Shit that annoys you

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Originally Posted by The AD

From my perspective I'm never going to get butt hurt about someone filling a seat that's otherwise going to go empty.

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of course not, which is why mustonen's situation is baffling. But if you're referring to californiagrown's post, that isn't the case. There was a singles line filling those empty seats, but it was too long for him, so he found a triple group in line and joined them as a single rather than waiting in the singles line.

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Originally Posted by Danno

But if you're referring to californiagrown's post, that isn't the case. There was a singles line filling those empty seats, but it was too long for him, so he found a triple group in line and joined them as a single rather than waiting in the singles line.

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I mean, yeah, you are basically just bypassing exactly what the singles line is there for if you do that that. This is sort of like people who drive solo in carpool lanes. Obviously they are just in more of a hurry than everyone else and their time is more important than yours. :)

My comments have mainly been in support of the assertion that six and eight-pack chairs tend to have more unfilled seats because it's just hard to get groups corraled with that many people involved.

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Originally Posted by Danno

oThere was a singles line filling those empty seats, but it was too long for him, so he found a triple group in line and joined them as a single rather than waiting in the singles line.

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that is correct. I also sometimes ignore parking attendants who are trying to get me to park on the far side of the lot to complete a row, and instead drive right up front to start the new row. Ive also bought clipped lift tickets in the lot, and brought my own beer and lunch into the ski area lodge too!


More things that annoy me- folks who sit on their poles and then grumble loudly while shifting things around when a parent with small kid ask to put the bar down. I just grumble when i get whacked by the overzealous bar pullers who yank it down before your skis clear the load ramp.

Again. What. Ski. Area?

Sounds like you are moving in the direction of being accountable for cutting the line.

Remember, I'll park in skier drop off, stuff my pockets with beers, load via the employee line, jump the slow signs and spray the patio at Snoasis!

But I own my bullshit and don't come with some self justified "functionality the same" lawyerly fart sniff.

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Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles

But I own my bullshit and don't come with some self justified "functionality the same" lawyerly fart sniff.

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some bullshit smells worse than others.

So you want say what ski area and lift you cut the single-line? Got it.

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people should get in whatever line gets them on a chair the fastest. If the singles line seems fastest groups can get in it (as long as they don't expect to sit together.) If the singles line is way backed up singles should feel free to join less than full groups in one of the other lines. It makes little difference--if the singles line is significantly faster or slower than other lines, in fairly short order it won't be any more--human nature being what it is. What does make a difference--for the worse--is people getting aggro because they think someone else breaking their "rules".

Interesting that foggy thinks it's ok to join a long line outside the maze from the side (if that's what he's saying). That breaks my "rule". I hate lines that get wider instead of longer. It just makes life in the line more unpleasant for everyone. Ultimately it's on the resort to get out more rope and snowstakes when that happens.

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Originally Posted by KQ

I find this kinda annoying.

Apparently GenZ thinks people who use this emoji [emoji106]are passive aggressive and/or angry at them.

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Same goes for ellipses...

Is it time to be annoyed about how people disembark the chair now?

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Originally Posted by Rideski

Is it time to be annoyed about how people disembark the chair now?

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Originally Posted by old goat

people should get in whatever line gets them on a chair the fastest. If the singles line seems fastest groups can get in it (as long as they don't expect to sit together.) If the singles line is way backed up singles should feel free to join less than full groups in one of the other lines. It makes little difference--if the singles line is significantly faster or slower than other lines, in fairly short order it won't be any more--human nature being what it is. What does make a difference--for the worse--is people getting aggro because they think someone else breaking their "rules".

Interesting that foggy thinks it's ok to join a long line outside the maze from the side (if that's what he's saying). That breaks my "rule". I hate lines that get wider instead of longer. It just makes life in the line more unpleasant for everyone. Ultimately it's on the resort to get out more rope and snowstakes when that happens.

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It is not really like that although the people that don't like it like it's like that. C Chair has a regular 4 row corral. The difference is that the traffic flow is all from one side (one of those lifts where you have to go past the lift to get to the line) so it backs up on the left. So you just go around that back up and line up for the right most row.

And its way less that it being "my way" and more about it has been that way for 30 years. Just like leaving your skis in the front row at Alta. Its just how it is.

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Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles

It is not really like that although the people that don't like it like it's like that. C Chair has a regular 4 row corral. The difference is that the traffic flow is all from one side (one of those lifts where you have to go past the lift to get to the line) so it backs up on the left. So you just go around that back up and line up for the right most row.

And its way less that it being "my way" and more about it has been that way for 30 years. Just like leaving your skis in the front row at Alta. Its just how it is.

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And you can either take advantage of it or let someone else take advantage of it...

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Originally Posted by The AD

Any more than four people and it starts getting difficult to tell how many are in the group, so chairs go up that aren't full often. You really need someone acting as a traffic cop and specifically telling singles to join groups to reduce this and it seems pretty rare at most resorts to have the resources to do this very often.

