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I *probably* don't see that, that often, maybe because there are few 4 ways around here, but occasionally I see people looking like they are going to blow the stop sign then slam on the brakes last second, and look at you like, "Why you no go?" without knowing how chaotic they look driving. I don't go because instinct says don't pull in front of cars going fast, and those people suck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
yeah, I think that is what these people are thinking, that I'm going to blow the stop sign and they don't want to go through for fear of that. Except I am most definitely slowing down to stop at the sign and don't have to slam on the brakes to come to a complete stop. Admittedly, I probably would roll through the stop and not come to a complete stop if they didn't force me to do so, but there's no way I look like someone fixing to blow the stop sign to any form of decent intelligent driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by muted reborn
This so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
^^Hahaha. SO true!
And then you have these guys (I'm sure this has been posted here before)...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rpdQvuAnqM
The no, you go, is sooo pnw.
We also have the "I'm on the right, but you were at the 4-way before me, and have been stopped for 15 seconds - so you should just go. It won't even slow me down. But you won't."
Niceholes
I believe ya. People here won't wait for anyone or anything in an intersection they just go go goQuote:
Originally Posted by Danno
The rules of the road are there for a reason. Just follow them. Trying to be "nice" out there isn't helping anyone.
You'd be surprised. Fortunately the 4 way stop 12 lane interesection near my house where I used to do that is now a roundabout. So life is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
Ive encountered many a Driver C. Not being overly cautious, but i recently had a near miss with a Tesla who was Car A that blew through the roundabout at easily over 40 mph to go straight. When i entered as Car C my sight distance showed no car coming on my left, by the time i was fully in the roundabout the tesla was coming in HOT from Car A's position, and then just barely missed the rear of my car as they flew straight through.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
Basically, roundabouts produce 2 different assholes. The folks who just want to yield to everyone everywhere, and the folks who go out of their way to create close calls and impose their right-of-way on other drivers (similar to assholes who wont let you merge, or who avoid turnlane stoplight backups by cutting in at the last minute).
Bingo. It's nice that you stopped to let the car turn left across a double yellow in front of you, but now the five cars behind you think you are an asshole because we all just missed the light.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
WTF happened to merging at freeway speed???
I deal with a roundabout like this EVERY day. The issue is one roundabout entrance (A) is an exit from an interstate and people enter this tiny roundabout too fast and just completely own everyone, it's a non-stop stream of "A' people at rush hours. If the designer of the roundabout made it so you couldn't enter it at 35mph and the made the circle bigger, this would not be a problem. I blame them.Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
There are a series of traffic circles now between Sedona and Village of Oak Creek. They completely mess up traffic because the tourons don't know how to deal with yielding and right of way. There are times you're better off going the long way around almost to Cottonwood if trying to get to West Sedona.
There are a bunch of two lane roundabouts getting installed in the Bend area and even after having driven on them a fair amount, there are some spots where I still don't understand how the inside lane is supposed to exit. As far as I can tell, there are places where the outside driver can stay in the roundabout and the inside driver is allowed to exit.
This is usually how it works:Quote:
Originally Posted by dan_pdx
https://dot.nebraska.gov/media/0o3by...roundabout.png
https://media1.tenor.com/m/dPNYgqiXd...ound-about.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by dan_pdx
What’s the problem with being on the inside lane and when making the right, since it’s the same path as for those heading straight or making a U-turn when coming from a different entrance?Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
(Other than the lane markings at the entrance…)
I assume it’s just to maintain higher throughput, not a concern about right of ways, or creating some hazard?
The worst is when B goes towards C. I go through hundreds and hundreds of roundabouts monthly. I've seen everything you can think of multiple times. My favorite is the A to B air direct. And I know two people who have done it personally.
