"Okay so we'll just wait a few minutes for others to join..."Quote:
Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark
Grinds my gears!
...and the one where the meeting ends early "I'll give you back some time in your day" like please this is not clever.
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"Okay so we'll just wait a few minutes for others to join..."Quote:
Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark
Grinds my gears!
...and the one where the meeting ends early "I'll give you back some time in your day" like please this is not clever.
I've mentioned before that there was a serial pisser on a weekly meeting for an account I covered a lot of years ago. Nobody ever fessed up and we never figured out who it was. We were all dialed in on actual phones, it was before web conferences where you can see who's mic is capturing sound. Guy took long pisses too. And, we never heard him wash his hands. Everyone was too polite or too shocked to call him out.
I run a weekly meeting and have to say the first one every damn time due to one or two of the bosses always being late. Grinds my gears to have to say it.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulster2626
The 2nd one hurts. My meetings usually run for 20-30 minutes when it’s scheduled for an hour. I always say “if there’s nothing left to go over then I’ll give you the rest of your hour back” :(
I say the second plenty, but not because I imagine it’s clever. Just trying to be polite and respectful and acknowledge that their time is a precious resource.
I say both of them when I am the host. Definitely don't think I am saying anything new or clever. But I am hosting meetings with very busy people that I do not supervise or have any authority over, so I need to wait to make sure everyone is on, and like mustonen says, I want to acknowledge that they are busy.
I'm just glad to know these stock phrases seem universal.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulster2626
Okay I will look at the second one differently. Thank you for making me a better person.
2nd one is dumb, just say, 'thanks everyone!' and end it. You don't own my time to give it back, it's not a favor -we just are done talking- and I don't need to be sucked up to and be told my time is valuable. Talk like a person and hang up, it's easy.
^i own their time when it’s my meeting. It’s why I don’t fuck around with superfluous discussion and quickly get back on topic when it starts getting off the rails.
Close with: Go and do likewise, gents. The money's out there. You pick it up, it's yours. You don't? I have no sympathy for you.
The best thing would be to include an agenda in the request - annoying when I get invites that just have vague titles. Then it starts "the reason we're here is to...."Quote:
Originally Posted by mcphee
Like, come on.
^my meeting is a process improvement meeting. People submit their ideas to me, I enter them into the system, invite them to the meeting to discuss their idea. I then immediately assign ownership of the idea to team members depending on category of idea. Owners implement the ideas or give reasons why it can’t or won’t be implemented. Every owner must provide an update weekly and have the ball rolling on the idea within 30 days.
Before I took over it was a total shitshow with the former team leads too scared to tell others that they’re way off base or crack the whip on the 30 day closure rate.
Previous team leaders were aspiring ladder climbers. I sunk my career aspirations years ago so I have nothing to lose. Lol
I worked for a guy that gave us blanket permission to skip any meeting that didn’t have an agenda. His other suggestion was to provide your own agenda if there wasn’t one. I’ve used that trick a few times to hijack invites and get shit resolved.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulster2626
It was really amusing the day he forgot to send out an agenda for a staff meeting. A colleague put together a great agenda full of useful and not so useful topics. To his credit, the boss went along with the new agenda and it was a productive meeting.
I agree: "does anyone have anything else? 3, 2, 1...okay then, thanks everyone!"Quote:
Originally Posted by muted reborn
Article in the Seattle Times today:
Amazon relies on ‘serendipity’ for office return; employees want data
https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...ees-want-data/
This seems pretty offensive to me for a company that claims to be devoted to making decisions that are data-driven.Quote:
Adam Selipsky, head of Amazon’s cloud computing business, wouldn’t give employees any data to back up the decision to require workers to come back to the office.
But he did have some stories to share, according to an Amazon Web Services employee who attended the all-hands meeting.
A discussion with a quantum computing professor in Tel Aviv, Israel, sparked a second, impromptu meeting with a different group of employees, Selipsky said at the all-hands. Though that technology lesson may not have changed those workers’ lives, Selipsky continued, it still exemplifies “the serendipity” of a return to the office.
Over the course of the year, “just think about … the serendipitous things that can happen,” Selipsky said, according to a transcript of the meeting shared with The Seattle Times by the Virginia-based AWS employee and later by Amazon.
“Serendipity” seemed to be the crux of Selipsky’s argument for a return-to-office mandate. “Actual data … it’s very hard to come by,” he said, especially “any data that I think would stand scrutiny.”
For some Amazon employees, “serendipity” isn’t enough. Workers who have asked the company to share data have been provided anecdotes and a consistent trope that innovation is more likely to happen in person.
Making employees come to the office three days per week isn't exactly a harsh demand, but I agree with them that the company's line is pretty weak.
Sounds sexist...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
:fmicon:
The last page or two makes me glad to be retired.
