Doubtful. They do own a bunch of gear box patents, but all of the pics show it wired into an AXS derailleur. I’m thinking it’s going to talk with the ax’s system to detorque during shifts…
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Sram motor is a rebadg3d brose. Ive seen side by side pics showing that. Ill look
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An ePinion gearbox sure would be cool
I hope they keep them seperate along with the bb's. Itd be nice to do most of the service at home. Maybe in the near future we see fulgur bikes and polini motors in north america. Seperate companies but i see fulgur is expanding distribution and they must have motor servicing set up. Nice looking bikes that are doing really well at ewsE . Polini is the same mounting pattern as shimano and its completely serviceable, unlike the shimano bic pens
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If that invention is durable, along with a 1 x 4 drivetrain that'd solve a lot of problems. Ez to work on and replace if necessary, small cage derailleur, burly chain, lighter weight, should be affordable. Sign me up
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Highly doubtful. Especially given the Specialized Brose connection.
Brose motors are shit. I’ve personally changed more belts on those for friends that have had them fail mid ride then I can count.
Any system that is belt drive or has an Rosenberger plug is an instant hard pass for me.
Ya just saw it on the interwebs. Nothing confirmed. Shape and mount looked very similar. I know brose had big issues and specialized warranteed a very high % of them. I was waiting to see how the new one was working out before i pan it. Give it a good dolid year. They changed a lot on it. New sprague clutch, software aimed at smoothing the power to help the belts and burlier belt
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Speaking of hubs......after 216 miles and 30 days, Trek Rail hub had a bearing or something fail (will edit later w/better description). This got noticed after a 3,000 ft (30 miles loop) and 2,000 ft. (15 mile loop) descent in 2 days.:eek: It took Trek a week to finally agree to having the shop get it fixed under warranty. It's not something they had seen before. Hopefully, I'll get it back on Friday.
I'm missing my bike :( and it's weird jumping on the carbon hard tail, but I can't see ever giving it up.
It's humorous reading about and seeing other's attitudes and reactions to ebikes on several fronts. One couple gave me grieve 'YOU got an ebike...pussy??', but got another friend to shuttle them to the top of the 2,000 descent, while another buddy and I tooled up. Me in Eco and him in tour (after 2 major crash recoveries.)
I've pretty much fully switched over to E-bikes. The only place. I get any flak is occasionally on Galbraith, and its usually from someone that just moved to town. Typically I dont bother stopping to engage ( they dont need to know I'm having more fun). I did have one particular guy give me a more shit than normal about ebikes being illegal up there, and I just reminded him, that every trail in town started off as being illegally built and most are still illegal, even some of the most popular ones. The official policy here is that we officially look the other way as long as it doesn't have a throttle. The WMBC directors know E-bikes are coming and there is no stopping it ( Almost the entire board owns them, as do just about every trail builder in town)... so its more of an issue of land managers either dragging their feet, or just being behind the times.
It's no different than when fat skis first came out, with the same push back. Soon as more people start to ride them, attitudes will change quickly. Three years ago it was a hard no on Galbraith. Now, I've done rides where I have seen more e-bikes at the top than non... change is coming.
Sounds like you're waffling a bit on "deciding who should be allowed based upon what recreation gear they own."
I want to run my Arctic Cat up to Baldy at Snowbird. Why shouldn't I be allowed to? Regardless, I'll probably just do it anyways because the only reason I can't is just because land managers are dragging their feet on progress.
There will be hold outs for a bit from diehards, but the change is inevitable.
One clear issue with possible serious consequences are local routes where 'everyone knows' to go a certain direction on certain trails due to the steepness of a climb or a technical section, etc, only to be surprised on the downhill when someone without local knowledge is heading the opposite direction on an ebike.
All of those trails here are already signed as directional. The head o the WMBC actually mentioned last year that they have not received any complaints about that happening, so they feel its a non-issue given the signage we already have in place to keep hikers / horses from going up down specific trails.
Here it is. More in the description. Yannick Pontal won the last ewsE on a levo for black box sram with it
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BRB, gonna go climb blade reversal.
An ebike just makes too much sense here in the PNW where many/most rides are big climbs leading to sustained steep descents all the way down. I feel like ebikes might not be as ideal for rolling/punchy XC trails, or for mellower flowy undulating trails. IDK. Im just waiting for 2-3 years after ebikes are dialed in, so i can grab a used one for less than the cost of my car.
Just took a parking lot ride on a Spesh Levo, shouldn't have done that.
One thing I'm pretty sure of is the only group that identifies them as different is mountain bikers themselves. To hikers, horseman and dirt bikers its the same toy. Until the finger pointing ends we will just be fighting ourselves.
