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I wish we had the option just to pay the (non AI) writers a little bit directly, like a tip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan
[QUOTE=rideit;[I wish we had the option just to pay the (non AI) writers a little bit directly, like a tip.[/QUOTE]
Substack. Haven’t used it but isn’t that the business model?
Concert presale 7 months out? Like I know if I’m available in fucking May for a concert in October of the previous year. This new trend is some bullshit.
I agree, total BS. I guess with such a healthy secondary market they see no reason not to starting selling the tickets very early. Still sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzworthy
The new normal is to just buy the tickets, and if you cannot go, sell them on stubhub for a likely profit, or minimal loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzworthy
I buy tickets for one reason. To go see the show. The rest is annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
I know too many people that get stuck with tickets that don't sell on the secondaries because the show isn't sold out.
Do it. Doooooooo it. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...7757652d57.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Buzzworthy
I really should. Let me work on my fabulous outfit a bit longer as I ponder.
That's fine and all for nationally recognized publications, BUUUUUUUUUT I ain't about to go through all the hassle (and recurring payments) to read some random article from the Des Moines Register or the Billings Gazette, ya know? And it seems to be that local papers do this the most. Nothing against them, but you can't blame people from outside the region for not wanting to bother subscribing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan
Yeah, fuck those rags. It's not like they have a staff of 3 who probably pull down $18k a year, each. They definitely don't need your $4.99 a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by MontuckyFried
Don’t call what your wearing an outfit…Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzworthy
Come on now. No one’s going to sign up for every small town newspaper that randomly has an article they come across.Quote:
Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan
Something like ‘click here to pay $0.50 by Venmo or whatever’ to read it would be better for everyone, I think.
Agreed, but keeping your ad blocker on and then bitching about having to pay is a bitch move.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
Agree with that, if that’s what’s keeping you from reading it for free.Quote:
Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan
Some of those folks may not still be alive come May.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
Not sure that was really the original complaint tho. More that they tell you to turn your adblock off to help support them, so you do, and THEN they tell you that you need to be a subscriber to read the article.Quote:
Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan
You guys are the reason that there's so much consolidation and polarization in our media today. You're too fucking cheap and lazy to pay for content. Embrace the suck, you have no one to blame but yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by MontuckyFried
Exactly. What would be even better is if more would incorporate the use of BAT (Brave Attention Token). I have a little red triangle by the address bar. For authors who participate in the currency, one can simply click the triangle and make a contribution. Imagine if you will, something more widespread that would be akin to dropping a quarter into a newspaper machine! Super simple. No accounts to sign up for. No automatic payments. No forgotten subscriptions to worry about. THAT'S something I think a lot of us could get behind. I'm happy to pay a small amount to some random newspaper in BFE. I just am not willing to sign up for one more damn account. Let alone for a small paper from a small town on the other side of the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
Anyway, look into Brave. I think they're really onto something with the concept.
https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/a...-Brave-Rewards
False. See my post right above. I AM willing to make contributions. Just don't make me sign up for yet another account to do so. Make it easy just as I have explained how to. If media organizations aren't able to figure this one out, I'm not sure what to say. They really should collaborate with Brave or come up with something similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan
"Want to read this article? Simply click on the red triangle above and contribute 10¢, or whatever pricing scheme they want to do. Boom. Article unlocked.
This isn't too hard to understand. A dime doesn't pay for the article. $4.99 a year pays for the article. Ten cents doesn't even cover the processing fee. Do you really think you're the first person to come up with of this wild concept?Quote:
Originally Posted by MontuckyFried
Im with montucky on this. When faced with a paywall, i just dont read the article and move on with my day. If there was a painless way to drop $0.10 with a single click to access the article i would almost certainly do that. Would you rather receive $4.99 from 5 people for a years worth of content, or $0.10 from 1000 people multiple times per year everytime they get linked to one of your articles?Quote:
Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan
Make it one click, and make the price per use negligibly small and people will mindlessly pay the fee. Its the same strategy as one-click, 1 day free shipping on amazon... except without any added overhead.