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Sunday River has been doing an excellent job filling chairs on the new six pack at Barker.

The downside is that they're doing a good enough job matching trips groups of two and three with three and four, to the point where the singles line moves slower than the lines for groups of two and three.

Knowing that one side of the maze typically has shorter lines and going there, or knowing that a lift has two mazes and everyone funnels to one of them so you should make the effort to go to the other one, is very different than deciding that waiting in the singles line isn't for you and finding a group of 3 to join near the front (IOW, deciding you are more entitled than the plebes waiting in the singles line). Finding the fastest line to get in is a time honored tradition (and having knowledge of which line that is). Deciding that you are better than the people getting in line and skipping that line is called cutting.

If the singles line is long, I roll single into the four or six pack line and take that many singles with me.

Big Sky has a lifty organizing everybody into groups of 6 before they go through the RFID gate. Invariably one or two or three people can't get their pass to trigger the gate without dancing around in front of the sensor for 30 seconds, so after the gate it's a completely unorganized shitshow. Many empty chairs going up, super annoying.

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Originally Posted by Rideski

If the singles line is long, I roll single into the four or six pack line and take that many singles with me.

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Yep.
Sometimes the single line is for suckers.
You, you, and you; we're a four pack now.

Then I try to note the person who was in front of me to judge if it was to proper decision.

Unrelated: I may have been a part of attempt to get eight people on to the four pack at Loveland.
Late season, pow-day frenzy!

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Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles

It is not really like that although the people that don't like it like it's like that. C Chair has a regular 4 row corral. The difference is that the traffic flow is all from one side (one of those lifts where you have to go past the lift to get to the line) so it backs up on the left. So you just go around that back up and line up for the right most row.

And its way less that it being "my way" and more about it has been that way for 30 years. Just like leaving your skis in the front row at Alta. Its just how it is.

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OK I get it. Makes sense. There's a few lifts around here that have two separate mazes for people arriving from different directions. that are supposed to alternate. Nothing wrong with getting in the shorter line if you're willing to work your way to it.

But people who join lines from the side still annoy me.

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Originally Posted by Danno

Knowing that one side of the maze typically has shorter lines and going there, or knowing that a lift has two mazes and everyone funnels to one of them so you should make the effort to go to the other one, is very different than deciding that waiting in the singles line isn't for you and finding a group of 3 to join near the front (IOW, deciding you are more entitled than the plebes waiting in the singles line). Finding the fastest line to get in is a time honored tradition (and having knowledge of which line that is). Deciding that you are better than the people getting in line and skipping that line is called cutting.

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I have to admit that if I'm in the singles line and I see singles joining groups it annoys me--that I wasn't smart enough to pick the fastest line. So the next run that's what I do. And sometimes I stay in the slower singles line because I don't feel like being sociable enough to ask a group if I can join them.
But admit it, what you're really annoyed about is lines, period. And when you're annoyed it's nice to have some person to focus you're annoyance on.

Our hill hasn't joined the rfid revolution yet, so we still have liftys overseeing the lines and scanning passes. What really chaps my ass lately has been liftys that take it upon themselves to pair up groups of 2 for the quad chair. That should be the group of 2 plus 2 singles on each chair. It's always been 2 singles on each chair, but now the new crop of lifties is fucking everything up and the singles line is moving slow as shit. And to make things worse, they're inconsistent about it, so you never know if the singles line is going to move at the normal brisk pace, or if it's gonna take forever because Brad, the new lifty from Ohio is screwing everything up.

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Originally Posted by toast2266

Our hill hasn't joined the rfid revolution yet, so we still have liftys overseeing the lines and scanning passes. What really chaps my ass lately has been liftys that take it upon themselves to pair up groups of 2 for the quad chair. That should be the group of 2 plus 2 singles on each chair. It's always been 2 singles on each chair, but now the new crop of lifties is fucking everything up and the singles line is moving slow as shit. And to make things worse, they're inconsistent about it, so you never know if the singles line is going to move at the normal brisk pace, or if it's gonna take forever because Brad, the new lifty from Ohio is screwing everything up.

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Fuckin' Ohioans, amirite?? :mad:

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Originally Posted by toast2266

Our hill hasn't joined the rfid revolution yet, so we still have liftys overseeing the lines and scanning passes. What really chaps my ass lately has been liftys that take it upon themselves to pair up groups of 2 for the quad chair. That should be the group of 2 plus 2 singles on each chair. It's always been 2 singles on each chair, but now the new crop of lifties is fucking everything up and the singles line is moving slow as shit. And to make things worse, they're inconsistent about it, so you never know if the singles line is going to move at the normal brisk pace, or if it's gonna take forever because Brad, the new lifty from Ohio is screwing everything up.