Thanks
Have a weekly call with a bank (rhymes with Bells Cargo) that is still a fucking conference call. They actually said “we don’t know how to use Teams.”
There’s about 10 people on the call and the first five minutes of every call is “who called in please?”, “now who are we missing?” and “should we wait for so and so?” The agenda has been pretty light lately so that’s half the call.
The purpose of the calls is to go over the preparation for an upcoming HUD loan closing, which involves drafting and reviewing a shit-ton of documents. Which would be a helluva lot easier if everyone could actually see the document being discussed.
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I prefer WebEx over Teams over Zoom. We use Teams, however we had WebEx for a while. It is really nice to be able to screenshare AND paste info into a chat. Teams has an advantage there because it's also an instant messenger. Butt is Microsoft so it will never ever be my favorite.
Typing what I typed made me want to quit!Quote:
Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper
We have to come in 2 days a week now. Every department has scheduled days - ours was MON & WED. The reason is "to foster collaboration." Problem is, in my 15+ years of working here I have seen countless great ideas pop up between group members. They are documented, presented, and then.... nothing. Nothing ever happens. Nobody has time to implement this stuff, since the company is run so thin on workers under the guise of being 'agile.'Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
Anyway long story short - we moved one of our days from MON to TUE because the place is essentially empty and we can get more work done. Ironically it's more like our home environments. We do, however, go back to a MON in-office day on the weeks where a holiday falls on that day. Our manager is pretty cool.
I can't wait. Freedom 56 in like, oh, 12 years. People at work always say things like "But what will you DO with your time???" and I'm like "yo I can come up with a loooooong list of semi-interesting things to do, and coming in here to work is right near the bottom, just above licking public toilet seats to see what germs I can catch."Quote:
Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper
People who attach their identity to some office job are missing out on life, imo.
Dew points over, say, 70f annoy tf out of me. Just took dog out, was swamp thick at 11pm, I looked it up, dew point is 80! That means at 11 AT NIGHT, it’s ~85 F but *feels like* 104
When I'm in the office it seems like half the people are attending virtual meetings using a headset, so not exactly sure what the point is. I can do that at home without wasting time and gas.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulster2626
Yeah, no kidding. I'm rarely bored when I'm not working. I'm bored while working all the time. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by paulster2626
Middle management has to justify their jobs micro managing everything, and CEOs have to justify their rent bills.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
^^^that seems to be all it is in my experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supermoon
yes men
especially when you work with one and have to satisfy all the unrealistic stupid shit they told a client
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After not really hearing them for probably a decade, I'm all of a sudden hearing idiots driving around again with those farty car exhausts. Not sure if I just happen to have a single moran in the neighborhood or it's a general trend because the fucking things are so loud you can hear them from about a mile away.
Hey old goat, here’s a line up of about 10 cars I passed at once about a week ago:
Attachment 468470
Overuse of the word “slammed” in the headlines. Also, any other kind of click bait is annoying AF.
I have an LG dryer that just decides when things are "dry". And it seemingly cannot be bypassed. Blankets and loads of towels often have to be started 5 plus times. And that's after selecting a timed dry cycle and not the auto cycle. I wanted a speed queen but it wouldn't fit through the basement door. Fuck that dryer.
I have an LG dryer too - I only seem to get unfinished drying when using the sensor (humidity sensor?) and things like a big load of towels.Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
Is the exhaust duct clear?
My frigidaire has a leak from some defroster drain on the ceiling of the fridge. Supposedly the fix is yo defrost to get rid of the ice plug. The leak is just minimal enough to aggravate and have to wipe the top tray in the morning but not so bad I’m thrilled about about a half day defrosting project
The airflow outside seems good, maybe I need a deeper investigation?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
Last winter, I pulled the dryer out away from the wall and disconnected the exhaust hose to clean in there -- it hadn't been removed and cleaned since I installed it, about 8 years earlier. The lint wasn't too bad... but there was a desiccated corpse of a squirrel in there too. Yuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
I'm going to pull the dryer and clean out that exhaust more frequently now.
If you can, somehow take a look down the exhaust duct with a flashlight. Some dryers have a “plugged duct” warning light. But, towels are a big lift if that’s all that’s in the load.
Dryer vent cleaning is no joke. We just replaced a portion of the vent pipe that was completely full of loose material. It should scare every last one of you.
Fuck LG dryers. Tired of my wife’s complaining. But she’s right.
And fuck their front loaders as well. It smells like a subway piss wet dog combination.
Electric leaf blower from the inside out. Works a treat. Our LG will tell you when the vent is blocked. I'll usually bump the "Dry Level" button once or twice before I start an automatic cycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
Is cleaning dryer vents as simple as sticking shop vac hose in there or is there more to it?