Don't you think if that business model worked, everyone would have been doing it by now? If you paid a dime, nine cents would go to the payment processor.Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
For FB, IG and YouTube be, advertisers pay for views and make zillions doing it. TV streaming forces you to watch ads for a period of time. You’d think the newspaper industry could devise a pop up system with ads for 15 seconds or something for advertisers. With a subscription it’d be ad free.
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Not with the methods I mentioned. Try looking into BAT. Seriously. It's a 5% fee from contributions to content creators, so if somebody gave you ten cents, they'd get a $0.005 cut. It's WAY more streamlined than most payment processors and while not the lowest % fee, it cuts a lot of the red tape and middlemen. It also allows us, the consumers, to participate in the ad revenue as well. I've earned around $40 which is in my little "wallet," which I can then spend freely with participating journalists and other content creators if I so choose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan
Seriously. Look into it. I believe it only hasn't become as huge as it could be due to lack of recognition. Doesn't have Microsoft, Facebook, Twatter, and the rest behind it, ya know? Why?! Because Brave's business model runs contrary to most of Big Tech's, which means THEY hoard all the advertising bucks to themselves and want the rest of us to not have any say in the matter. BAT is the antithesis to our current standard online economy.
I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you, I know you have this insatiable need to be right about everything. I've been in this industry for 25 years. The bean counters have tried pretty much everything to make the model work. Micro contributions don't work. Period. But I'm sure you know better than we do.Quote:
Originally Posted by MontuckyFried
I'm not pretending I know for certain it's the best way for them. Just throwing out something I think COULD work. You could at least bother doing some research on (or experiencing first hand like I have) what I'm talking about before being so against something novel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan
I'll tell you what DOESN'T work tho: Whatever the hell they're doing currently. But hey. What do I know? Welp. Enjoy the industry's continued death spiral, then.
You're still not hearing me. It's not novel. You didn't invent the wheel.Quote:
Originally Posted by MontuckyFried
Micro. Donations. Dont. Work.
Your minutes of googling that makes you think it will isn't "research."
Sorry.
Signed, A $649 billion dollar industry. (who may have done some "research")
People. People annoy me.
Driving around town there are cars and trucks flying full sized flags. Yes, yes I know we are in the United States. My IQ is above 80. I do not need your jingoistic BS shoving it in my face (do people in other countries do this?)
November 5th is not going to be the end. It's just going to be the beginning of a bigger nightmare no matter the outcome. HATE WHAT IS HAPPENING! FUCK!
You ever been in Europe during the World Cup? They go absolutely bonkers in the finals. I was in Germany in '04 when they were up against Turkey. Both flags being paraded everywhere, loads of horn honking, people hanging outside of cars and convertibles waving their banners, and yup. Have witnessed these displays of national pride devolve into full-blown riots too and had to GTFO.Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
Perhaps politics are our World Cup? Really brings out the more tribal side in people I guess. Haha.
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That's a little different and I think you know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MontuckyFried
The bigger the American flag, the more they love Putin.Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
People will pay for thoughtful content. I blame the media on this one for dumbing down their shit way below the common denominator. Niche independent journalism and publications are doing just fine. The rest can die a painful death for their drivel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan
Germans showing their support for Germany vs. Americans trying to show how they are "more" American than other Americans.Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
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Originally Posted by KQ
I was thinking of buying a big Kamala flag and a flag pole hitch to my jacked up van and parade it around here in Utah, as a joke. I'm not THAT big of a Kamala fan but I want to make the libs laugh a bit. Those big flags are so immature.
Should I?
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Originally Posted by muted reborn
I'm sorry KQ. That sucks. Shit's not as bad up here yet, but the jingoistic wackjobs down there are empowering our jingoistic wackjobs I'm afraid. God damn I hope blue prevails.Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
Doesn’t annoy me as much baffles me - the existence of White Claw Zero. A 0% alcohol seltzer is just a flavored seltzer water right? This isn’t even NA beer.