You could probably get away with it most of the time... but if someone is right next to you wanting to go straight through and you sideswipe them trying to turn right from the inside, they're gonna be pissed and you're gonna get a ticket.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
Not sure we're on the same page? I'm talking about the person in the inside lane going through (exit at 12 o'clock) while the person in the outside lane stays in the roundabout, intending to exit at nine o'clock. So inside person exits across a lane of traffic that potentially is staying in the circle. I just looked for an opening and exited, but have no idea if that's the intent.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
Yeah, I wasn’t talking about your situation, just thinking about skared’s diagram.Quote:
Originally Posted by dan_pdx
Right. Wasn’t picturing that you and the car right next to you could enter side by side…Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
usually is the key word here. consistency would be nice so I'm not guessing.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
There is a new roundabout at our big hospital - the circle is maybe 15-20 feet wide and it has walls above eye level so you can't see through the circle. And despite it's size - it has two lanes going around it. One of the most comical designs ever.
But nobody blows into at 35mph, so maybe brilliant?
Consult the automotive laws for your state. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by muted reborn
This is often the core issue. Roundabouts installed where traffic lights used to be, and there just isn't enough real estate to do it properly. Forcing the cars to turn right into a roundabout makes them slow down.Quote:
Originally Posted by muted reborn
We have a new one that's no bigger than the small intersection it replaced, and the island part is flat so delivery trucks can get through. Well guess what... people are just driving straight through the middle, so now it's a 30 mph uncontrolled intersection with a barely perceptible speed bump. Yay "progress!"
There are a couple of roundabouts in neighborhoods near me in SF that have been in place at least 50 years. A couple years back, the city put up stop signs at all the entrances to said roundabouts. Because people are retards
That sounds like a fun thing to do in my spare time. I'll guess it's going to say is there many different types of roundabouts that can be built. Including a two lane roundabout that's about 15 feet wide with 5ish foot walls around the circle.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
Those diagrams are all wrong. This is how you properly navigate a roundabout. Works from either lane.
https://youtu.be/xTk_kPeA63c?si=kiyIieG8FJ-UOZl4
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Them Duke boys is jelly!
awesome soundtrack…
You’re thinking about it half way. Right lane is ONLY for right turn or straight. Left lane is ONLY to go straight, turn left, or make a u turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
Being on the inside to turn right will be a problem for the right lane folk. Being on the outside to do a u turn will be a problem for the inside folk. When entering the roundabout you have to yield to inside folk who are exiting the roundabout immediately after where you’re entering.
If there’s more than two car lengths my car is gonna fill it. If that means somebody slows down substantially that means they aren’t matching speed in the roundabout and I’d be happy to discuss roundabout strategy with them over coffee.
While I don't have the answer to your question, I DO know that this ISN'T the way:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mofro261
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ziisbatYUDQ
LMAO!!!
Not just in roundabouts but everywhere--yield doesn't mean enter, turn right on red, etc if the car with the right of way can slam on the brakes in time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
Curious where your matching speed rule comes from .
You got people enforcing those in your state? That must be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
He didn't match my skid into the 4 way stop, so I'm first.
Do you imagine that matching speed with traffic isn’t a basic traffic concept? Especially in high traffic density situations? That’s not a thing you do?Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
Let’s chat over coffee.
And no, nobody should actually be slamming on brakes. But if somebody is traveling significantly faster than traffic I’m not terribly concerned if they have to slow down after I’ve entered a roundabout if I’m at the same speed as the person in front of me when they approach.
Hey, man... I never said *that.*Quote:
Originally Posted by concretejungle
:rolleyes: :D
Intersection design is based on sight distance for entering traffic. If you are going significantly above the design speed for the roadway, then the sight distance will be quite a bit more than the intersection was designed for and the speeding car has just made the intersection unsafe.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
So, if you are entering a roundabout at +35mph, you are the unsafe driver, as everyone else is going 15-20mph and expecting you to do the same. Remember that is not really excess speed that is dangerous to other drivers... its unexpected differences in speed that is dangerous.
this is why properly designed roundabouts will always have a chicane/wiggle, or other traffic calming device before entering to ensure entering traffic has slowed way down from standard road speed.
The worst is when you get stuck behind someone on an on-ramp who not only doesn't try to accelerate to freeway speed, but basically just gets up to about 40 and keeps it there. It's infuriating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mofro261
PASS 'EM ON THE RIGHT! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by The AD