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Yep, this is why I skied 6-7 runs on Sunday as a single and never got in the singles line. It’s painful to stand in the singles line and watch the lifties pair up groups from the 4 converging lines while you wait. Now I go to the shortest of the 4 lines and find a group without 4, which is most of them.

Fucking plantar fasciitis, broken calcaneus is on the mend and this shit hurts worse than splitting my calc like a piece of wood. I gotta use my crutches until it loosens up in the morning.

Oh, and whatever arctic blast is about to freeze the shit out of us. I am over those.

TRG mods fucking annoy me.

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Originally Posted by Buzzworthy

TRG mods fucking annoy me.

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Meh. She'll get fewer clicks in that abyss. I consider that a win.

Gout/arthritis from broken joints is pissing me off these days. Considering amputation

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Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan

Meh. She'll get fewer clicks in that abyss. I consider that a win.

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Sure but now gotta deal with the resident moronz over there….

My snowblower shat the bed this morning. It ran fine in the last month or two and the motor is now seized. Balls.

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Originally Posted by The AD

From my perspective I'm never going to get butt hurt about someone filling a seat that's otherwise going to go empty.

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...other than being pissed that I didn't notice it first. (Ya bastard!)

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Originally Posted by yeahman

Big Sky has a lifty organizing everybody into groups of 6 before they go through the RFID gate. Invariably one or two or three people can't get their pass to trigger the gate without dancing around in front of the sensor for 30 seconds, so after the gate it's a completely unorganized shitshow. Many empty chairs going up, super annoying.

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Same deal at the Jordan 8; they switched things up for the Barker 6 so the gates are at the entry to the corral before you spread out into the singles/2-3/4-6 lanes. Works well when it's busy, but becomes a different choke point when it isn't (plus there's no singles line at the RFID gate, so you end up either weasling ahead of groups or getting held up before you can work around you the singles line).

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Originally Posted by Danno

Knowing that one side of the maze typically has shorter lines and going there, or knowing that a lift has two mazes and everyone funnels to one of them so you should make the effort to go to the other one, is very different than deciding that waiting in the singles line isn't for you and finding a group of 3 to join near the front (IOW, deciding you are more entitled than the plebes waiting in the singles line). Finding the fastest line to get in is a time honored tradition (and having knowledge of which line that is). Deciding that you are better than the people getting in line and skipping that line is called cutting.

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I think we're going to have to agree to disagree there. Any single who's willing to make the effort to join a group in one of the other lines is welcome to it. By your logic, should we forbid two friends who are skiing together from separating and going into the singles line?

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Originally Posted by John_B

My snowblower shat the bed this morning. It ran fine in the last month or two and the motor is now seized. Balls.

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Harbor Freight motor time!

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Originally Posted by dan_pdx

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree there. Any single who's willing to make the effort to join a group in one of the other lines is welcome to it. By your logic, should we forbid two friends who are skiing together from separating and going into the singles line?

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The specific scenario Danno is responding to has a packed maze, a singles line on the left hand side. A skier skis up on the right, outside the maze, and ducks a rope to join a party already near the front of the line.

It’s for sure kind of a douche move, and way different than entering the corral at the end and finding a group to join as you make your way to the front. I don’t know why this is so difficult to understand.

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Originally Posted by east or bust

The specific scenario Danno is responding to has a packed maze, a singles line on the left hand side. A skier skis up on the right, outside the maze, and ducks a rope to join a party already near the front of the line.

It’s for sure kind of a douche move, and way different than entering the corral at the end and finding a group to join as you make your way to the front. I don’t know why this is so difficult to understand.

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Oh! In that case, I agree with Danno. It's fine to join a group as long as you enter the maze from the back, but ungentlemanly to duck a rope to join a group near the front of the line.

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why this is so difficult to understand.

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Because...internet

Style and local custom.

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Originally Posted by dan_pdx

Oh! In that case, I agree with Danno. It's fine to join a group as long as you enter the maze from the back, but ungentlemanly to duck a rope to join a group near the front of the line.

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Agree.

The shitfaced-drunk kid who wouldn't shut up and made no sense I had to ride up with today annoyed me.

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Originally Posted by dan_pdx

Oh! In that case, I agree with Danno. It's fine to join a group as long as you enter the maze from the back, but ungentlemanly to duck a rope to join a group near the front of the line.

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that's all I am saying. enter the maze through the singles line or not, join as a single with people next to you, all fine. Cutting to the front of the group line as a single when there is a singles line? No bueno.

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Originally Posted by old goat

Agree.

The shitfaced-drunk kid who wouldn't shut up and made no sense I had to ride up with today annoyed me.

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You didn't shove him off the chair?

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Originally Posted by dan_pdx

Oh! In that case, I agree with Danno. It's fine to join a group as long as you enter the maze from the back, but ungentlemanly to duck a rope to join a group near the front of the line.

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FTR, there was no rope ducking. I would never stoop that low (pun fully intended).

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Originally Posted by riser4

You didn't shove him off the chair?

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