Pretty much the whole US healthcare system is annoying (the structure, not the people). Every time I have to deal with it I yearn for what I had in Canada.
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Pretty much the whole US healthcare system is annoying (the structure, not the people). Every time I have to deal with it I yearn for what I had in Canada.
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I had somebody tell me just today that if you’re over 80 it’s ok to still say things like “colored people.”Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
I told her no…. No it isn’t. They should not say that ever.
And you know what? It was annoying.
Yeah - being old is no excuse for being a racist/homophobic moran.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
And then THIS just happened. FFS, America...Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
Court grants Sackler family immunity in exchange for $6 billion opioid settlement
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/30/busin...ity/index.html
An Appeals Court Gave the Sacklers Legal Immunity
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/31/h...y-opioids.html
Now THIS is some serious bullcrap. Those assholes get immunity and still walk away filthy rich. This. THIS right here is a hudge part of the problem. Big pharma = modern drug lords with the full backing of the US govt.
I think anyone under 100 should be called out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
Fuckers belong in a work camp. And this could get polyass in a hurry, because not all of our elected government supports this position. I'm from VT. Guess which senator I'm talking about. I think you would like him. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MontuckyFried
Lol. Not trying to make it PolyAss, just posted the same in the Opiod thread to better continue the conversation. As to your homey from VT, I'll give him one thing, he's one of the very few in our government who has been willing to call out Big Pharma on their bullshit. I particularly enjoyed his recent grilling of the Moderna CEO. Credit where credit's due!Quote:
Originally Posted by riser4
While I agree with you, we have no idea how our current beliefs are going to line up with social norms 50 years from now. Just realize you may very well be an idiot that is not self-aware when you are old.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
There’s no rule against changing your behavior as social norms change.Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
I’d say stuff 20 years ago that I’d be ashamed to say now. I expect I’ll feel the same way 20 years from now.
When I was in high school calling somebody a faggot was the go-to burn. Class was so fucking gay. That teacher is a retard.
None of that stuff is in my vocabulary anymore (admittedly, I still struggle with “retard” but my filter keeps me in line).
Also, today’s octogenarians were in their 40s in the 1980s. If they didn’t clean that shit out of their vocab in the entirety of the 70s and 80s they are bigoted assholes from way back, and not just doddering old fools.
I hope you're right, but it certainly seems like most people hit an age where they quit adapting/changing and lose self-awareness. Maybe that's early dementia?Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
And yeah, I'm so glad there weren't videos of every thing I said and every party I attended 30 years ago at age 18. I cringe at the videos teens put out now, that shit will haunt them forever.
Ya, I have a hard time filtering out retarded. Glad it's not just me. It absolutely should be filtered. I slip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
This, 100% (right down to struggling with "retard" but successfully filtering it out).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
I think maybe it’s because I don’t really know anybody, personally, who has downs or similar. Maybe an indicator for me being a different type of terrible.
Agreed. I came from an ass-backwards, hillbilly part of Michigan. I said shit when I was a teen that is embarrassing in today's context. And I listened to patently racist and homophobic shit from my old man.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
To do better over time really doesn't seem to be that hard.
I probably shouldn't be saying "hillbilly," should I? :D
STFU you cracker ass cracker!Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
I should have said I expect that some stuff I’m saying now won’t be appropriate in the future. But I hope that future me will change with the times.Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
I’ll give some leeway for dementia as far as not keeping up with the changing norms, less so if it’s just letting your bigoted views slip out unfiltered.
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SmoggyAlie...wi-max-1mb.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Danno
I’ll accept somebody with dementia with the same compassion and empathy as I’ll accept somebody struggling with gender or labels or a history of oppression. Imperfectly, to be sure, but they aren’t really all that different, just different struggles.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
The same way I’ll accept somebody who was raised on a steady diet of bigotry and small mindedness and Fox News. People is people and you can respect the person whether or not you appreciate or approve of all of their views and behavior.
Resisting any and all change is the hobgoblin of the weak mind.
Not sure I have a good response to that, other than that there’s a lot of space between accepting and shunning, and I will work within that space. Where exactly I end up depends on the person, the context, and the views being expressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
Shunning is creating an out group, and (to me) denotes encouraging others to disassociate. I don’t know if that’s a particularly healthy response, but it’s something that’s on my mind frequently enough. You can accept and respect somebody without spending time or engaging with them or allowing them to make the world worse for others. They’re different things. I think most just want to be seen and heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
That’s all something I poke at from time to time. My mind isn’t particularly settled on any of it. But to this very topic, I’ve been deeply wrong plenty of times about various things and I adjust and grow, and I do that best if the people in my life give me room and resources and tools to adjust and grow. If you take that away you just drive people into their weird corners and create divisions that will never be resolved.
There’re a lot of idiots that aren’t self aware that aren’t oldQuote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
Is okay to say that the timing on my truck is retarded? I need to advance it a few degrees
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If I came across some Proud Boys protesting a drag show, I’d absolutely encourage everyone to shun them, not accept them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
If it was my own grandfather expressing similar views in private, I’d treat it differently.
Now it just refers to Harley Davidson riders, so it's perfectly acceptable to continue use in that context. : )Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen