property in the USA I have no problem with someone leaving Canada to check on (enjoy) it. If you have family in India I have no problem with you leaving Canada to take care of (visit) them. And I certainly have no problem that you're allowed back in to the country that you are a citizen of when it's time to come home.Quote:
Originally Posted by DougW
Could the quarantine thing been handled better? Maybe. But of the very limited amount of people I know who did travel to the USA in the last 12 months, half of them got a surprise visit by some government quarantine-checker. I'm really not sure what else could have been done. Contagious virus is gonna virus, you can't stop it only hope to slow it down.
You also ban people from getting a license that proves they are competent to drive said vehicle if/when they drive recklessly. Like, I dunno, providing people with a vaccine passport so as not to recklessly endanger another group of people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flounder
Driving is a perfect analogy.
Normally I'm all over the obscure references, but this one isn't jumping out at me. Pig War? Or did someone shoot someone's pet?Quote:
Originally Posted by abraham
Wow, this just blows my mind. Conservatives are supposed to be pro-business. I guess anything to hate on Justin plays well on the prairies.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tortoise