I remember a quote from Brendog a couple years ago where he essentially said,
You don’t need to advertise Ebikes. All you need is for someone to ride one for 30 seconds in a parking lot and they want one.
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I do know or know of people who never did anything physical or rode bikes who got commuters or cargo or stretch E- bikes with hub motors so there are those people but they are using them to commute or run around town or SFT
edit: I think those ^^ are most of the people are buying E-bikes made of chinesium, they buy em on line for 2 or 3 K, the bike shows up in a couple weeks they ride them
I can't think of any E-bikers on the local trail system who don't know what they are doing cuz its just too hard and the real E-mtnbikes bikes are too expensive
Yeah, don't have any such thing in the rest of the world.:fmicon:Quote:
An ebike just makes too much sense here in the PNW where many/most rides are big climbs leading to sustained steep descents all the way down.
The Repeater Rd, climb to blade and beyond is hellacious on a normal bike...It's not a coincidence where the Repeater got its name. The guy who built Blade, pretty much exclusively rides E-Bikes now. They just make a lot of sense for the stuff we like to ride. I think the new Relay is going to be the ticket for the more rally polly XC trails such as Galbraith, etc. After seeing the Relay in person and talking to few friends that have ridden it, I'm going to pick one up and sale my analog bike. The only question, will it replace the Repeater, or compliment it in the quiver. Time will tell.
That is 100% truth.
Yeah, that pesky motorized thingy.Quote:
One thing I'm pretty sure of is the only group that identifies them as different is mountain bikers themselves.
Ebike on flowy xc trail is gold. This is especially true when accompanied by a singing two year old girl stoked out of her mind on a Mac Ride.
Side note: the macride is fantastic. My daughter is comfortable riding bermy flow track on it. We don't catch air since she's not wearing a full face ;) and no drifting allowed. I've avoided bumpy trails as I'm not sure how much force gets transmitted to her melon.
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The $200 I spent on a macride was the best money I have ever spent on bike parts. Attachment 419843Attachment 419844 I was able to ride just about everything with him on the front except the really tech stuff. We even did a few rock rolls (dont tell mom)
The best part was when I asked him one morning what we should do on our ride and he said “ dad I just want to do jumps, berms and roots”.
I don’t have any pics of us after I modified it to fit the ebike as mom couldn’t keep up then. In hind sight I really wish I would have put a GoPro on the bars to capture his expressions and stoke.
So true! I put the gopro on the other day. Just need to edit it on my wife's ancient MacBookair.
I'm hesitant to hit anything rocky or air with my daughter on the macride. Afraid it will be too bouncy and scramble her brain. Once she is standing more, perhaps.
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Age 3~4 is prime time with the shotgun seats. Their necks are strong enough you can legitimately ride good stuff, just dont F'ck up. Now that my son is too big for the shotgun seat, we are starting to tow... for a few weeks I kept trying to get him to go, and he kept saying, maybe next time. I finally asked him why he didnt want to go and he asked me if he had to do the rock rolls or "tree gap jumps" on his bike. Once I assured him that was not the case, he was totally in for riding the trails on his bike.
“Lap 2 - everybody is already regretting their life choices”
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There is a used Rad Rover on CL for almost the price of a new one. I'll add that greedy clueless sellers on CL seem to be common in my neck of the woods. What would you say a reasonable discount for a used Ebike? 20-30%? What is the downside of buying a basic ebike that's 1-3 years old? Battery life?
Yeah, batteries have a finite number of charges / discharges and the condition of the battery will depend a bit on how they stored it / cared for it. If it's a few years old, I'd probably be looking for a ~40% discount from new. Not sure if they're get-able at that price, but if they're not, I'd probably just buy a new one.
Ok so i figured out what was going on with the E010 code, I didnt physicaly do anything to fix it cuz its been firmware all along
from day 1 the E010 had been intermittent until bike was completely dead sitting in my dinning room, so I was taking bike to the dealer at Xmas and it starts working 100% perfect so there is no point in taking it in
I start riding it this spring and E010 shows up eventualy becomes a solid bug but i figure it out that if I can get the bike going before it thro's code E010 I can ride it all day so its kinda like having to bump start a car
shop bro asks if I checked firmware which I already did back in the fall but I check it again and there is a new level of Firmware so I down load DU-EP00 4.1.8 Dec 20/2021
10 months/ 1000km/a whole lot of WTF/ 2 down loads later it runs perfect, if you count the firmware it came with i'm on the 3rd set of firmware, the original was not very good, the first down load didn't fix anything the second down load finlay doing the trick
it strikes me that we are now driving computers with 2 wheels, this whole clusterfuck reminds me of working for the mother corp, IBM
Funny, the firmware on my 2016 Pivot is still up to date. On another note I see the folks at the Y/C riding their E-bikes all over the place except on the trails. The wealthy are so weird.